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What we are ALL about to face..

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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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Well, I was looking around for some explanations but I haven't found any. It concerns revelations and esp. Chapter 8. ok..first, I believe revelations is a mysterious book that confuses many because of the symbolism and jewish tradition/experiences fused into it. But there is this little part that stands out and defies every explanation symbolically or metaphorically which actuallyu leaves one to conclude that this is indeed a coming physical event which shall be witnessed by us in the vantage point of earth such as John the revelator did witness.


see:
King James Version: Revelation Chapter 8:1-13
1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!


My take:
Seven ( the number seven is a spiritual number that symbolizes end,complete,finish, i.e in the spiritual sense. If you juxtapose that with the first and second verse, you understand it clearly that the Angels,trumpets and the seal were all perfect in rhythm and if there was to be a convergence, it will happen NOW, where the 7th seal,the 7 trumpets, the 7 angels converge. The description goes on to paint a picture of an Angel who does facilitate the prayer of the saints before God and as we look at verse 5, thear appears as a result of the action of the Altar fire having been flung by the Angel, there are three incidences that happen, first voices ( I do not understand ..greek states ; kai fwnai kai astrapai kai seismoV meaning voice,lightning and earthquake which would indicate a physical manifestation as the root word seismov actually means

a shaking, a commotion
a tempest
an earthquake


..then lightning=astrapai then earthquake in that order. Correct me if I am wrong but this is Physical!

After this, we are taken through the blowing of the trumpets and the first one brings down hail and fire mixed with blood. this word 'blood' could mean, 1) blood 1a) of man or animals 1b) refers to the seat of life 1c) of those things that resemble blood, grape juice 2) blood shed, to be shed by violence, slay, murder of uncertain derivation; blood, literally (of men or animals), figuratively (the juice of grapes) or specially (the atoning blood of Christ); by implication, bloodshed, also kindred:-blood. So if we are to to say blood, what would that mean? It would mean that blood in its real form came down from up, that may make sense since it reads "..For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. Leviticus 17:11. Blood was poured on the altar and the Angel who picked up the censur with the fire actually did scoop it from the altar. Should we then go with the flow that this blood was meant to atone the saints of their sins which the Angel was now in fact doing? God answering their prayers in effect. The other meaning could be a reddish hue to something and in this case your guess is as good as mine. It further explains the fact that trees and green grass actually did get burn’t up. Again In my opinion, this is a celestial event that is beginning. The Hail being the fore-runner..lets call it a meteor shower.

When the second Angel does sound his trumpet, a ‘Mountain’ burning with fire is cast into the sea meaning this meteor hit the ocean which as we are explained to later, turns the color of the ocean to red, and there are mass die offs of sea creatures including destruction of ships which were at sea during that time. Again this comes directly after the meteor shower when we have Impact! When the third trumpet is blown, there is a Star that pollutes the waters yet again..this is the infamous Wormwood. This Star does not butn violently like the mountain but rather burns ‘according to another translation ‘as if fed from oil’ meaning it had a glow of some sort. Since people do not drink sea water, they were not affected during the first impact, it is during the Wormwood event that people start dying because of the polluted water. Could it be a comet? Some are known to have cyanide (excerpt:After a two-and-a-half-year journey across the solar system, the US space probe Deep Impact has swung by comet Hartley 2 for an up-close study of its icy, volatile surface.
The probe came within 700km of the peanut-shaped comet, which has "poison geyers" that pump deadly cyanide gas into space..) Source news.ninemsn.com.au...

Its like a calendar of events..first a meteor impact, then after some unspecified time..a comet impact.
The Sun is not spared either because as we read on we get to see that our good ol’ Sol is Hit ! The moon too and this does not spare the entire cosmos as it is explained that a third of the stars seem to disappear and this seems to be a cosmic event since we loose a third of the day and /or a third of the night depending on where you are geographically. The day and night is a by product of earth’s rotation so what does that tell you? verse 13 continues on to say that you haven’t seen anything yet..if you thought this was bad..wait..there is worse..its just starting !



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Sorry scripture is my Kryptonite.

2nd



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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I think your post goes a long way toward explaining Lucifer's motives in writing the Bible.
Jesus came along and said that churches, governments and institutions are corrupt and that we should turn away from them. He taught that we are the Sons of God and that God exists inside and around us. He told us that we don't have to go to anyone else for salvation. Pointing toward his chest, using himself as an example and using "I" in the way in which we would all use "I" to refer to ourselves, he said "I am the way." He told us that each of us has a bridge to God in our hearts and that asking a church or a government to show you the way is foolishness. He said not to build a church and he said that he was against religion.
So what'd the devil do?
Built a church and started a religion. Took His Word and sullied it. Filtered it through the mouths and minds of greedy, evil, mortal men and turned it into just another system of control and oppression. He put it in power, gave it governments and civilizations to eat and watched it grow into a bloated, fractured, spirit-crushing giant. He took the teachings of Jesus and turned them into exactly what Jesus was preaching against.
So here we are, 2,000 years later. You've invested a decent amount of time, effort and faith into this post, yet it says absolutely nothing. What's your point? that the Bible says some stuff? There isn't anything in your post to suggest that the fifth and sixth angels have blown their horns, let alone the seventh is about to. The bible is left ambiguous and vague for a reason. Lucifer wants us all to have our own ideas about what it says and to argue over who has the real Truth. Either way, you're denying that the only Truth is God, which is an affront. Put the book down, open your heart, listen to your spirit and fill your soul with the Real Love that's all around you!
The Abrahamic God is false. LOVE is GOD.



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Yeah the good book can be just that as long as you only use it as a guide.
It is when folks try to understand every point of it that things get sketchy.
I try not to rely on these texts, as they are all authored by man.



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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verse 13 continues on to say that you haven’t seen anything yet..if you thought this was bad..wait..there is worse..its just starting


And to think this piece of fiction is the most printed book of all time...





As to the prediction...see the emoticon above. ^



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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The book was written by the Illuminati.

I think it is good to look at the book from a different point of view...not just its for religion alone...

There is lots of hints and stuff in there if you know what to look for..

I for one am not a christian, but the book does have useful information in it...but I'm sure people already knew that...

The Illuminati like to put stuff in plain sight, as to rub it in ignorant peoples faces...like the hospital logos for instance....
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posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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am a believer and try to understand ways of the supreme creator. the thread is more of science and the reason i put it this way is to keep it in the source context.



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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That's the thing, i am christian by no stretch of the mind but i have studied and grew up baptist, the hellfire and brimstone sort.
My mother was just like cathy bates was in water boy.
If you are a believer try not to look too deep into the book as it will become your obsession, and thou shalt have no other...well you know.
And if you seek to find clues of the future, then i would say....
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Just believe if you do and be a good person, beyond that your on good ground.
I understand it is a christian belief to teach and spread the good word, just don't butt your head on too many walls as some people will never change.
Like i said i'm not a christian but i think the book as well as many other holy books are an excellent "guide" to live by.
All of the texts whether true and real or not, have been bastardized by man.
And man inherently is greedy.
Some folks just suppress it better than others.
Hope it helps.



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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I predict we are ALL about to face a mirror in the next 24 hours.



posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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there will be a meteor shower soon right? it's kind of weird how i've seen a lot of people predict a meteor will hit earth when the next meteor shower happens.



posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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If the only tool in your kit is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.

I was actually hoping that someone would see the obvious in this thread, that is;

1) I am not making any predictions.
2) Am not preaching
3)Any text here can be verified and whether Illuminati or a work of fiction, its not for me to say.


The whole idea about giving these details is to think of the possibility of these events. The descriptions fit with what we are learning about the earth regarding 'Tunguska like' events and the myriad of comets that do come our way. The observations made in this text is what you can call , the expected course of events since, if an earthquake can affect the tilt of the earth,


Kitagawa said Friday's magnitude-8.8 earthquake was close in size to the 2004 earthquake off Sumatra that generated the huge Indian Ocean tsunami. Bloomberg News on Saturday reported an Italian geological institute as saying Japan's strongest earthquake probably shifted the Earth's axis by about 10 cm.


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the logic is this.. if a quake can do that, what of a meteor /comet impact? Can it actually shift the earth in a way that we experience less of a day than we do now. That a day becomes 4hours and the night 4 hours? And of the moon, it has been hit before..


It's not just Earth. In 1178 our Moon was hit by an asteroid creating a 120,000 megaton explosion (about six times the force of Earth's entire atomic arsenal). The collision dug a 20 km (12 mile) crater. This strike was recorded by a monk in Canterbury, England. We are extremely lucky it didn't hit us. The Moon is a smaller target and has much less gravity to attract an impactor. If a 120,000 megaton blast had hit the Earth our history would have been dramatically different. We're just lucky that one hit the Moon instead.


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The Sun also does get hit, so waht is new? what is so utterly repulsive that it blinds you Science? I believe we can have a decent conversation without running each other over.. but now I know. I wonder if Nostradamus or some other Mayan spiritist text would have this information..how would it be treated?



posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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Don't be discouraged. There are none so blind then those who refuse to see. You've absolutly shown how easily
things can be seen to apply here. How this book with so many miracles surrounding it. Including the fact that it is even here, for us to read. An absolute masterpiece of ancient literature. It's validity is the only reason any one could have to mock it.

SnF



posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by kassych
If the only tool in your kit is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.

I was actually hoping that someone would see the obvious in this thread, that is;

1) I am not making any predictions.
2) Am not preaching
3)Any text here can be verified and whether Illuminati or a work of fiction, its not for me to say.


The whole idea about giving these details is to think of the possibility of these events. The descriptions fit with what we are learning about the earth regarding 'Tunguska like' events and the myriad of comets that do come our way. The observations made in this text is what you can call , the expected course of events since, if an earthquake can affect the tilt of the earth,


Kitagawa said Friday's magnitude-8.8 earthquake was close in size to the 2004 earthquake off Sumatra that generated the huge Indian Ocean tsunami. Bloomberg News on Saturday reported an Italian geological institute as saying Japan's strongest earthquake probably shifted the Earth's axis by about 10 cm.


link

the logic is this.. if a quake can do that, what of a meteor /comet impact? Can it actually shift the earth in a way that we experience less of a day than we do now. That a day becomes 4hours and the night 4 hours? And of the moon, it has been hit before..


It's not just Earth. In 1178 our Moon was hit by an asteroid creating a 120,000 megaton explosion (about six times the force of Earth's entire atomic arsenal). The collision dug a 20 km (12 mile) crater. This strike was recorded by a monk in Canterbury, England. We are extremely lucky it didn't hit us. The Moon is a smaller target and has much less gravity to attract an impactor. If a 120,000 megaton blast had hit the Earth our history would have been dramatically different. We're just lucky that one hit the Moon instead.


source

The Sun also does get hit, so waht is new? what is so utterly repulsive that it blinds you Science? I believe we can have a decent conversation without running each other over.. but now I know. I wonder if Nostradamus or some other Mayan spiritist text would have this information..how would it be treated?



Well I really enjoyed it, and I too am one that really gets into prophecy,especially when you are seeing it being fullfilled before your very eyes.

on your last question about the info and how it would be treated , there would be three groups of people,
the 1st group would at least discuss it without throwing flames at the author,the next would eat it up, and the last
group, due to their fear it may be true will still call it bs hoping that will make it go away.

BTW read hosea 4 sometime regarding all of the massive animal deaths that were meant to be a sign to Israel, Isaiah19 talks exactly about what happened in egypt.
In palms83 we hear of a confederation of Arab nations, with intent towards Israel in the very last days with the first nation's leader speaking the same words that Ahmadinejad the leader of Iran just spoke a few months ago .

look up brother/sister your redemption draweth nigh.
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posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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I have to agree with you brother (or sister)

Anytime someone tells you they are not doing someting you better believe your sweet ass they are doing exactly that or worse!

The only unknown is the level of degree

Peace!



posted on Apr, 6 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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19 Globalism: www.raptureready.com...
Economic hardship in Europe has hurt globalism cause.
20 Tribulation Temple
Sixty-four percent of Israelis want to rebuilding the Temple
21 Anti-Semitism:
The lack of activity has downgraded this category.
24 Persia (Iran):
President Bush warned that Iran is seeking to produce nuclear
weapons.
26 Nuclear Nations
France to reduce nuclear warheads by one third.
27 Global Turmoil:
Strife in the Middle East has maxed out this category.
28 Arms Proliferation:
Tight budgets are forcing several nations to cut their
military spending.
29 Liberalism
The Democrats suffer huge loss that cost them control of
the House of Representatives.
30 The Peace Process:
Israel and the Palestinians are not talking to each other.
31 Kings of the East
China is moving to make the Yuan a global reserve currency.
33 Beast Government
Europe is facing one of its worst economic crisis.
34 The Antichrist:
The EU now has President. This office could be a
precursor to the AC.
35 Date Settings:
There is a huge increase in date setting activity.
36 Volcanoes:
The lack of activity has downgraded this category.
37 Earthquakes:
A powerful quake strikes Japan.
38 Wild Weather:
A massive cold wave sweeps over Europe.
41 Drought
A drought in Russia has pushed up grain prices.
43 Climate:
Record cold temps put the freeze on global warming hype.
44 Food Supply
The stock of grain is at a 16 year low.
45 Floods
Heavy flooding in South America and Europe.


Context Correlation- (2011)
As they still went on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire parted the two of them, and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.2 Kings 2:11

Therefore God sends upon them a misleading influence, a working of error and a strong delusion to make them believe what is false, 2 Thessalonians 2:11


Context Correlation- Warning... GREAT JAPAN EARTHQUAKE AND NUCLEAR EVENT 3/11
.
Revelation 3:11 I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one may rob you and deprive you of your crown.

25And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars; and upon the earth [there will be] distress (trouble and anguish) of nations in bewilderment and perplexity [ without resources, left wanting, embarrassed, in doubt, not knowing which way to turn] at the roaring ([h]the echo) of the tossing of the sea,

26Men swooning away or expiring with fear and dread and apprehension and expectation of the things that are coming on the world; for the [very] powers of the heavens will be shaken and caused to totter.

27And then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with great (transcendent and overwhelming) power and [all His kingly] glory (majesty and splendor).

28Now when these things begin to occur, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption (deliverance) is drawing near. Luke 21:25-28




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