Has Britain lost a secret War?

Britain is no longer the great country it used to be.

It is falling apart at the seems. It seems that the government is sitting back and watching it happen. It's turning into a 3rd world, wild west, hell where anything goes. The schools are getting over run by foreigners crime is at an all time worst. The country is broke!! Illegal* Immigration is like a plague on society. It's as if there was some sort of secret war, Britain LOST and now it's been looted and ravaged and raped of everything it used to be.


*I'm starting to think it isn't actual "illegal" and it's just we're being occupied by the winning countries. I don't know. Perhaps there was some sort of background deal where the elites decided that the UK got the short straw, so they get all the crap.

Yes, It looks like the EU won and now the UK is being overtaken and being overrun by all those tramps. The ones from Poland and Romania that is.

sounds like you have been reading too many newspaper headlines, its fine where i live and it seems nice enough where ever i go, havent been to scotland for a while but it cant be that bad up there.

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I think your views are a little extreme .
Yes crime is on the increase , but then it always has been .
Imigration is at an all-time high and certain individuals are milking the benefit and health services , but these individuals include our own people . I am 46 and I know people how have never worked a day since leaving fulltime education.
Most of our national industries are now sadly gone , but then who expected them to last forever ?

Life here is still better than most countries in the world , so keep smiling

The biggest issue is with the EU member states that come to the UK, overcrowd our schools and colleges, claim benefits and generally treat the locals like #e. This isnt a right wing view with no basis, this is my hands on experience of the UK over the last 6 years. I hate to say it but during times like these it should be Britain for the British and immigration should be completely stopped unless essential, we should remove ourselves from all of the dummy wars for oil, resign from the EU and rebuild from within. Sounds extreme however is the only solution to the issues we face.

The Daily Mail has an awful lot to answer for...
The country the OP describes certainly isn't the one I live in.

Originally posted by SprocketUK
The Daily Mail has an awful lot to answer for...
The country the OP describes certainly isn't the one I live in.

Yes, then go and hide under your oblivious little rock and continue to be ignorant of all else around you. If it isn't a problem in your own front yard it's not a problem then is it?

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My friend . Bravo to you for your show of passion for our beloved country , but do try and keep things civil .
Insulting fellow members for their views is not the right way to go about things .
Allow people to have their say . Afterall they are only responding to your post .

Originally posted by routerboy

Originally posted by SprocketUK
The Daily Mail has an awful lot to answer for...
The country the OP describes certainly isn't the one I live in.

Yes, then go and hide under your oblivious little rock and continue to be ignorant of all else around you. If it isn't a problem in your own front yard it's not a problem then is it?

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So I'm the ignorant one? That's a laugh, mate.
I live in Glos. There are quite a mix of ethnicities round here, the only problems seem to come from bigots...of whatever hue.

When was the last time you couldn't get treatment at the hossie cos it was full of immigrants? Or an education?

To be brutally honest, mate, your post reminds me of the poisonous rhetoric employed by the BNP.

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It's this type of bigotry ranting which really makes my blood boil.........the UK would be up sh*t creak without a paddle if it wasn't for most of these 'foreigners' doing the jobs that the Brits refuse to do. You complain that there is no work, and yet these 'foreigners' seem to find jobs. Yes, they're menial, uninspiring jobs, but at least they do them instead of sitting at home claiming benefits.

You complain that the schools are overrun by 'foreigners', and yet you say nothing about the British kids who refuse to go to school to get an education and rather sit around on street corners causing havoc.

In case you haven't noticed, most of the 'Pols' you refer to are moving back home as they can earn more money back there now anyway.

If the Brits actually decided to get off their backsides to do the jobs the 'foreigners' are doing, you wouldn't really have a problem, now would you!?!? Yes, cleaning toilets or picking vegetables isn't glamorous, but at least its an income and one less job a 'foreigner' would be doing!

Some enlightening reading for you about crime in the UK:

mailwatch

Originally posted by routerboy
Britain is no longer the great country it used to be.

It is falling apart at the seems. It seems that the government is sitting back and watching it happen. It's turning into a 3rd world, wild west, hell where anything goes. The schools are getting over run by foreigners crime is at an all time worst. The country is broke!! Illegal* Immigration is like a plague on society. It's as if there was some sort of secret war, Britain LOST and now it's been looted and ravaged and raped of everything it used to be.


*I'm starting to think it isn't actual "illegal" and it's just we're being occupied by the winning countries. I don't know. Perhaps there was some sort of background deal where the elites decided that the UK got the short straw, so they get all the crap.

Yes, It looks like the EU won and now the UK is being overtaken and being overrun by all those tramps. The ones from Poland and Romania that is.

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Its about time .. the british have been plundering .. stealing .. raping .. killing .. enslaving .. for centuries from around the globe .. all their so called "wealth" including the diamond on the old hag's stick is stolen property that needs to be returned .. they OWE reparations to all former colonies ..
the british only came as far as they did because they are murderers and crooks .. they're going down !

I am not a bigot. I just would like to see the people born over in Britain better themselves and not of all the foreigners stealing the jobs from them. I'm an American.

Originally posted by routerboy
Britain is no longer the great country it used to be.

It is falling apart at the seems. It seems that the government is sitting back and watching it happen. It's turning into a 3rd world, wild west, hell where anything goes. The schools are getting over run by foreigners crime is at an all time worst. The country is broke!! Illegal* Immigration is like a plague on society. It's as if there was some sort of secret war, Britain LOST and now it's been looted and ravaged and raped of everything it used to be.


*I'm starting to think it isn't actual "illegal" and it's just we're being occupied by the winning countries. I don't know. Perhaps there was some sort of background deal where the elites decided that the UK got the short straw, so they get all the crap.

In case you haven't noticed, or have been sleeping under a rock, this very same thing is happening in America too. America is being over run by criminals also, and the sad part is the criminals are making billions of American dollars with the illegal drug trade, while hard working American people go hungry, and without. America's governing body seems for all the world like a cadre of puppets, being commanded from above like so many marionettes in a children's show.

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Not in the America I live in.

Originally posted by routerboy
I am not a bigot. I just would like to see the people born over in Britain better themselves and not of all the foreigners stealing the jobs from them. I'm an American.

I don't think for one second that foreigners steal jobs . They are just prepared to do the menial jobs that our lazy loafers are not prepared to do .
I work with many foriegners , inluding Poles , Africans , Russians and have always found them to be hard working and polite .

Originally posted by routerboy
I am not a bigot. I just would like to see the people born over in Britain better themselves and not of all the foreigtners stealing the jobs from them. I'm an American.

Nobody is stealing jobs. Nobody apart from multinational corporations seeking to add a few more bucks to the balance sheet.
So you are a yank? Where do you live? In the US? If so, how can you possibly know what day to day life is like here? Or are you in the UK? In which case, you must be part of the problem you are portraying.

Originally posted by SprocketUK

Originally posted by routerboy
I am not a bigot. I just would like to see the people born over in Britain better themselves and not of all the foreigtners stealing the jobs from them. I'm an American.

Nobody is stealing jobs. Nobody apart from multinational corporations seeking to add a few more bucks to the balance sheet.
So you are a yank? Where do you live? In the US? If so, how can you possibly know what day to day life is like here? Or are you in the UK? In which case, you must be part of the problem you are portraying.

Very well put , my friend .

Cheeky yank

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I feel I'm ok with that, since the aul fella was one.

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Chicago, Illinois . I have friends in the UK.

I don't think you are seeing anything new or different where it comes to England despite the romanticized past you are relying on, coincidentally Rome being one of the first in recorded history to invade and stomp all over the aisles.

Successive waves, and Saxons and Normans out of Gaul, the Vikings out of Scandanavia the Lombards and other Germans have been having a go at Britania for well, millenia!

Tyrants have come and gone, golden ages whose songs are sung well later in retrospect of an age or time then considered gold that was pretty much the same old crap to those people then living through it as your Britania is today.

Never well loved by it's rulers, many of them foreign born, even hero's like King Richard the Lion Heart once mused he would happily sell Londinium if he could only find a rich enough buyer!

Ah the good old days, not always so good, but fairly representative of what really is by all acounts the same old same old.

By the way could you send me a piece of London Bridge, I think it would make a nice paper weight!

I'm willing to pay!

Originally posted by routerboy
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Chicago, Illinois . I have friends in the UK.

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Freaky! My mates in the local MC have friends there!

Anyway, either your friends are in a deeply sh1tty place, or are being brainwashed by the right wing press.

There is a growing tendency to try and create divisions between communities by certain elements of the media, and I'd suggest to you that the things you've highlighted are more a result of misinformation than observed reality.