American pride banned at the Olympics!

all this is is europe bending to the terrorist. all of europe is a bunch of pussies.

Umm.......

NO!

You have absolutly no clue what you are talking about!

Originally posted by thematrix
As a belgian, I'm 100% behind being proud of your nation. Belgians are at least as much patriotic and proud of their country as any other nation.

Matrix, are you a Fleming or Walloon?

Ok this hit a nerve, Umm lets see "Do Not waive the American Flag" Why Not?? We are there participating in the tradition of "The Games" not our political, religious or any other beliefs and besides it's time all AMERICANS start showing thier pride all over the world. Not to sound obtuse but screw the rest of the world. We are the United States of America we some how have been elected by the world to protect those in need and to feed all the starving and medicate all who are sick. In a nutshell if we cant show our pride and waive our flag then screw it, Build a wall around the United States, close off all its borders, pull all its funding from every spineless little country out there and invest it back into the people who deserve it " The American's."

Oh yeah and if you dont like America.. please take all your relatives and just get out, go back to whatever or wherever you originated from.

This is how we should fly our Flag at the olympics:

Originally posted by AntiPolitrix

Originally posted by rai76
Yes, and this is all thanks to you beloved President!

Ok...here we go on another detour. If my beloved President hadn't gone to war, Saddam would still be killing his own people by the thousands, he would still be crapping on a gold toilets while hundreds of thousand of Iraqi people starved to death, he would still have the capability to supply a terrorist group like al-queda with chemical weapons to attack America or Europe. He had chemical weapons and we will find them. It doesn't take very much of a chemical weapon to kill millions if used right. Saddam had six months to hide these chemicals in a desert the size of California. That is a huge area, think about it. Set your hated for Bush aside and really think. Could you hide 1000 1-liter bottles of chemicals in a sand box the size of California? Of couse you could, ecspecially if we gave you SIX months to do it. Come on people, think, stop hating and think. You make me sick

First off all I agree with you something had to be done to Sadam, but they also could have done it different. But I am sure Bush wanted to do the job daddy couldn't do. I am also sure that Bush started this war for oil reasons because of his oil friends, that is the only reason, because he isn't really interested in Irak, only because of their oil! Your country is ruled by big Republican companies, also oil ones and that is sick in my opinion.

I am also sure soon they will find out that there isn't and wasn't any relation between Sadam and Al queda and cerntainly not giving them chemical wapons, because he doesn't have them anymore, since a long time. The only chemical weapons you will find are the one America placed there to tell everyone, see we were right!

Before this war Europe had almost nothing to do with terrorist treath from Al Queda and now we are afraid everyday something will happen. I live in the Netherlands and you have a yearly event which is very populair. Yes I know it sounds stupid, but people walke for 4 days several kilometers, it's also very know outside of Holland. Now, everyday, everyone was talking that they were afraid for a terrorist attack, because of alot of people in one place. This is what my concern, the result of this ridiculous war that your president started. A tiny little country that is afraid of terrorist attacks. Before you say that my country is also taking part of this war, I see yes, I also hate my own goverment for that.

No, I do not hate your country, only the one's that's ruling it. Sorry for my English.

It always turns into Bush Bashing. I could post a thread about how good peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are, and it would turn into Bush Bashing. It's nauseating now.

As for the topic: If they do wave the flag in celebration of winning, as so many countries do and have always done at the Games, what's gonna happen to them? Will they be shot on sight? Will they be imprisoned? I think they should do whatever they have always done at the Olympics, just as all countries should. It's sport, not politics. It's supposed to be the one time all these folks can get together in the spirit of competition and have a good set of games. Wave it and see what happens, I bet it won't be anything. Personally, I think that if Americans win an event and wave the flag to celebrate, and anyone in the audience boos, they should be removed. How 'bout that? *L*

It's about good sportsmanship, not politics. Who cares who likes us? There's countries we don't like but we're not gonna boo them if they win and wave. It's rediculous that it's even become an issue.

It's just great that my grandfather, who fought in WWII, gets to live to see a day where we force our athletes to hide thier pride in the country that they fought to defend. I applaud the Olympic officials, and the gov't goons who handed down the orders, for thier courage to step up and say enough with the patriotism, enough with the celebration, enough with the self pride and home pride. The olympics are not about representing the best your country has to offer, it's about showing how nuetral we are, and how unnoffending we are. We'll show the rest of the world, you'll see. America is the land of the shame and the home of the bland.

Oh, btw, I'm being sarcastic before someone starts to yell at me.

Originally posted by AntiPolitrix

Originally posted by mpeake
You're right, terrorist and other anti American nations just started hating us within the last 4 years. Bush started the whole movement so he must be responsible

I hope your not serious, "anti American nations just started hating us within the last 4 years". Where do you get your info? They have hated us for a LONG time, as long as we have been involved with Israel. They will always hate America and there is Nothing we can do.

That is another one, because of America's support Israel can do what they want and continues with this stupid wall. They haven't learn anything with that rediculous war.

Clinton, tried to search for a solution, but he failed unfortunatly. What is Bush doing.....nothing then just busy with his oil friends to devide the oil parts and who is rebulding the infrastructure in Irac.

It always turns into Bush Bashing. I could post a thread about how good peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are, and it would turn into Bush Bashing. It's nauseating now.

Hah! Very funny! Very true also

Originally posted by TACHYON
This is how we should fly our Flag at the olympics:

That put a smile on my face Thank You

And Kazomo says "who the eff cares"....WE DO!!!

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rai76 Why dont you find another thread to post your "Bush bashing on" This topic is about waiving the american flag at the olympics and discussing reasons why our athletes were asked not to waive the flag. I feel your comments are valid but should be posted underneath the correct thread.

Thank you

When I first came to the US, I was amazed at the number of flags people were flying. It seemed that almost every house had a flagpole with the Stars & Stripes fluttering on the top. As I thought of this, I realised that the Americans still have pride in their flag, whereas the Union Jack has been denigrated by racists and the PC brigade.

My best wishes go to the Americans who have pride in their flag and respect it and what it means - I just wish that more people in the UK would tell the BNP and the PC brigade where to stuff their stupid ideas and then fly the Union Jack with as much pride as the Americans fly the Stars & Stripes.

Originally posted by torque
I could post a thread about how good peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are, and it would turn into Bush Bashing.

I love PB & J sandwiches. Since I'm expected to turn this comment into an anti-Bush rhetoric, "I've never seen a PB & J sandwich choke on a pretzel or fall off his bike"

Pisky, that's because there's a cover-up. An elite group of agents whose sole priority in life is to maintain the illusion that PB&J sandwiches are flawless and never make mistakes!

Wave the flag I say. Wave it. Just don't roll it up and wet the end and pop the other athletes with it in the locker room. And don't use it to sell things. Just wave it.


Peanut Butter is sold in those little plastic jars. What happened to the glass ones. The new ones have that funny foil under the lid, with little numbers stamped on it

Some kind of subliminable message.

And of coarse, grape jelly is a key component of THAT Korear's new-cue-lar program.

I like bush. Not his policies. Him. And I'll tell you why. He's not slick. He may be rich, but he's just some guy from management. He doesn't use focus groups like Bill did. (That explains why his policies are not more focused.)

He don't hardly care if he looks ignernt. He jess does stuff.

Of course I'm from the South, too; so I can sort of understand him better than many of you can.

I'll tell you how he becomed governor of texas: He sounds like a cashier at Walmart, and so peoples dis-underestimates his intelligence. He caused a revolution in the way Texas gub'mit is runned. And he did it without blathering on and on in the media. (Seriously, Texas is looking at a Republican majority in its legislature for the first time since it joined the Union.)

He is intelligent; just not verbose. If you look at the way he ran his oil interests, you'll see that he was an extremely shrewd manager and investor; making more money for his family than anyone since his great-grandfather.

I had a friend, another elected official, who put it this way. Bush is popular in the South because he isn't on TV every day. People in the south saw Bill Clinton every night on TV. He was over exposed. And people who were originally neutral grew to hate clinton. A good politician is like a good cop: Never there unless you need him. No one wants to see squad cars driving in front of your house all day long. It scares you, and looks like a police state. People only want to hear from the president when something needs fixin. Yankees loved Bill because he could talk. Southerners love Bush because he doesn't. He just fixes thangs that.

And as they say in Texas, "if it ain't broke . . . don't break it."

dr_strangecraft,

I think the Bush team should have you run their campaign in the south. I think that might actually be the first time since i joined ATS that anyone has ever brought up the positives in Bush. It's kinda weird just reading your post becuase of how different of a veiw it is here.

If all my fellow Americans are so writhing mad over this, DO SOMETHING!

I would suggest everyone hear send angry letters of protest and spread the word to friends and family so they can also raise a big stink about it as well. Once the Olympic comission is bombarded with angry pissed off people protesting thier absurd and ridiculous policy, maybe they just might change thier friggin tune.

As has been said before, its not like waving the American flag can make people hate us anymore. They have hated us regardless, and for the longest time. And our own Olympic commission is giving into them. They are the real disgrace. Not the multitude of countries that hate us. Our own commisioners have turned on us as well.

So screw the commision. Let those athletes wave those flags after a long hard victory.

And # anyone, foreign or domestic, that has a problem with it.

Antipolitrix:

Wow....damn...let me sit down. Ok, you are a blind fool. Your hatred is clouding you judgment. Do you know anythink about chemicals? No, you don't.

Yes, I DO. The idea that you can hide 2000 litres of chemical weapon (let's say Sarin gas) in 1litre bottles in the desert shows you have no idea what you're talking about. These things have to be kept at certain temperatures, in secure containers and THEY DEGRADE OVER TIME. Read something.

You know nothing about pride. You know nothing about Patroitism.

I know how to spell em. Both.

You are what is wrong with America, if you are from America. If not, im sorry for the pothetic country your from.

Haha, whatever. Solid logic. And it's pAthetic country YOU'RE from. Diction, pal. Don't feel sorry for me, I'm doing well. Don't feel sorry for my country, Canada, because I get treated like royalty everywhere in the world that I go.

Where are you from? Sounds like France because i doubt you have ever stood up for what you believe. You have a bad attitude Jakomo. Stop hating and start understanding.

Start making sense and not going off half-cocked insulting people.

Patriotism is more than a flag, but I'm not expecting you to understand that. I'm actually not expecting you to understand much of any of this.


And FYI: how about instead of whining and complaining you actually DO something about it? You know, exercise your democratic right and all that. Isn't this link from MAY?!


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[edit on 23-7-2004 by Jakomo]

Originally posted by KrazyIvan

we need europe to be taken over by some dictatorship so we can free it again and show europe that they owe there current free status to the united states. any european disagree with me?

No, what we really need is for Europe to be taken over by some dictatorship (pinko or muslim), except this time, we take pleasure in leaving them there.

If there is any future dirt chewing and gut spilling to be done to keep those fruitcakes free, they can do it with their own loved ones and resources. They (England and very few others excluded) were not worth the great sacrifices made the second time (first time for that matter). Freeing most of central Europe was just an unfortunate by-product of breaking the Nazi regime which many of them collaborated with and whose ideaology they endeared (many still seem to, to this day).

If those representing us in the Olympics are too ashamed to show some pride about where they're from, they don't need to be there (I don't care how damn talented they are at whatever they do).

To be honest, I would'nt count on us taking home too many golds this time around anyways. It's no big secret that the Olympics are even more politicized than the Oscars, and I can all but guarantee you that our athletes, as well as those from countries supporting the war effort, will have their performances judged against a much higher standard than athletes from nations that did'nt.

Originally posted by Eastern_Diamondback
Matrix, are you a Fleming or Walloon?

I'm flemish, why?

Thank You AntiPolitrix, who is Jakamo, is he a person we should nuke?

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