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That's just ridiculous...you think there's some sort of natural phenomena that randomly transports people in their sleep? Your logic is absurd...if it's not a hoax, there's a 90% chance this is an abduction due to the fact she describes seeing UFO's around the time of the abduction, and also that there aren't too many realistic explanations. Now, to me, "alien abduction" isn't unrealistic, because there's so much that suggests aliens are or have visited Earth, and it's not something like vampires, aliens are a completely realistic and viable explanation, we would be aliens our self if we travelled to another planet populated with intelligent life. It isn't a magical voodoo concept, unlike spontaneous translocation.
I would be more inclined to believe it was spontaneous translocation or teleportation than alien abduction.
Originally posted by skyjohn
reply to post by Trueman
When she "disappears" it does look like something deflating.
But it could just as easily be a hole in the bed that someone is lowering themselves into.
The whole "video can't be converted" story is rubbish, it would be easy to copy it using a TV capture card.
Originally posted by dethduck
Wow, where to begin.
Firstly, the assertion of an "alien abduction" is just absurd. There is absolutely nothing in that video to suggest anything of the sort.
Secondly, the minutes long diatribe at the start (why does every youtube poster think their videos need ' production value'?) stating claims that the video cannot be transcoded on a pc, as previously pointed out is just ridiculous. As well, the statement that somehow video recording a monitor increases "validity" is ludicrous to the extreme. As most modern lcd "tvs" have inputs for pc video and must modern video cards have tv compatible outputs, without being shown what is exactly connected to the tv we have only the poster's word as to where the video we are seeing is originating from.
Third, this whole episode can quite easily be duplicated and hoaxed. Hell, stage magicians have been doing it for decades when their assistants "disappear" through a trap door inside a box, which coincidentally seems more likely what happened here. I suspect there was some type of hydraulic lift that lowered the individual when they "disappeared" while their "sleeping" partner slid a board of some sort over the opening to prevent the blankets from falling through.
Certainly, seeing the way they "reappeared" could definitely been the "abductee" being lifted back up through the opening. By the looks of it faster than anticipated. Their "partner's" rolling on their side (thanks for the butt-shot *cannot be unseen!*) could have easily been to mask the sliding back if whatever was used to keep the blankets from falling in the opening.
But that's just me.
Either way, if I was to believe there was something paranormal here I would be more inclined to believe it was spontaneous translocation or teleportation than alien abduction. And mind you, I actually believe in alien abductions, but I'm just not seeing it in this.
Still, interesting video.
Originally posted by WhizPhiz
reply to post by dethduck
That's just ridiculous...you think there's some sort of natural phenomena that randomly transports people in their sleep? Your logic is absurd...if it's not a hoax, there's a 90% chance this is an abduction due to the fact she describes seeing UFO's around the time of the abduction, and also that there aren't too many realistic explanations. Now, to me, "alien abduction" isn't unrealistic, because there's so much that suggests aliens are or have visited Earth, and it's not something like vampires, aliens are a completely realistic and viable explanation, we would be aliens our self if we travelled to another planet populated with intelligent life. It isn't a magical voodoo concept, unlike spontaneous translocation.
I would be more inclined to believe it was spontaneous translocation or teleportation than alien abduction.
edit on 31-3-2011 by WhizPhiz because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by korathin
Prove it. IF you claim it can easily be hoaxed then create a video where you try to hoax it and then we can compare and contrast. Till then we just have a post by a person who claims that they could hoax it but refuses to offer proof to their statement.
I know what you said, but you're statement about spontaneous transportation being more likely if this were real, is silly, I was simply pointing that out.
You'll note the immediate line before what you quoted states "IF" there was something paranormal, not that there was.
Alien abduction isn't more absurd than teleportation, but "spontaneous teleportation" which magically brings them back to the same spot after a reasonable amount if time is considerably more absurd.
And seriously, how is "Alien abduction" any more or less absurd than teleportation?
Uh huh.
I would be more inclined to believe it was spontaneous translocation or teleportation than alien abduction.
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I did not say that spontaneous teleportation was more likely than alien abduction.
There is nothing in the video to suggest aliens, but some deductive reasoning and logical analysis of this video is quickly boils down to 2 possibilities. And they are: hoax, or alien abduction. To say she spontaneously teleported out of bed for no apparent reasons, and then returned over 10 minutes later, is just really illogical and ridiculous.
Basically, because there is nothing there to suggest aliens were at all involved, not because I believe that either of these explanations apply to the video in any likely way.
No, you artificially degraded the validity of one explanation by grouping it with completely absurd hypotheses.
I offered one absurd explanation for another, nothing more.
Uh huh. I'm failing to see your point here outside of trying for whatever reason to claim I didn't mean what I said.
Originally posted by WhizPhiz
reply to post by dethduck
Uh huh.
I would be more inclined to believe it was spontaneous translocation or teleportation than alien abduction.
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I did not say that spontaneous teleportation was more likely than alien abduction.
Right. Deductive reasoning and logical analysis makes alien abduction a logical and reasonable likelihood. More so than any other outlandish explanation like teleportation, which for some reason you seem to think is some personal gospel of mine when it was meant to be just another example of how ludicrous claiming alien abduction was.
There is nothing in the video to suggest aliens, but some deductive reasoning and logical analysis of this video is quickly boils down to 2 possibilities. And they are: hoax, or alien abduction. To say she spontaneously teleported out of bed for no apparent reasons, and then returned over 10 minutes later, is just really illogical and ridiculous.
Basically, because there is nothing there to suggest aliens were at all involved, not because I believe that either of these explanations apply to the video in any likely way.
Which was the point that apparently I failed to get across. They are both ridiculous explanations. Neither is logical or reasonable. But you are welcome to your opinion, even if you feel I shouldn't be welcome to mine.
No, you artificially degraded the validity of one explanation by grouping it with completely absurd hypotheses.
I offered one absurd explanation for another, nothing more.
Originally posted by Trueman
Step by step :
1.- A covered balloon or a plastic bag full of air.
2.- The "husband" releases the air in it.
3.- Same guy open a valve under his pillow to refill the balloon or bag.
I would advice the OP to change the title since it's 100% debunkable.
Originally posted by defcon5
She was simply sleeping facedown on her knees then went into a prone position making her just as flat as her husband sleeping next to her in the supine position. Later on they both roll over to their left sides making both more visible again. Not faked, but also not paranormal. Additionally, the movement/pixilation stuff above her on the bed is normal for crappy IR cameras (we see it all the time in sleep labs), and I believe it relates to thermal variations in the room.
Working in a sleep lab, I am pretty used to judging body position looking at crappy IR security camera footage.
originally posted by: DarthPhobos
What !! No little grey men seen fleeing from the scene, I gotta say, im very disapointed at not seeing these little bugers reach through the window to grab their prey. They obviously knew the camera was there, so they had to do the old, "Suck them through bed" routine whilst maintaining invisibilty mode.
God damn what a bummer