Israel urges UN to cancel Goldstone Report on Gaza war

Originally posted by bsbray11More like we should invade Israel if we want to invade a country that is oppressive to its people, engages in and supports terrorism and has weapons of mass destruction.

Hear hear! Different license plates for Arabs, Arabs have to drive in different lanes, etc. Arab members of the israeli govt are routinely beaten in public, the wall, etc. That's democracy for ya.
Not to mention israel's use of cluster bombs (Hey, kids!), white phosphorous bombs, unprovoked attacks on it's neighbors, causing the environmental disaster in Labanon by bombing the oil refinery, the flotilla massacre, etc etc etc.

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What a shock, Who would have thought Israel would commit war crimes.

Its time the world stopped bending over and letting Isreal touch us up, where ever and when ever it wants.

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What about us Canadians, if you guys drop out, we have to as well.
I don't have a problem with your idea, as long as we could co align with you.
I wouldn't mind ridding harper anyways.
And going to war with Israel sounds like it would be easy, you guys sold em all their weapons anyways.

I am not surprised Mr Netanyahu would love to get the Goldstone Report buried.

He foolishly refused to cooperate with the Report and now, after its completion and obviously, not to his satisfaction, Mr Goldstone is suddenly given, probably by a Mossad agent, a few crumbs from Mr Netanyahu. Crumbs before hand, you tried a tiny bit to cooperate but, crumbs after report finished, looks like desperation and manipulation which some might think amounts to conspiracy as it relates to this Report for which you can go to jail..

Some of Mr Goldstone's crumbs seem to reflect that the onslaught was aimed at only combatants - which was of course difficult in such a densely populated area, where a huge part of that population were children. How were so many civilians killed and injured with soldiers on the ground coordinating targets? How was the UN Compound whose coordinates were known hit during the onslaught. With all of the technology available in Mr Netanyahu's arsenal was it a simple human error, done to cripple them reporting what had happened or to make them leave Gaza.

What was Mr Netanyahu doing with illegal weapons in his arsenal and why did he use the illegal phosphorus bombs in Gaza? Most of the world witnessed lumps of burning phosphorus via their internet and tv screens, One would have expected that from someone like Sadam Hussein.

He is in the position where not only did he keep much of this away from his own electorate, many of his own people were horrified at what he had ordered to be done is Gaza and hold their own views about his liability to face the Hague. They are in the position most of us find ourselves in, what we think is right and want carried out in our name, appears to be some alien concept to the government we elected. Mr Netanyahu knows his actions in Gaza will not go away. He has damaged Israel's reputation and his policies for turning either a single State or a two State system into a peaceful, prosperous and working environment for all its peoples have not only failed but worsened the situation for normal Israelis and Palestinians.

He must worry that should the people decide when they next hold their elections etc that he is a stumbling block and needs to be removed, he won't be so protected anymore and then he will have to face a War Crimes Tribunal along with a few others from his Cabinet.

Many of us are seeing some of our Government Figure Heads get away with terrible crimes, if we only go for some and ignore others our world is made unsafer by the day. Personally I think Tony Blair and the way he forced us Brits into war is another who should face the Hague. If Mr Goldstone's Report helps to create more responsible and accountable Government Ministers I wish him success.

Maybe the gazans will be more careful next time in who they elect. Hamas came to power because the people voted for them and we all know what hamas stands for right? "All the jews into the sea" but in reality they just want to keep pushing jews to the point of no return.

Don't get me wrong though, Israel has a bad tendency of either over-reacting or not reacting at all. They could have settled this whole ordeal a long time ago back in the 60's and 70's by doing away with the PLO and giving palestinians Israeli citizenship.

And France with there actions in multiple fronts in Africa. Heres who hes been getting advice from.

A article that says Bernard-Henri LEvy is the one pulling Sarkozy's strings?

www.newsweek.com...

Why Sarkozy Went to War
My philosopher made me do it! France's president needed help taking down Gaddafi. He got it from the intellectual swashbuckler Bernard-Henri Lévy.
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Eric Feferberg / AFP-Getty Images (left); Patrick Kovarik / AFP-Getty Images
Nicolas Sarkozy (left) and Bernard-Henri Levy
In their favored haunts all across the city, at the bar of the Hotel Raphael near the Arc de Triomphe, in the tearooms of the Lutetia on the Left Bank and the Bristol on the Right Bank—a long way, in short, from the carnage in the Libyan desert—the Paris literati are bantering nonstop about the nuances of French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s somewhat puzzling decision to lead their country and the Western world to war. Not a few have been amused, or chagrined, or both, to learn that one of their own, the ever-so-flamboyant (some would say insufferable) philosophe Bernard-Henri Lévy had a pivotal role in prompting the allies’ intervention. “I might write a book about it myself,” says the man commonly known as BHL—by far the most controversial public intellectual in France—as he settles into the Raphael’s dark red-velvet upholstery.

Heres Bernard-Henri LEvy wikipage.

en.wikipedia.org...

New Philosophers
Returning to Paris, Lévy became famous as the young founder of the New Philosophers (Nouveaux Philosophes) school. This was a group of young intellectuals who were disenchanted with communist and socialist responses to the near-revolutionary upheavals in France of May 1968, and who articulated a fierce and uncompromising moral critique of Marxist and socialist dogmas.[2] Throughout the 1970s, Lévy taught a course on epistemology at the Université de Strasbourg and he taught philosophy at the École Normale Supérieure. It was in 1977, on the television show Apostrophes,[3] that Lévy was presented, alongside André Glucksmann, as a nouveau philosophe. In the very same year he published Barbarism with a Human Face (La barbarie à visage humain), arguing that Marxism was inherently corrupt.

[edit] Intellectual involvement
In 1981 Lévy published L'Idéologie française ("The French Ideology"), arguably his most influential work, in which he offers a dark picture of French history. It was strongly criticized for its journalistic character and unbalanced approach to French history by some of the most respected French academics — including Raymond Aron (see his Memoirs).

Lévy was one of the first French intellectuals to call for intervention in the Bosnian War in the 1990s, and spoke out early about the alleged Serbian concentration camps. He referred to the Jewish experience in the Holocaust as providing a lesson that mass murder cannot be ignored by those in other nations.[4]

When his father died in 1995, Lévy became the manager of the Becob company, until it was sold in 1997 for 750 million francs to the French entrepreneur François Pinault.

At the end of the 1990s, he founded with Benny Lévy and André Glucksmann an Institute on Levinassian Studies at Jerusalem.

Originally posted by Davian
We (USA) need to do these things, and we need to do them now:
- Get Obama and his administration out of office. (Impeach, protest, whatev.)

How about that old fashioned thing called "vote"??

- Get out of the United Nations. (All they do is use our troops as if they were their own, we shouldn't answer to them anyway.)

lol - what a great example of the US educational system!!

From the wiki article on peacekeeping (en.wikipedia.org...)

10 main troop-contributing countries to UN peacekeeping operations as of September 2010 were Bangladesh (10,736), Pakistan (10,691), India (8,935), Nigeria (5,709), Egypt (5,458), Nepal (5,044), Jordan (3,826), Ghana (3,647), Rwanda (3,635), Uruguay (2,489).

and

About 4.5% of the troops and civilian police deployed in UN peacekeeping missions come from the European Union and less than one percent from the United States (USA).

- Pull out of Libya.

What - all 15 CIA operatives at once??

- Declare war on Israel and the globalists.

The USA is most of the Globalists - you really want another civil war??