Question for the Democrats.

Why is it that just because some one disagrees with Obama, you automatically throw the race card? I have dealt with this S&^T from the middle of 2008 until now. The only things you guys offer as a defense is either "You're just a inbred, backwoods, racist", or we get everything is Bush's fault. That is very weak, and luckily for yourselves, no one in teh main stream media will call you out for it, since they are on your team. Well, chums, this new war, that you guys hate so much, is OBAMA's war, and where are your protesters at now? Cindy Sheehan, where are you???
What about the debt our country is experiencing now? And this idiot actually wants to be re-elected, and he is going to raise a BILLION (1,000,000,000.00) DOLLARS for his campaign. Because he didn't destroy this country enough the first time around. Cant blame Bush for this mess anymore, Obama owns it. Whoever voted for him owns it now. It is time for you guys to accept it.
NOBAMA in 2012!!!!!

Dont worry, many who voted for him now claim they wish they hadn't! Those who continue to defend him, much like Obama himself, dont want to take responsibility for anything. Its easier to point the finger at Bush, or any other means, as to not take the blame for mistakes. Obama wont get re-elected, and based off his approval numbers, I think he knows that too. Raising 1 bill is a clear case of trying to buy the seat of President...kinda sounds familiar with his seat in the Senate trying be sold huh? Some things never change~

Simple.

With no factual, intellectual, or logical responses to criticisms of obama available, all obama's supporters have to offer in rebuttal are personal insults and throwing the race card.

But really it's OK. It's how you know you've beaten them.

I'm an Independent. The power elite want to insure their wishes are carried out. Corporations are sitting on nearly two trillian dollars profit that they have not decided to invest and expand.This may fluctuate for the next two years.While political parties are criticising each other, the strings are being pulled to keep you (Dems/Gops)dancing.and running at the mouth.Don't worry. You'll be told what to do.You'll even think you had some say in the decision.

They blamed Bush. Can't now.
They blamed greedy corporations. But THEY wrote the tax codes that the greedy corporations used.
They blamed the Tea Party. A bunch of snary upstarts who want a smaller government and less taxes.
They blamed the ignorant masses. Because the ignorant masses just didn't get their message.

About the only people thy have not blamed. . . . wait for it. . . . . wait for it. . . . .

Are themselves.

Because he didn't destroy this country enough the first time around. Cant blame Bush for this mess anymore, Obama owns it. Whoever voted for him owns it now. It is time for you guys to accept it.

I would like to add that maybe it is time for you to accept that it does not matter who the president is. This is obvious to those who wish to see it. Blame the other party. It is all their fault. Then the other party taks control. Blame the other party it is all their fault. This is a never ending cycle that people such as yourself fall for.

But hey, this is only my opinion. What do I know? I cannot even vote. I get to sit back on the sidelines watching everybody complain and gripe about everybody else. It is too far gone my friend. You cannot interupt the Military Industrial complex and it's associates. Money is king, not the president.

reply to post by thorazineshuffle


A quick look at many of the previously hidden and secretive white supremacist groups shows they are coming out of the closet and forming groups, joining with the Tea Party.
They are usually the ones mixed in with regular folks holding signs depicting the President as a Swahili Witch Doctors (not too likely since "witch doctors, midwives, herbalists etc. are no match for the AMA and he would have been drummed out of the country already) and they are typically the ones carrying the confederate flags and Nazi images that make that group appear racist whether the majority of people are actually racist or not. This might have something to do with it.

Originally posted by beezzer
They blamed Bush. Can't now.
They blamed greedy corporations. But THEY wrote the tax codes that the greedy corporations used.
They blamed the Tea Party. A bunch of snary upstarts who want a smaller government and less taxes.
They blamed the ignorant masses. Because the ignorant masses just didn't get their message.

About the only people thy have not blamed. . . . wait for it. . . . . wait for it. . . . .

Are themselves.

And next election cycle they will have to blame themselves again.
I think he is the only one running.

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I voted for him, because I was more scared of McCain/Palin than I was Obama.

I hope to God I don't have to vote for him again, but who do you see as a better option?

I still won't vote for Palin/McCain, and I don't see any other viable Republicans. I might vote for Kucinich or Hillary, but they won't oppose Obama. I would love to vote for Ron Paul, but he will sink his own campaign by hanging out with Alex Jones and letting the anarchists do his campaigning for him. I won't vote for Rand Paul, he isn't like his father.

Will Ventura run?

Would Trump actually be a viable candidate? I'd have to see him in action.

So, Yes Obama was a bad president, but can I say I regret my vote? I still don't see any other option.

Can we vote for a timeout? No president for a little while?

Will someone step up that is actually a leader instead of a politician?

reply to post by getreadyalready


Third party or just write in who you want.

It doesnt do anyone any good at all to vote for the lesser evil.

Just voting the lesser because you feel no other has a chance or you want to be a vicarious "winner" or whatever is an affront to the election system and the ultimate wasted vote.

The only vote worth casting is the vote you honestly believe in.

This just in, Jesse Ventura announced that if Ron Paul was to change his party to independent, then Jesse would run along side Paul as the VP. That would be outstanding! Paul/Ventura 2012!

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Thank you, that is true. I feel it is still a "wasted vote," but at least I wouldn't be actively contributing to the downfall.

Ron Paul seems great, but his handling of his own campaign strikes me odd and gives me pause.

Last election, I don't think there was any candidate I could have voted for in good faith. At least not after the primaries were over.

We need someone to step up for the country in a big way this go around!

Are you anti-American Socialist Democrats happy with the way your "Anti-American Revolution" is going?
First you give us... Old, Jimmy 'peanut brains' Carter !
Then you give us the Clinton and Obama Saul Alinsky team !
Obama and Hillary's Rules for Revolution!

Thanks LOL!

Bring our boy's home...the enemy is "WITHIN!"

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Ahhh yes. The ol' "Obama's a puppet" trick!

Forgot that one.

Remember back when everything was Bush's fault?
Now Obama's a puppet.

The only race I believe in is the Human race(aliens excluded). Color has nothing to do with it. It doesn't matter what party they say they are from, its all one corporation of deceit. Its all one family and always has been. Because of this no one will ever be happy. People think they are getting something different in each election but they never do the research on the candidates before the election, and then get mad after the fact when someone else does the research for them, or they come to the understanding that a politician only says what the people want to hear in order to get elected. Like the new politician is any different from all the others that came before. Then there are a few good ones like Ron Paul. The problem is that, a politician has to follow certain rules and one good turn simply enacts a negative as well, and the people can not decide what it is they really want and continue to fight and downgrade each other instead of getting things done. It's a false business designed to make money from doing little to nothing in return. As for Obama putting 1 billion aside for his re-election campaign, He knows he f***ed up and also knows it is going to take that much to make his reality show popular enough for the people to want to rent it again.

Woo hoo!! Let the hate, the fighting and the division of our country begin. It's election time!!!

Let's all pick a team and then bash the hell out of each other up until election day while the politicians on both sides, who don't give a damn about any of us, laugh all the way to the bank.

For the sake of discussion I will pretend like this isn't a juvenile silly rant of an OP.

Originally posted by thorazineshuffle
Why is it that just because some one disagrees with Obama, you automatically throw the race card?

The vast majority of the time people accuse critics of Pre. Obama as being racists it is becuase they are making racists comments.

Glen Beck .......Obama has "over and over again" exposed himself as "a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture. "

I have dealt with this S&^T from the middle of 2008 until now. The only things you guys offer as a defense is either "You're just a inbred, backwoods, racist", or we get everything is Bush's fault.

Can you be more specific? Claiming Pres. Obama is a Kenyan born terrorist with a "black agenda"...well that's just backwoods IMO ...economic issues...Pres. Obama is responsible for the policies he has implemented to repair the damage, but claiming he caused the economic crisis, well that was on Pres. Bush's watch and though deregulation played a part I am pretty sure the recession would have happened whoever was in office.

That is very weak, and luckily for yourselves, no one in teh main stream media will call you out for it, since they are on your team. Well, chums, this new war, that you guys hate so much, is OBAMA's war, and where are your protesters at now? Cindy Sheehan, where are you???

Uhhh...Cindy Sheehan lost a child along with 4,500 other American families to a war that everbody agrees was begun on false premises. In Libya we have lost ZERO soldiers and were in command for maybe a week as opposed to 8 years...Strange how many folks can't tell the difference between 4,500 lives and ZERO and 8 years and 1 week.

What about the debt our country is experiencing now?

Nations go into debt during economic crisis. Ditto with people. You can either feel sorry for yourself and give up or work hard and recover...that also goes for both nations and people. I choose to work hard rather than spend my time crying over my bills. IMO that is what Americans do best...look forward, work hard, be better prepared next time, figure out what mistkaes not to repeat, but I do understand the political convenience of claiming that the debt is the result of a "socialistic spending spree" rather than the cost of an economic crisis...but I also understand plain truths. We are in debt becuase our economy nearly collapsed.

Here is a good question for 2012 Presidential candidates..."looking back over the past 4 years, knowing everything you know now, how would you have addressed the world economic crisis and what would you have had the USA do differently?"

Unfortunately I expect questions like..."Who here has had romantic fantasies involving Ronald Reagan?"

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I believe that all presidents are puppets. Dem or repub. What are you getting at?

I will continue calling them puppets, even if an independant ever gets elected. I realize that money runs the show. If you have no money, you have no show. Then once you buy your way in, you have to repay all of the favors. How is this not being a puppet?

Originally posted by getreadyalready

So, Yes Obama was a bad president, but can I say I regret my vote? I still don't see any other option.

I am with you there. I give Pres. Obama a C+ at best...but grade him on a curve amongst the options and he rises to a B+/A-.

What I long for is a return to relevant and honest debate in this country and then hopefully more good candidates will be interested in running....but as it stands, who would want to enter such an insane circus of BS?

Originally posted by truther357
Are you anti-American Socialist Democrats happy with the way your "Anti-American Revolution" is going?
First you give us... Old, Jimmy 'peanut brains' Carter !
Then you give us the Clinton and Obama Saul Alinsky team !
Obama and Hillary's Rules for Revolution!

Thanks LOL!

Bring our boy's home...the enemy is "WITHIN!"

Dude your kinda harsh what country do u live in dems are not the crazy ones if I recall correctly it's the republican party who wants all you back woods rednecks to do there bidding just like most of our politicians are corporate slaves just like u and me we need to stop fighting among our
Selves and take the fight to the elete they are the real problem so what to do keep crying and complaining and take action to those who are really killing this
Country