Mafia

Do you think the Mafia really still exist. Because you really never hear anything anymore about about Mafia familys.

Ummm.. they do but in very low numbers... The reason you dont hear about them, 1 they are the Mob, they want to be on the low, 2 in the late 80s early 90s the US goverment craked down on them and locked alot of them up. 3. They where pwoer hungry and killed each other off.


It also depends on what Mob your talking about, there are a couple of diffrent ones, Im sure your talking about the Italian mob.

I russain Mob just got popped here in Chicago like three months ago.

what mob did Al Cabon belong too.

Yeah the Italain Mafia is a shadow of their old self but they are still out there for sure.

The Red Mafia on the other hand has never been stronger the fall of the Soviet Union was a breeding ground for the Mafia over there and they have expanded quite alot.

Originally posted by alias101
what mob did Al Cabon belong too.

Al Capone? he was his own man, he ran his own mob, here in chicago.

[edit on 23-7-2004 by SpittinCobra]

Originally posted by alias101
what mob did Al Cabon belong too.

Al Capone AKA Scar face? Although he was born in NY I think he was mainly located in Chicago

The mob, mafia, italian mafia, what ever you wana call it aint nothing compared to the CIA. The CIA runs this country and can exert itself in any way it wants and if they want to take out mob members, they definitely got their numbers.

Sorry but every time my friends talk about mafias and how tough they were, I try to make them realize that there is bigger, badder and more hardcore organizations out there like the CIA who can crush mafias by the palm of their hand.

Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
The mob, mafia, italian mafia, what ever you wana call it aint nothing compared to the CIA. The CIA runs this country and can exert itself in any way it wants and if they want to take out mob members, they definitely got their numbers.

Sorry but every time my friends talk about mafias and how tough they were, I try to make them realize that there is bigger, badder and more hardcore organizations out there like the CIA who can crush mafias by the palm of their hand.

You amuse me, you really do.

While the U.S. mainland hasn't really experienced this much (yet), in Hawaii, organized crime is very quiet but very real and dangerous. Two things tend to make the type of organized crime in Hawaii diferrent than what most Americans are used to: (1) The foot soldiers are totally expendible, not part of the "organized" part and will do anything for the organization [including any act of violence or crime]. You may be asking, "how is this possible?" The answer is ICE - crystal methanphetamines in smokable form. Addicts, besides paying the dealers, also do favors for the dealers, becoming (in the language of domestic servants such as Police and Ambulence drivers in Hawaii) "ICE Warriors" - this has the beneficial side effect of never looking like it is part of some "organization" - just mucked up ice heads getting in trouble. (2) They are VERY high-tech, VERY subversive and launder money straight into legal ventures.

DANGEROUS CRAP LADIES AND GENTLEMEN... THE CRYSTAL METH PROBLEM MUST BE DEALT WITH!

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
Ummm.. they do but in very low numbers... The reason you dont hear about them, 1 they are the Mob, they want to be on the low, 2 in the late 80s early 90s the US goverment craked down on them and locked alot of them up. 3. They where pwoer hungry and killed each other off.

Not really right, I guess you just assumed. I have to admit, you rarely spot news about mafia.

Mafia and mafia family's are still busier than any time before but their positions in society have improved and made it hard to catch them or prove them guilty.

Nearly the whole drug trafficing into the USA is controlled by the sicilian mafia while the russian mafia and it's pendants so Ukrainian mafia etc have specialised on all kinds of financial frauds.

The russian mafia is still active in drug trafficing from Asia and gets the money into the EU via a route through turkey, macedonia, kosovo etc. especially with support of the UCK.

The Nigerian mafia is, who wonders, kinda the working mafia. It's the people selling drugs at train stations and in city ghettos. They act as sub-mafia/reseller for especially Sicillian and Russian mafia.

The Triades from China so the Chinese mafia is still very family persistent. Their main job is money laundering especially with the help of typical chinese business over here: restaurants & laundry services.
In their home countries and abroad they collect protection money in masses unlike other mafias.

The Yakuza from Japan isn't just a mafia. It has political influences and assets worth a few billions. There are a few info sites about them, I suggest you read up there.

In Europe the Yakuza are entering legal business by using the money they "gathered" from their home country. They even have legal offices.

Originally posted by DeltaNine

Originally posted by kyateLaBoca
The mob, mafia, italian mafia, what ever you wana call it aint nothing compared to the CIA. The CIA runs this country and can exert itself in any way it wants and if they want to take out mob members, they definitely got their numbers.

Sorry but every time my friends talk about mafias and how tough they were, I try to make them realize that there is bigger, badder and more hardcore organizations out there like the CIA who can crush mafias by the palm of their hand.

You amuse me, you really do.

I tell it like it is

Originally posted by alias101
what mob did Al Cabon belong too.

Capone ran an usual kind of mob in Chicago. I say unusual because Capone didn't strictly keep his organization all Italian as most mafioso did. Jake Guzick, a Jew, attained the position of number two behind Capone and Alex Gus, a Greek, held a similar position later on.

The mob is still out there, but the numbers are way down. Part of the problem is newer generations seem to take the law of silence or Omerta as a joke and when arrested they sing. Sammy the Bull was the first big name to do so and there have been alot of others.

Also, the relative decline in Unions also has played a role in thier decline.

[edit on 26-7-2004 by FredT]

About 10 years ago I was involved in my community fighting off an industry that was environmentally not sound at the time. The contract was worth millions. One night I got an anonymous phone call from a concerned citizen to advise me I was up against the cosa nostra (is that how you spell it?) I had never heard the term. The caller thought I was doing a great job but I was too young naive and idealistic to have any clue what I was messing with.

Needless to say, I am still alive. Oh, and I did keep them out of my town. I now live in another state. A few months ago (before I found ATS) in a weekend moment of boredom I decided to do a webseach on the "players" from that time. Well, that Co is still going strong and they have big contracts in the state I now live, actually pretty close to me. Fine, I just want a life and I assume the technology has been update (it had potential).

That monday morning I left to go to work and there was a dead rat smack in the middle of my doorway.

I'll never know.........but just in case, no more web searches about them from me.

I honestly don't see how they still can survive, but i'm not on a struggle for surivial!

Originally posted by shoo

The Triades from China so the Chinese mafia is still very family persistent. Their main job is money laundering especially with the help of typical chinese business over here: restaurants & laundry services.
In their home countries and abroad they collect protection money in masses unlike other mafias.

The Yakuza from Japan isn't just a mafia. It has political influences and assets worth a few billions. There are a few info sites about them, I suggest you read up there.

In Europe the Yakuza are entering legal business by using the money they "gathered" from their home country. They even have legal offices.

The triads are actually huge into smuggling, both human cargo and otherwise. Protection and smuggling are their big cash cows in America, but they remain restricted mostly to Chinatowns and costal cities. I hear Vancouver has particular problems with them.

The Vory v Kazone (russian mob) aren't a mafia in a traditional sense, either- they operate almost entirely in and around prisons. They smuggle drugs and weapons into prisons, providing amenities in eastern countries that the correctional systems simply can't afford. If you want to survive in a prison in Russia, you're in with the Vory.

As for the Yakuza... they are so ingrained in Japanese culture, it's painful. They even police some areas, the locals joke. Yakuza operations include blackmail (particularly soyaika), a bizzare system of prostitution, and fraud. The largest gumi rakes in about three billion dollars annually, and rumors abound that yakuza money helped found at least one major industrial concern in Japan. Now, those corporatiosn have brought the yakuza with them to our shores.

With eastern crime, you have to rememebr that these groups are hundreds of years old, much older than the sicilian mob. Read up on them, because the Sicilians are hanging on by a thread.

DE

Originally posted by alias101
Do you think the Mafia really still exist. Because you really never hear anything anymore about about Mafia familys.

Yes it exists, at least it does here in Northeast, Ohio. Three or four years ago two brothers named STROLLO who ran the Youngstown area went to prison. They supposedly had strong ties to the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Mob.
The Mahoning County Prosecutor, Gains, survived an assassination attempt a couple years before that.
The Ex-Congressman from the area, James Traficant, is in federal prison in Pennsylvania for, among other things, "alleged mob ties".
You might look at the website AMERICAN MAFIA which is run by a guy named Porello who is " a veteran Cleveland-area police officer with Mafia roots ".

www.americanmafia.com...

[edit on 26-7-2004 by rawiea]

the reason they are not all over the news becasue they do not touch drugs and protsiutes .they are all protection rackets i read a book about how they started and then read one about london gangs you can tell y they are not around now.

I have heard on the news that here in norway there is a smal real mafia grop, but police tryed to stop them. And there is some small grops that call them self mafia but they aint a real mafia, youst wonebees

no it could be becasue i the book i was reading they have diffrent branches of the mafia tree like in america the main man went to there and they were drug filed and women beating pigs and he was so discrasted he give the head fo american mafia the kiss fo death but it could happen in norway im not sure .