SHOCKING: Police Pepper Spray Child And Fox News Thinks It's Justified!

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
reply to post by donkeystyle

 

I'm sorry, but I have to draw the line. The kid is about what, 60 lb's? Do we not have cops that could disarm a 60 LB kid, or at least use about 100 other ways to difuse the situation?

they should fire those policemen..if they cannot grab and hold onto a 8 year old boy, they are unfit for any police duty. i guess if he was 18, they would have just shot him.

maybe they are limited to 5 year olds, anyone older than that, a weapon is needed.

Supppose that this child instead of attacking the teacher or police officer attacked a calssmate. Suppose that this classmate was your child. Suppose your child was hurt by a weapon weilding child while others sat and watched or tried to talk him down. Would you feel the same way?

Suppose that this child grows up and becomes the leader of some foreign country. He weilds a weapon of mass destruction. Do you talk him out of it. Yes violence may beget violence but for some that is what it takes to get your point across.

By the way I personally know some 8yr olds that could well do some damage to someone trying to restrain them and not harm them. It is unfortunate that it ever came to this. But ultimately the child must become responsible for his actions. The issues today seem to be a lack of proper discipline on all parts.

Actions such as this should not be tolerated in the school system, but parents don't want to take resposibility for their children. The school only wants the federal money, and the teachers hands are tied from doing anything.
The children get the bad end. Children such as these should be forced out of the system for the safety of the other children. It just isn't going to happen. how can we expect any child to learn in such an environment? No wonder we are failing fast as a country.

The really sad thing is all those standing up for a child that may have committed a felony and at least a high level misdemeanor. These are the same people that will set a criminal free for a first offense and then cry twhen he commits a crime against them.

Remember his next violent outburst may be against you or your child. Who will you call then?

reply to post by brizellious


My entire post described why this is a tragedy and why violence should never have been necessary. How you have interpereted that I am justifying any sort of violence is simply astounding. That is NOT what I said in any way, shape or form and goes against the entire purpose of my post. I understand you disagree with what went on, I do as well. Your attack on my post was off base because I said nothing you claim I did.

Anyways... that's really neither here nor there. In a less verbose fashion I'll simply state that this was a very complex situation that happened due to poor planning and a tremendous failure on the part of the parents and school administrators.

reply to post by Flying Sorcerer


The cops could of definitely found some unharmful way to calm the kid down. But i guess its just easier for them to pepper spray people or taser them.

Are there any men left in our society?

One line from my mother always scared the hell out of me: "Just wait 'till your dad gets home."

I understand that people get divorced, but there has to be a disciplinary figure in a child's life.

In a society, you will be held responsible for your actions. This must be learned early in life, and unfortunately this seems to be getting lost in translation as it pertains to cases like this.

reply to post by Djarums


Your right im sorry, I was really angered by this news its rattles me to the core to think what the world is coming to and i was picking on a line when your whole post was valid. I was acting the fool and was typing before thinking sorry. No hard feelings?

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


I rarely agree with FOX on anything, but after watching the video it sounds like this little # had it coming. The parents need to try beating this kids butt when he pulls stuff like this and maybe he'll learn to respect people in authority postions.

I'm sick to death of hearing about time-outs and sending kids to their rooms. What exactly is this supposed to teach the child? If you're bad we'll let you take a break? Idiocy. I was spanked when I was kid and F'd up, my 15 year old got the same and he is well behaved and well mannered. Now I have a 5 year old, guess what happens when he's bad. If parents would impose themselves as THE authority figure in the parent/child relationship instead of coddeling them, maybe society wouldn't be where it is today.

My heros, the cops, at the finest once again...lol...Scared of a 8 yr old boy weighing 80 lbs. and 4 feet tall....Boy o boy, are the cops becoming Feminized too? I'll be sure to call them if my 11 month old gets out of hand..Hope they have plenty of pepper spray....Their going to need it when they spray my child... Some People in this world have turned to $hit in my opinion...Look out, there's a 1/2 in. bug behind the desk, it weighs 2/3 of an ounce..get ready men...Deploy, deploy, deploy your pepper spray......we got that sucka !!!

America, home of the unfree and the sprayed...in more ways than one....

reply to post by Djarums


Great post DJ, thanks for contributing to the thread!

Originally posted by donkeystyle
reply to post by v1rtu0s0

 

They called the cops on this kid twice before.


I think some hard line punishment might do this kid a world of good. pepper spraying is painful and also doesn't leave any lasting damage, so it would be a good lesson. strapping someone with a belt would be worse, it could break bones and cause hemmoraging.


Well, 99.99% of kids will never ever need to be pepper sprayed, and should never be. However if there is a one in a million kid that is so bad tempered, that the cops have to be called on him 3 times, perhaps its necessary.

Of course, i wasn't there, im just saying if things were bad enough, like the kid using weapons for example. be it knives or guns or throwing a chair at his teachers or, whatever.

My 2 cents.

edit on 5-4-2011 by donkeystyle because: (no reason given)

YEAH show him how the worlds works and you get a 20 year old violent idiot, - read my signature!

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


did you watch the video or did you post it on here quickly without checking it out

This is one of many aspects of why we as a civilization is going to an end sooner than we anticipate.

reply to post by the_0bserver85


Or at least the United States, but yes, I completely agree.

reply to post by brizellious


No hard feelings

Admittedly it is a very heated topic and certainly one that deserves our attention and opinions!

I read an article on this yesterday where the mom, when she arrived at the school, said that he probably deserved the pepper spray. They even quoted the kid as saying tha he deserved it and that all he could think about was cutting someone.

Now the mom is saying "my baby, my poor, poor baby!"

If the mom says he probably deserved it, then I have to agree with her.

Personally if this was my kid, I would slip the officers a 20 spot, take my kid home and make him wish the cops was still around.

reply to post by Becoming


Again, a grown up trained police officer should be able to rely on their verbal skills rather than pepper spray a 60 LB kid.

I know there are some big strong police officers out there. Is there not a protocol out there to deal with this? Do they know peppy spray can be very damaging to a developing childs eyes?

So the kid is crazy, great, then get him a professional evaluation... that's what he deserves--not pepper spray.

As a grandparent of a child who had anger issues,the well you should use your verbal skills don't cut it,you would not believe how strong a child is when they are going through a violent rage episode,i for one have been scratched,kicked and had hard things throw in my face,and at that time i would have gladly had a police officer shock my grandchild back into reality,and my granchild is a girl.I would much rather my grandchild be spray with pepper spray than see her in prison later on for killing someone which i fear this kid might end up doing

I've just talk to my dad about this topic today......know how he responds......"that cop still alive and healthy?"

Who really thinks pepper spraying this kid is going to teach him some valuable lesson?

If anything it's going to make him more likely to cut down a few cops himself when he's of capable age.

Kid says himself it's never going away and that his anger things are just who he is? who has taught him this? so when he grows up and has a girlfriend she should just expect violent outbursts? Kids aren't just born like this it's a violent program he has learned from people ...someone...not from t.v or video games he has witnessed someone else get what they wanted from violent tantrums. As far as the pepper spray??? what sort of world do we live in when cops r probably too scared to touch a kid for fear of accusations. I am disturbed by the causal approach of his mother she looked almost proud of him. The fact is his parents are obviously not raising a citizen who can control himself and have seen a chance to "play victim" either we give the cops and teachers the right to "touch" our kids to restrain them or we be okay with this sort of solution. the saddest thing is that my kids will have to pick partners from a generation of victimised offenders ...sad