Israel urges UN to cancel Goldstone Report on Gaza war

Israel urges UN to cancel Goldstone Report on Gaza war

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Israel has called on the UN to cancel a report that said it possibly committed war crimes during its 2008-2009 military offensive in Gaza.

The report's author, South African judge Richard Goldstone, said on Friday that new accounts indicated Israel had not deliberately targeted civilians.

He said that if he had known what he knew now, "the Goldstone Report would have been a different document".

Israel's prime minister said the remark meant the report "should be buried".

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This is fascinating, the prime minister of Israel commenting that a UN report into Israeli war crimes in Gaza should be covered up. This article really does not need any of my commentary, it seeks volumes in itself and I would say it is absolute proof of a attempt by the Israeli state to cover up war crimes.

What’s interesting that even though the report apparently does not say that they deliberately targeted civilians they still tried to have it covered up

Let me know what you all think


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More like we should invade Israel if we want to invade a country that is oppressive to its people, engages in and supports terrorism and has weapons of mass destruction.

I like and dislike israel. They always disappoint me in major ways. It is a good thing the jewish community is far different than the political government or their be good reason to hate a jew imo.

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What’s interesting that even though the report apparently does not say that they deliberately targeted civilians they still tried to have it covered up

The initial report DID say Israel targeted civilians..

The UN-appointed expert panel led by Mr Goldstone accused Israel of using disproportionate force, deliberately targeting civilians and destroying civilian infrastructure, and using people as human shields.

Goldstone has now said due to new evidence, that is incorrect..
I wonder what NEW evidence comes out years later??
I also thought Israel admitted to using phosphorus..

We (USA) need to do these things, and we need to do them now:
- Get Obama and his administration out of office. (Impeach, protest, whatev.)
- Get out of the United Nations. (All they do is use our troops as if they were their own, we shouldn't answer to them anyway.)
- Pull out of Libya.
- Declare war on Israel and the globalists.

Originally posted by Davian
We (USA) need to do these things, and we need to do them now:
- Get Obama and his administration out of office. (Impeach, protest, whatev.)
- Get out of the United Nations. (All they do is use our troops as if they were their own, we shouldn't answer to them anyway.)
- Pull out of Libya.
- Declare war on Israel and the globalists.

With full veto power the US does nothing it doesn't want to do in the UN..
More likely the US controls the UN rather than the other way around..
Same with Libya..The US is there because it wants to be there..
I wouldn't declare war on Israel but I'd like to see their influence in the US disappear along with all the aid they receive..

Nothing is wrong with Israel. This is what I hate about members on ats, they blame it on the people and community of Israel, but the problem is the government of Israel and anything making major power moves, not the women and children, although they are also brainwashed just like us americans. Coincidence? MSM

Originally posted by Jordan River
Nothing is wrong with Israel. This is what I hate about members on ats, they blame it on the people and community of Israel, but the problem is the government of Israel and anything making major power moves, not the women and children, although they are also brainwashed just like us americans. Coincidence? MSM

True but the same is true about America and many other countries..
The actions of the leaders reflect on the population..

But at the end of the day the real power is in the hands of the people..
They are just to ignorant and lazy to realize..

Of course they want to bury it, we did the same in hiding war crimes comitted in The Afghanand Iraq wars Quaddaffi is claiming he is not using air power and tanks on civilians. Every Government on Earth commits war crimes when they go to war, some just due to confusion on the battlefield and individual "bad apples" and some ordered directly from the top. Wikileaks is full of examples of this. I was in the U.S. Army during the "peaceful" Clinton years and even in between 1998 and august 2001 they trained .50 cal gunners (an automatic crew served weapon with obscenely large bullets) to fire at an enemies "equipment or weapons" as the Geneva Conventions specificly forbid the using of said weapon on human beings. The Israli and Palistinian conflict is definitely dicy and as usual in the affairs of Earthlings the line between freedom fighting nationalist and terrorist and the line between security force and imperialistic occupying army is mostly a matter of already chosen sides and perspective.

The UN body should show up, unarmed and with no security to "bury" this report in the same area where thousands of Palestinians were killed.

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Actually what he said was civilians were not targeted as a "matter of policy"..
That in no way states they were not targeted by people within the IDF..
It's also worth noting that the "new" information he is basing this on is from an Israeli investigation..

He said the Israeli investigations, which were recognised by a UN committee, indicated that "civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy".

Having been in war, we should just stop it all right now.

I mean the UN this, USA that, Iran he's a.......You see what I mean it's a never ending cycle and it's never going to end until we destroy ourselves.

You have to know that Israel has been under attack since it was formed and who are groups involved in it? Hezbolla, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood (they are the parent group of the two former ones).

Baaaaaa!!

It is a good thing the jewish community is far different than the political government

I think this can be said for many countries, including Palistine!
Does Israel have a right to exterminate?

Originally posted by kevinunknown


This is fascinating, the prime minister of Israel commenting that a UN report into Israeli war crimes in Gaza should be covered up. This article really does not need any of my commentary, it seeks volumes in itself and I would say it is absolute proof of a attempt by the Israeli state to cover up war crimes.

What’s interesting that even though the report apparently does not say that they deliberately targeted civilians they still tried to have it covered up

Let me know what you all think


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Goldstone's report was fatally flawed because he took at face value, reports from Palestinians - and treated them as though true, with no checking of their veracity - that is why this report should be buried!

The demonstrable,documented FACTS are: that the IDF acted with more restraint and regard for civilian casualties than any army on earth has ever done - whilst fighting a terrorist enemy, commiting warcrimes as a matter of policy, hiding its fighters behind civilians in the most densley populated area on earth - amidst the spectacleofthe international media bending over backwards to ignore this fact - whilst spinning every Israeli action as a warcrime!

This is all part of the ongoing propaganda attempt to portray Israel as guilty of war crimes so that it can eventually be the target of the Arab/Muslim/Marxist dominated UN's 'Responsibility to Protect' doctrine sponsored/created by Sorros Obama and friends.

This is nothing new, Israel has previously tried to discredit the Goldstone report. Infact they refused to aid in the investigation altogether. To the average person that just screams of "they're hiding somthing". It is an extrmely interesting and insightful report. I'm going to be buying a copy this week so I can read it again. Keep in mind though, it still must be looked at critically. If you do that though, you will see that the report is consistent with most of which we have been seeing coming out of the region.

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Goldstone's report was fatally flawed because he took at face value, reports from Palestinians - and treated them as though true, with no checking of their veracity - that is why this report should be buried!

Gee and I wonder who investigated Israeli actions...

"This is the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] investigating the IDF," said one UN official who was in Gaza at the time.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Originally posted by backinblack
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Goldstone's report was fatally flawed because he took at face value, reports from Palestinians - and treated them as though true, with no checking of their veracity - that is why this report should be buried!

Gee and I wonder who investigated Israeli actions...

"This is the IDF [Israel Defence Forces] investigating the IDF," said one UN official who was in Gaza at the time.

news.bbc.co.uk...

So - what other nation lets an outside force investigate it's military? - none as far as I know! - so why is Israel being singled out for criticism.

It appears that now, two years later, he is impressed that Israel is conducting investigations into acts of individual soldiers. Yet this is how the IDF always acted. His belated retraction also doesn't note that much of what his report said was known to be false at the time the Goldstone Report was released, as I and others have documented quite exhaustively. His report had a clear and consistent bias where Israeli claims were treated skeptically but Hamas claims were believed without reservation. To come back 18 months later and lamely admit that Israeli claims were indeed found to be accurate just shows how biased he was in accepting problematic testimony then. For example, he writes now:

Israel’s lack of cooperation with our investigation meant that we were not able to corroborate how many Gazans killed were civilians and how many were combatants. The Israeli military’s numbers have turned out to be similar to those recently furnished by Hamas (although Hamas may have reason to inflate the number of its combatants).

But this blog as well as others had, already at that time, documented that hundreds of so-called "civilians" were in fact Hamas combatants, based purely on Hamas' own admissions in Arabic.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com...

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An Israel blog from eldersofzion..Nice unbiased source..

Buried in paragraph 108 of the Israeli foreign ministry's report to the UN on Gaza is the key fact of the document.

Two senior officers - one the commander of the Gaza ground operation, no less - were reprimanded for failing to follow their own rules of engagement.

The two officers have just been disciplined - they apparently keep their rank and pay - and will not face criminal prosecution.

So Israel admitted to these actions but later they were not true??
Seems a little odd to me..
I wonder what dirty secrets Mossad had on Goldstone..

I had a feeling that Israel would stop at nothing to have this covered up, by any means. Just shows the hypocrapsy, which Israel holds for the UN.

Off course other countries will support Israel in having this report bruied. Rather disgusting .

So much for justice for those, who Israel killed in Gazza.