Republican Budget Plan to Eliminate National Debt

It's a scam, like always. Vote for it, you will like it. shhhhhhhhh ,relax it's ok, let it happen. OK, it's normal. Be scared , thats why oil prices are going up. supposedly. ,but shhhhhhhhhhh, relax while the elites suck you dry AMERICA. You won't do a thing, i know you won't.

Just more fluff to make people think they are doing something. The defense budget is a trillion a year, half of that spent on the wars. They could cut that in half by bringing troops home from around the world and still keep the Iraq and Afghan wars going. it won't happen though. if they cut all entitlements right now it would be a drop in the bucket.

The debt can't be paid off because the money does not exist. They borrow new money in to existence just to pay the interest which in turn increases the debt further. It is total fiscal insanity and economic suicide for us. The architects of the system new this when they created it. But they are at the top of the pyramid and will get all the wealth stolen from us. We are almost at the end of the life cycle of the fiat monetary system. Get prepared there is no way out of this without a lot of pain and it is coming!

This is just more dog and pony show to keep the sheeple on the hook till it all crashes.

Take the +70 million baby boomers and seize their assets. Then send them to Mexico.

No more National Debt.

Socialism always fails.

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Are you that BLIND?

Wisconsin is a JOKE thanks to Scott Walker.

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Ask the folks in Sweden if socialism fails.

Seriously, should you all be at Red State or something?

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Conservatives will not cut the defense budget because it is their bread and butter.

They're all a bunch of stinking hypocrites.

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The peanut gallery will not bother to consider LOGIC or FACTS in their arguments.

Umm, HELLO?

If you look at your paycheck, you will see a tax for Social Security.

Well, DUH!

Where do you think Social Security comes from? It doesn't grow on trees!

This site makes me laugh sometimes.

Originally posted by The Sword
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Conservatives will not cut the defense budget because it is their bread and butter.

They're all a bunch of stinking hypocrites.

AGREED. I recently started a thread House votes to let Pentagon sponsor NASCAR races and you should have seen the replies. The Extreme Right warmongers had NO PROBLEM allowing the Army to waste spend $7 Million per year sponsoring a car. Notwithstanding the sponsorship by other branches. It passed in a 251 to 148 vote. Fiscally conservative indeed.

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Wisconsin is way better then what it was because of Scott. The left news has blowin the anger here way worse then what is really is. Repubs are the majority not the dems. over 60% of people in wisconsin favor Scott Walker right now.

neither side wants the government to continue.
both sides want it shut down.
all this is a dog and pony show
to get the timing right for the
fallout.

the date is April 16th, 17th or 18th
or til the personal checks clear the banks.
by this time most people have already
filed their personal income taxes
and paid the government. Corporations
will file an extension til August to avoid
paying. Meanwhile the gov has sucked
the populace dry one last time before
the collapse of the system altogether.

the Gov shutdown will be used as the
excuse why you didn't get your refund,
but it will have no effect of them cashing
and depositing your tax payment to them.

suckers !!!!

Uh oh, reducing debt, there it is!

Look out poor people, they're cutting healthcare.

Originally posted by Nephalim
Uh oh, reducing debt, there it is!

Look out poor people, they're cutting healthcare.

go ahead and let them cut out Medicaid
and food stamps and see what happens
when they don't get their checks at the
beginning of the month.

Watts Riots multiplied by 10,000 cities
would be my guess.

the assertion that if we cut defense spending, we would be speaking russian or chinese, is ludicrous and downright silly.

can you really justify current ops in iraq, afghanistan, and libya? you don't have to be left-ist to oppose war profiteering... remember when "right" meant "conservative"? remember when non-intervention was the name of the game?
consider these questions rhetorical

Originally posted by badgerman24
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Wisconsin is way better then what it was because of Scott.

If it's not too much to ask, would you mind summing up, specifically, how?

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The republicans steadfastly refuse to talk about cutting military adventurism and subsidies to big business like farming. This is why I get so mad at them. It seems that they think there are no possibilities for cutting outside of areas which hurt ordinary people. It seems that, under no circumstances, will they even acknowledge the possibility of cutting elsewhere. No matter what big business is always safe. Make them talk about the immunity they always give to business entities when considering cuts. That's what I'd like to hear them address. But watch out for clever dodges in response.

C'mon Wisconsin. Make the republicans cut their buddies too and not just we little folk.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Nephalim
Uh oh, reducing debt, there it is!

Look out poor people, they're cutting healthcare.

go ahead and let them cut out Medicaid
and food stamps and see what happens
when they don't get their checks at the
beginning of the month.

Watts Riots multiplied by 10,000 cities
would be my guess.

Do you agree with the proposal to change Medicaid to block grants to the states? It seems that the states are better able to manage it at their level. Riots for what? I know lots of people who were expected to take 5,10 or 15% pay cuts over the past few years in order for companies to survive and for them to remain employed. The "that's my money" mentality has to change. Contribute something beneficial to society for a set number of years, than I have no problem with anyone accessing those benefits...up to a point. When I owned rental properties, almost every one of my tenants collected some form of government assistence....section-8, welfare, food stamps, SSI, SSDI, etc. God forbid they had to pay $100 a month towards their rent, I'd be portrayed as the bad guy.

If anyone is serious about the national debt, why not tie the pay of the house and senate members to it.

If the debt goes up , their pay goes down.

One quick way to save some money would be to "lay off" the most unproductive employees of the government -- the congress!

As for the "entitlement" programs - ie- social security & medic aid.

Why don't we just include the congressional health plans into these programs. This way we can see in just who's interest "killing these" will benefit the budget.

Oh, I know these things will never happen. The same people who would have to change the system are the ones who currently benefit the most from the system.

Originally posted by Unit541
Hogwash. Period. There is no "eliminating" the national debt. He says it's going to "peak" at 74.5% of the GDP. Uh, the debt surpassed 100% of our GDP over a year ago, and is still growing at over 4 billion a day, while the GDP shrinks.

The national debt is not something that can ever be eliminated. Even if every American were taxed at 100%, we'd still not be able to make even the interest payments. Laughable at best.

So your plan is to do nothing about it and keep on spending?

This budget just formalizes Corporate rule in the USA.

If you are disabled, unemployed, impovershed, or just plain old....die already. You don't turn a profit.

People now 54 and younger wouldn't get to go into the same Medicare program as their parents and grandparents upon retirement. Instead, they would get a voucher-style federal payment to purchase coverage from a choice of regulated private plans.

Poor people would no longer have a right under federal law to get health care through Medicaid. Instead, Washington would send each state a lump sum to spend on medical care, nursing homes and other health services for the poor and disabled. In an economic downturn, a state hurting for cash might decide to stop accepting new applications for Medicaid.

www.npr.org...

Get it? Medicaid would no longer pay the medical bills of the elderly...they would simply be given a voucher for an fixed amount that the government decides it feels comfortable paying. If that voucher doesn't cover the bills...then go broke or die or preferrably both...which is certain to be the outcome with a private healthcare system with rocketing costs that the GOP would like to leave alone entirely.

Old? Poor? Unemployed? Uninsured?...Tough S*&^...you aren't buying new TVs or working for a corporation...please die quickly.

Who I really feel sorry for is the folks 54 or younger that have paid their hard earned money into Medicaid their entire lives under the agreement that one day they would not go broke paying medical bills in old age...The GOP is now saying... we need your money, we will never give it back, we don't care what was promised when we took your money for the past 40 years.....essentially, we are robbing you, ef off.

Whatever happens...don't close any loopholes for corporations..Just kill the poor and elderly.

GOP equals USA Incorporated.

GE made $14.2 billion in worldwide profits last year. Its U.S. corporate tax bill? Zero
posted on March 25, 2011, at 3:40 PM

The largest corporation in America paid precisely zero dollars in taxes to the government last year. Despite making $14.2 billion in profits, General Electric managed to exploit legal loopholes and tax breaks to avoid paying any corporate tax in the U.S.,

Oh yah, did I mention they also want to lower the tax rate for top earners and corporations?

- Begins significant tax reform, cutting corporate rate and top individual rate from 35% to 25%

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com... cnn_politicalticker+(Blog%3A+Political+Ticker)

Seriously people...wake the ef up...Everyone...You are watching the USA being looted right before your eyes.

You might hate Obama, Democrats, Liberals...whatever...but that doesn't mean you need to sit silently while the opposing team loots a country. That is precisely what the Koch brothers et al are counting on.

Originally posted by Pervius
Take the +70 million baby boomers and seize their assets. Then send them to Mexico.

No more National Debt.

That is an accurate summary of the GOP plan....though I think they are expecting them to simply die rather than go to Mexico.