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Originally posted by RickyD
reply to post by Cassius666
Isn't it our right to "rebel" against a government that isn't by the people for the people? In fact I see it as my duty as a citizen of this country to use the rights granted me by the constitution to do just that. I don't advocate violence but if you come for me or anyone else around me for having a different view (so long as it is nonviolent) I will stand up for you and do my best to not let it happen.
Periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.” -Thomas Jefferson
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure." -Thomas Jefferson
Now for a politician and founding father who also was the author of our constitution would say that shouldn't it have more attention paid to it?
ETA: Obviously someone missed a post see this LINK HERE for some pretty good proof!edit on 1-4-2011 by RickyD because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
but I can say that at least a couple of these stated locations do NOT contain any such "concentration camp". Actually VERY close to one of these right now, and there isn't anything like that around. This site posts prisons as concentration camps, with no reason for doing so.
Originally posted by alaskan
regarding the one listed at fort wainwright near fairbanks, alaska...
Ever since I started hearing people talk about how "The sports stadiums are the prison camps" I've been a little leery about an area I'm very familiar with.
It's the area on the left side of this picture, 'kiwanis park.' Follow the blue and purple lines, you'll have to scroll to the right...
There's a small skatepark right in the middle of all those baseball fields, and I ride my bike through there all the time in the summer.
There's a little spot where there are always hummers/light tanks parked near a loading dock. I've always wondered what it was there for, because I've never seen anyone there. It's just a locked up parking lot with a loading dock-to-nowhere and a bunch of military vehicles, fenced off with razor wire. In recent years there've been more vehicles and they've built some structures. Put these coordinates into google maps/earth, use street view, and go past the tank... 64.842528,-147.75223
According to google maps, the place is called the "Alaska State Defense Force," and there's another building up the road that I just found out is called "Mechanical Contractors." Creepy.
There's another building right before it, I think a VFW building, with a tank sitting on the corner of the block.
All those baseball fields right there are fenced in and they all have bleachers/stadium seating and/or a watch/guard shack or tower of some sort.
There's a school to the right in the image, and a convention center to the left. The school was just rebuilt within the past few years and the playground is completely fenced in. The convention center has huge cement blocks in the back parking lot that have never been used to my knowledge, but they're the kind you see used as temporary roadblocks all. The school and the convention center are the tallest buildings in the area by far, and have a clear view over all of the fields.
In a direct straight line down from the convention center, about a half-mile down the road (out of frame) is our actual prison.
So I've been leery of that area for a while now, but my reason for replying to this thread is that the river, and the train tracks just on the other side of the river, both run directly to the spot marked at fort wainwright as a prison camp location. If I was suspicious before, I'm... uh... very suspicious now. The railroad also forks at one point and carries on to another 'prison camp spot marker' at eilson air force base...
Ironically, I was walking around town after getting out of jail a few years ago and noticed a military helicopter landing in one of the baseball fields, the one directly connected to the convention center parking lot. I got close enough to get an alright picture of it as it was taking off again - they were obviously doing some kind of drill - but I can't get to that memory card right now...edit on 2-4-2011 by alaskan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by alaskan
Ironically, I was walking around town after getting out of jail a few years ago and noticed a military helicopter landing in one of the baseball fields, the one directly connected to the convention center parking lot. I got close enough to get an alright picture of it as it was taking off again - they were obviously doing some kind of drill - but I can't get to that memory card right now...
The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.
The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
The original intent of FEMA was to assure the survivability of the United States government in the event of a nuclear attack on this nation. The powers of FEMA continued to grow under people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the architects on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given control of the State Defense Forces...
- Mediterranean City stadium in Banias modified to act as giant jail
- More than 400 residents dragged from homes since Saturday
- Soldiers shoot dead four women as human chain blocks tanks' advance
- UN humanitarian team refused entry to Daraa, despite previous agreement
- Yemen security forces kill six after firing on teachers protesting wage cut
The Syrian government is using football stadiums as makeshift prisons after security forces dragged hundreds of residents from their homes.
Stadiums are being used in at least two cities - Banias and Daraa - after mass arrests were made on Monday, said Rami Abdul-Rahman, director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
Security forces broke into homes in the Damascus suburb of Modemiyah and arrested residents arbitrarily as part of government intimidation tactics used to suppress uprisings by protesters asking for reform...
originally posted by: alaskan
There's a small skatepark right in the middle of all those baseball fields, and I ride my bike through there all the time in the summer.
There's a little spot where there are always hummers/light tanks parked near a loading dock. I've always wondered what it was there for, because I've never seen anyone there. It's just a locked up parking lot with a loading dock-to-nowhere and a bunch of military vehicles, fenced off with razor wire. In recent years there've been more vehicles and they've built some structures. Put these coordinates into google maps/earth, use street view, and go past the tank... 64.842528,-147.75223
According to google maps, the place is called the "Alaska State Defense Force," and there's another building up the road that I just found out is called "Mechanical Contractors." Creepy.
There's another building right before it, I think a VFW building, with a tank sitting on the corner of the block.
All those baseball fields right there are fenced in and they all have bleachers/stadium seating and/or a watch/guard shack or tower of some sort.
There's a school to the right in the image, and a convention center to the left. The school was just rebuilt within the past few years and the playground is completely fenced in. The convention center has huge cement blocks in the back parking lot that have never been used to my knowledge, but they're the kind you see used as temporary roadblocks all. The school and the convention center are the tallest buildings in the area by far, and have a clear view over all of the fields.