Chemtrails ? My view

Why oh why are there endless debates regarding the subject of Chemtrails.
The whole subject is just a hoax , perpetrated by some looney in 1996 .
Do the " believers " honestly think that the gorvernment of a given country would set out to poison its population in this manner and hope to get away with it ?

My main problem with this whole theory is , if TPTB were polluting our skies , then it would effect EVERYBODY including members of their own family , their friends etc.

Come on guys/gals , get a grip and stop polluting the forums with such utter rubbish .

Peace

I call it sky smudging...

It seems more like an attempt to camouflage certain activities.

I agree with your premise. Nobody would harm themselves or their family's.

However, in some places it is getting ridiculous.

You have some nerve posting this... or maybe your just stupid.

I woke up this morning with 7 lines covering my sky, several more were already hazed and dispersing. I live in a rural Northern California town. It's 8'oclock on an otherwise blue day. Now what gives?

Chemtrails have multiple purposes, limiting consciousness and disrupting torsion fields is one(see first link). I suspect they are flown by MK Ultra assets. This goes way beyond the government, which is completely obsolete anyway.

theuniversalseduction.com...

imageevent.com...

Originally posted by Mayura
You have some nerve posting this... or maybe your just stupid.

I woke up this morning with 7 lines covering my sky, several more were already hazed and dispersing. I live in a rural Northern California town. It's 8'oclock on an otherwise blue day. Now what gives?

Chemtrails have multiple purposes, limiting consciousness and disrupting torsion fields is one(see first link). I suspect they are flown by MK Ultra assets. This goes way beyond the government, which is completely obsolete anyway.

theuniversalseduction.com...

imageevent.com...

Insulting me will not thurther your argument .

Neither will posting links to fuel this HOAX

reply to post by gandalphthegrey


Heh... time for a recap.


I stated my experience upon waking up... then I called you a bloody idiot.

After that, I stated my personal view on the topic and prescribed some interesting links for those not completely braindead. You are the one with no argument and are wasting space, polluting this forum, just like the sky outside my window.


Good day.

Gandalf uses logic. Tanks - nice to see. But tomorrow we will see another chemtrail thread, I fear.

Who said it was to poison everyone?

Could be to block satellite signals from seeing ground movement.

Could be to block U.V.

Could be a sinister depopulation program.

We just had 3 days of beautiful clear sky's here in Tahoe. You could see forever.
They're spraying this morning.. zig Zag zig Zag...
Sky is hazy. Happens all the time with no particular pattern of routine.
Two hours south of us is a military base. It's used to train American and foreign troops for Afghanistan type altitude and terrain. That includes building helicopter pads in remote hard to get to area's. Rumor has it quite a number of different countries go in and out of there.
Only articles about U.S. troops going in and out are in local papers. We know better.

I have NO clue what they spray. I do NOT get sick when they spray. Long term? I do not know.

The debate that they do not exist,for me,is a moot point.I'm bored with arguing what they are.
Until someone comes forward,YOU can debate whether they exist or not and what they are.(hiding from phage)

I'd rather spend my spare time getting owners of ATS elected President and VP. I want a spot in the cabinet.
I promise,if they are elected and I get a cabinet post,I will offer full transparency on anything I can sneak past my security clearance,signed national security signature,and treason documents,even if they say no talking for 20 years. I have my priorities.

Just don't make me do the secret handshake..and I think we're good to go.

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They even do it in Washington!

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I have some questions for you believers and de-bunkers. I would very much like to believe that there is no such thing as "chem-trails", but there are moments when I think there is at least some truth to it all. For instance, a couple of days ago (last saturday) we had wonderfull weather over here (22 deg celcius at least). So around 09:00 in the morning I decided to go sit in the garden and enjoy the weather. The sky was clear and blue at that time, but that didn't last very long, because 45 minutes later the sky was being filled with trails.

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After about an hour, the sky started to change from a clear blue, to a thick layer of cloud, as you can see in the pictures below. All the trails started to spread out and overlap eachother. None of them were actual clouds as one would expect, but a thick blanket.

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Eeven though it pissed me off, that planes over my head were responsible for fogging up the sky, I still couldn't bring myself to believing they were actually spraying something up there. The next day however, I was confused by what I saw. Everything was covered with a layer of, what appeared to be, fine white dust.

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I decided to collect some, and brushed some of it on to a white piece of paper, so that i could examine it more closely. After taking a couple of close-ups I discovered that it was not white at all, but a mix of all kinds of strange particles. When I folded the paper and re-opened it again, some of the matter changed in to a red/orangy/pinkish dust, as shown in the pictures below. As you can see it even has some orange spheres in the mix.

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As you can see, this is not a figment of my imagination. And let's, for argument sake, say that chem-trails do not exist, then what the hell did just fall from the sky? Can someone explain this to me?

For those who doubt, I still have the original large photo's with the data (date and time) in tact. P.M. me if you would like the originals.

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Stick in a container and go get it tested.

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I can see myself ending up arrested for sending a "suspicious powdery substance" to a politician. I will probably be marked as a terrorist, before they tell me, or the public for that matter, what is actually in it.

Besides, I don't think I will get a straight answer anyway. Imagine that it is actually something fishy, do you think they will be open about it? The only thing I can think of, is sending it to a lab. Unfortunately it costs a lot of money to have it analized by an independent institute.

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God I wouldn't send it to a polly!

Got a local uni nearby?

Or an agricultural department?

Oh and what sort of trees am I seeing in the photos?

reply to post by Chadwickus


I will do my best to see if I can actually do something like that CW. I guess I could send it to a university or something. I'll make sure to post the results when I do so. I am not familiar with the trees, but I can ask my neighbour tomorrow, he is a gardner. Ill get back to you on that.

Wow another one....

Everyone is posting the same crap over and over again, not one bit of information has changed my mind.

They ARE spraying something.

The collected white stuff is red/brown, sand maybe?

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Could be sand, although I find the color to be a bit off, it's chalky and it gives off color to the paper. Ill get me a tripod later to make a more stable close-up, with some more light.

reply to post by niceguybob


I second that.....the thread starter is provocating if you'd ask me...He should know better than this silly short thread opener. Maybe he is for real and did hear or read today for the first time about the chemtrail phenomenon. If so there will be a sea of information out there for him to read.....and maybe start a more challenging new thread?

www.2012theawakening.com...

Drunk Pilot Spills the Beans On Chemtrails.....There is a WEALTH of information connected to this article.

The direct information about the drunk pilot is the least interesting here.

Someone go in,have a look and please share your opinion.. Is THIS the smoking gun?

Is it connect the dots time?

reply to post by niceguybob


Nice link, full of BS, such as...

The security at the Pinal site is said to be as severe as that of Area 51. It is run as a military base where one lost pilot got an armed escort immediately off the operational base. The 10 year pilot said it was nothing like anything he has ever seen.

Pinal airfield is a public airport, yes Evergreen are based there and so is an Apache training squadron.

But security as severe as Area 51?

Pffft