prostitution should be legalized

I'd hate to live in a society that views women as disposable objects. Of course, it's pretty much already like that. Prostitution is dehumanizing. A woman's sexuality is no longer valuable. A woman's body is now an object to be used up for the pleasure of men. It's a complete lie that prostitution 'empowers' women. The reality is the complete opposite. I suggest reading 'Sexual Suicide' by George Gilder. It was written in the 70's but predicted spot on what would result from feminism and the woman's sexuality being reduced to that of men's. Women in the past were sexually superior to men and lived by their biological long-term sex drives.

I am honestly sickened that some suggested that they couldn't care less if their female loved ones, i.e their daughters, entered the sex industry. My heart would be completely shattered if my parents thought that way about me. That would mean they have zero respect for me and don't care if my body is used up by hundreds of men, including old men, fat men, and men with bad hygeine.

Another thing, just like with the abortion issue, women are once again viewed as helpless children. Everyone has the "poor baby..." attitude towards women who CHOOSE a degrading, risky lifestyle. I'm sick of people crying for laws to be changed to cater to deadbeat women while men are held to a much higher standard and are actually treated like adults.

As for the "prostitution is the oldest profession in the world" argument, what is your point? The Bible is thought to be the oldest text in the world, does that somehow legitimize it? I thought our society was supposed to be progressing. I'm somewhat content that our fastly deteriorating western culture is being wiped out. If it's not replaced soon, then the western world will be full of accepted beastiality and pedophilia practices. I'd be willing to bet MILLIONS on that claim.

To those who claim 'getting paid for sex is no different than any other profession', you are delusional. Prostitution requires no skill, education, or learned craft. It only requires willingness to degrade yourself for some of the lowest of humanity. Sex is a very special, unique bonding experience with another person. It's the most intimate experience you can have. LIFE is created through sex. And to put a price on it and give away yourself to any bum or deadbeat all for money says a lot about one's character. Have some pride and value your body.


"They're gonna do it anyway" is NEVER a good excuse to legalize something. That could be said about absolutely anything

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Any society that would legalize mass murder of pre-born children really should not have a problem with prostitution. However, imo, two wrongs don't make a right.

That's true, but the government feels abortion is right so it really isn't "two wrongs" to them.

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Prostitution does not cause aids infection. On the contrary, prostitution that is regulated will also be subjected to curtain demands and rules. Rules like protective gear, like a condom and a hygiene standard to uphold.

Aids is spread by having unsafe sex. The overall majority that have unsafe sex are adolescent teens and young adults, especially in this time and age where aids has shifted from a deadly disease to a chronic illness. All be it only in the western hemisphere.

So any western chick that decides to be a prostitute with a brain follows safety procedures.
For third world nations this is a whole other debate, since aids is a community problem especially under poor people, and guess what ? Most prostitutes happen to come from these poor communities.

In the Netherlands aids has been in an upward curve because of youngsters having unsafe sex. No longer afraid of the disease aids and apparently willing to face a life long illness.

Prostitutes here however are mostly aids free not only because of personal hygiene protected sex and others, but also because they are aware of the dangers and let themselves be tested on a regular basis.

The fact is you will must easier be infected with any STD or aids by your neighbor then by a prostitute that works in a regulated business.

I would not choose to have sex with a prostitute cause I need more then plain lust to enjoy myself 100 %, but I can understand why there others that are willing to pay for it.

The only sure thing with a prostitute is that you know she's gone bukake all the way, but with you next door neighbor you will never know for sure.

So please not aids or any other STD has anything to with prostitution, and where there is a risk that is where prostitution is still illegal, making it a back alley sinister thing.

Of course there will be girls taking advantage off, only in the dark illegal scene these girls will be on their own and they will find themselves on there own not noticed by up town folks firmly in the grab of a pimp or someone worse.
In a regulated scene these girls will be easier to identify and without the fear of being prosecuted themselves the prostitutes form the first line of defense when they see abuse or illegal prostitution. If it is not because they care it will be because those girls would otherwise steal there customers.
Speaking of them... People that will choose to visit those girls that are forced will also be uncovered and they will also be facing charges as they are committing a crime.

My personal view is that people should be able to choose to visit a prostitute or be one. There will always be a market for sex our history and present show that pretty obvious. I am 100 % sure I rather see a safe and regulated sex scene then a scene that plays behind closed doors and dark alleys.

Originally posted by unityemissions
There is tremendous moral reasoning why it should be kept illegal, and society should shun those who partake in the act. The more partners the average individual has over their lifetime, the weaker our species becomes, because the potential for spreading pathogens increases. I'm not even going to mention how prostitution breaks up a good many families. The line of reasoning you present is merely naive at best, and downright criminal at worst. Think it through. Peace.

Sigh.. You're talking about illegal prostitution handled by criminal scumbags (aka pimps). Do you really think a government sanctioned whore-house would allow the poor health condition seen on the streets?

Just check out the elite 'escort girl' services. They all have strict internal policies about safe sex and they routinely have std-checks for the girls.

To your 'prostitution breaks down families' argument: Correlation does not imply causation. If you think a little bit more about it, it's the moral stigma attached with illegal prostitution that breaks down families, not prostitution in itself.

Anyway, prostitution is already legal. It's called the pornographic industry.

Originally posted by Mentalistbee
reply to post by TheAmused

 

Lol when tax time comes ;

Contreceptives

Condoms

Don't tell the government. The taxman will hit those items hard, like gas taxes now.

Originally posted by HarmonicNights

I am honestly sickened that some suggested that they couldn't care less if their female loved ones, i.e their daughters, entered the sex industry. My heart would be completely shattered if my parents thought that way about me. That would mean they have zero respect for me and don't care if my body is used up by hundreds of men, including old men, fat men, and men with bad hygeine.

Well if they do it right why would they have to have sex with old and fat men? They can decide what they want and maybe their parents just feel it's their body and they can do what makes them happy and or successful financially.

I think anyone who wants to legalize prostitution is sick. It it is not where society should be heading its a step backwards in every possible way as far as i can see.

I think prostitution is on the borderline with rape. You pay to rape a woman thats basically what it is and it makes me sick. If you support it i think you a very perverted person.

I'm not sure where i stand on legalizing it because i know making it illegal will not stop it from happening. Its hard thing i'm on the fence for that one

Originally posted by unityemissions
There is tremendous moral reasoning why it should be kept illegal, and society should shun those who partake in the act. The more partners the average individual has over their lifetime, the weaker our species becomes, because the potential for spreading pathogens increases. I'm not even going to mention how prostitution breaks up a good many families. The line of reasoning you present is merely naive at best, and downright criminal at worst. Think it through. Peace.

Free will is the most important thing in human civilization.

To take away free will should be the sin.

What falls into the category of violations of free will?

Manipulation of others.

murder

enslavement

blackmail

jail


Sometimes these people do these things because they HAVE to in order to feed their families. Keep in mind we ARE in a recession with the dollar on verge to collapse.

If free will ruled, and people were aware not to violate free will. No one would commit crimes. The bottom line is, No one wants someone to get into their business.

You talk about morality? The true immorality is those who limit humanity to think for themselves. This is the only way Human will be able to ascend. To accept people despite their differences and choices. We need to learn for ourselves.

How many times did you get angry at your parents for telling you what do to? Yea yea I know, they try to protect us. But it causes anger none the less, a negative emotion. Negativity is what brings chaos into the world. negativity sparks up fear.

Do you see the logic with this?

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No harboring any resentment towards women whatsoever, was trying to prove a point that anybody can say anything with a believable premise and one could legitimately argue it AND tie it in to popular culture I love women, many actually. Not one has ever complained, and no they weren't drugged

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
I think anyone who wants to legalize prostitution is sick. It it is not where society should be heading its a step backwards in every possible way as far as i can see.

I think prostitution is on the borderline with rape. You pay to rape a woman thats basically what it is and it makes me sick. If you support it i think you a very perverted person.

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Do you even know the definition of rape or do you just like to sprout the seeds of your close-mindedness with big words?

Female prostitutes are consenting to have sex for the money. The completely opposite of rape.

Originally posted by TheAmused
There is no legal or moral reason prostitution cant be legal.

Here is the way I see it. If an adult, wishes to sell her body, and is not being forced into it by someone, then, I say, go for it.

What we have to be careful of and who we have to protect, are the people who ARE forced into such things. Minors are often a prime target for pimps and there needs to be laws in place to ensure that people are not being forced into selling their body.

But like I said, if an adult chooses to prostitute on their own...Be my guest.

Originally posted by Liberterius
reply to post by Darkphoenix77

 

No harboring any resentment towards women whatsoever, was trying to prove a point that anybody can say anything with a believable premise and one could legitimately argue it AND tie it in to popular culture I love women, many actually. Not one has ever complained, and no they weren't drugged

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Reminds me of my favorite pick up line. "Excuse me, does this rag smell like chloroform?" An old joke to be sure, but still funny.

Originally posted by BiGGz
Yea, legalize prostitution and have an epidemic of AIDS and STDS. That'll be great.

Herps anyone?

Actually you have that backwards.

If prostitution was legalized,

1) Women or men in the business would be required to get a health check, thus preventing them from working if they do contract disease.. Currently they do not, so STD's spreads.

2) Women in the business are treated poorly, have their money stolen, beaten and can not go to the police, but if it were legalized they would be able to avoid much physical, financial and mental harm.

3) If they actually paid into the system, many of them would at least have Social Security later on in life.

Because of the trade they choose many people see them as sub-human, the so called moral majority has their heads buried so far into the sand, that logic is replaced with emotion and religious dogma's.

Deny ignorance.

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by Evanzsayz

 

As an ex-sailor I can give one reason. Spend 90 days or more out to sea with no release in sight. Paying for it is much better than wasting time trying to pick up some chick who doesn't even speak your language. Dollars are an international language, gladly accepted anywhere in the world.

In 2001, I attended the Mahakumbhamela festival in Allahabad, and stayed in a makeshift ashram, where I was privvy to a special celebration where there was a gathering of the most celebrated Brahmins. I was told that as a woman I needed to stand back because these Brahmins had been celibate for so many years that even the sight of a woman up close is difficult for them to hold their celibacy. This is a true story.

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Yes but that is just YOUR opinion. It is not invalid but neither is the other side of the argument. The point is it is not a decision that the federal govenment should make for the masses.

Originally posted by jonibelle
Originally posted by HarmonicNights

maybe their parents just feel it's their body and they can do what makes them happy and or successful financially.

So money is more important than your daughters dignity? It wouldn't bother you at all that all sorts of strange men are buying and using your daughter? That shows how much you value your children. Would you also support someone if meth or heroin is what made them happy? It is, however, what they chose to do with their body.

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Going to keep this fairly short and simple and never return.

No. Keep it illegal.

Originally posted by Liberterius
reply to post by Darkphoenix77

 

No harboring any resentment towards women whatsoever, was trying to prove a point that anybody can say anything with a believable premise and one could legitimately argue it AND tie it in to popular culture I love women, many actually. Not one has ever complained, and no they weren't drugged

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Okay, it just seemed like it was a verbal punch in the face to all women......my bad...guess I just misread it.

Originally posted by Darkphoenix77
reply to post by XRaDiiX

 

Yes but that is just YOUR opinion. It is not invalid but neither is the other side of the argument. The point is it is not a decision that the federal govenment should make for the masses.

I personally think the govt should not be in the business of forcing the masses to purchase health insurance either.

It should not illegal but it should be frowned upon... like masturbating on an airplane lmao.
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