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What caused the horrible explosion of Challenger? UFO? or what was it that happand?

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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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I would say that there is something very wrong about this one, a lot of things dont make sence.I have been thinking about what the hell happend that day since the explosion. I couldent get this picture of my mind and the story of why it explode is just pure bs. Here is another thing that made me think about this story again, I want you to tak a notice of the date this was posted and what it is saying. Now I would like to clear this out once and for all, why did Challenger explode?

This was posted in 2000 and its a bit creapy to read, I get the feeling of that the person wrote this was doing it in panic? I would like to know what he/she really knows! Link follows at the end. you tell me if this dont make you feel sick!


THE explosion of the Space Shuttle CHALLENGER in Feb of 1986 was no accident.As I've stated in a few other stories There are occult forces working everywhere in the world and the space agency NASA is no exception.First of all have any of you readers of this story ever taken a close look as to why the shuttles are named why they are?
I have and it is but another symbolical Occult language they use and Ill explain in detail.First The names of the shuttles. 1.CHALLENGER 2.COLUMBIA 3.ENDEAVOR 4.DISCOVERY 5.ENTERPRISE 6.ATLANTIS SYMBOLOGY is very important to the mystery religions of babylon,they speak in an ESOTERIC language.ESOTERIC means HIDDEN or OCCULT from the root word OCCULAR meaning hidden from the eyes.Now I'll explain the symbology of the shuttle names. 1COLUMBIA is the name of Washington D.C. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.Our Federal Govt is Instrumental in Bringing about A NEW WORLD ORDER 2.ENTERPRISE is the name the Mystery Schools give to their great "plan" Manly P. Hall refered many times to the great plan as the ENTERPRISE. ENDEAVOR is the labor required of the ADEPTS of the Mystery Schools to complete their plan. DISCOVERY is the QUEST to find the great philosophical empire.FREEMASONRY is a Philosophy as well as a Religion. ATLANTIS is the name of that Philosophical Empire.One only has to study the old legends of atlantis and you will find out that atlantis was the ruler of the ancient world. When you put the names of the shuttles in a sentence you find a symbolical occult plan.COLUMBIA in a great ENTERPRISE will ENDEAVOR to make the DISCOVERY of ATLANTIS.

Finally the CHALLENGER was destroyed symbolizing the people in this world hwho will CHALLENGE their plan for world Govt or the "NEW AGE" they dreamed of for the last 2000 years.The people of this world need to open their eyes,Occult forces including FREEMASONRY have been working for centuries to build a world government which they will control.

The only thing that stands in their way is the American people,and they are working at a fast pace to destroy this country.I have a comment in the form of a question.
How many of you people have studied the occult as long as I have? I have built a miraculous Library on the subject.Some of my volumes are extremely rare and have cost me a fortune to buy.If you can't give a qualifed response don't respond to this.This world is in grave danger.The forces working behind the scenes to create a world government care not about how many lives they take.Human life means nothing to them.In fact if you arent a member of the mystery schools you are referred to as being "profane", and a "usless eater" by them.Another sceme of theirs is to kill off half of the human population the "inferior races" wake up!


www.unsolvedmysteries.com...







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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Poor inspections, faulty gaskets,
Sorry no conspiracy is my opinion



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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The evidence shows that the shuttle was a major failure of an under enginnered part that had no fail safe system in place.
The failure was caused by the weather on the morning of luanch being to cold, which caused the o ring in the field joints to fail.



Forecasts for January 28 predicted an unusually cold morning, with temperatures close to 31 °F (−1 °C), the minimum temperature permitted for launch




The engineers at Thiokol also argued that the low overnight temperatures (18 °F (−8 °C) the evening prior to launch) would almost certainly result in SRB temperatures below their redline of 40 °F (4 °C). Ice had accumulated all over the launch pad, raising concerns that ice could damage the shuttle upon lift-off.



Thiokol engineers argued that if the O-rings were colder than 53 °F (12 °C), they did not have enough data to determine whether the joint would seal properly. This was an important consideration, since the SRB O-rings had been designated as a "Criticality 1" component—meaning that there was no backup if both the primary and secondary O-rings failed, and their failure would destroy the Orbiter and its crew.

quoted from here
en.wikipedia.org...
see section on pre-launch conditions.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Another thread was taken down on the same subject a few minutes ago.
If this goes down also, there is something big to this.
I have never considered this but i will,
and i await to see what happens here.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Is it to far fetched to think that this could have been a simple case of human error.. Always remember this, Everything that has been put together by human hands will at some point fall apart.. Not everything is a conspiracy..



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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The other thread was stopped because it was more about the missle getting shot down with lasers, not the shuttle, so the mods moved it to the exsiting thread about that., but now its just about the shuttle it should be fine

unless theres already a thread about this, then it might get closed and moved to an exsisting thread



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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There is so much in this story that never been told, I think it not one single truth other that the explosion
And if you think this crazy thinking I want you to remeber 911 and what you think about it now! They have a sick sence of playing with words and riddles to amuse them self. No everything is not a conspiracy but loking back on different events makes me think twice before I belive what I been told in the past about almost everything!


www.Williamhenry.net...

illuminati-theater.blogspot.com... lenger-in-1986-versus.html

www.teotwawkii.com... BV23vw%3D&tabid=36&mid=407


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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38
Another thread was taken down on the same subject a few minutes ago.
If this goes down also, there is something big to this.
I have never considered this but i will,
and i await to see what happens here.


It could possibly be taken down because it is complete bs. I am sorry guys but the shuttle has over a million moving parts. Sometimes things go wrong.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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I agree that 911 leaves a lot to be answered, but to suggest that every thing that goes wrong is a conspiracy
911=lots of questions, challenger=bad accident.. but thats my opinion.
Did you read the wiki article on the shuttle? even the guys who made the srb's didnt want the launch to go ahead because they were scared of a failure .. but they got over ruled , so if theres a cospiracy then its the fact that more people didnt get done for negligence at nasa.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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at the time there was another story than today, they are changing facts and erease what ever they want. Who would gain on the explosion? the moment you start to learn about Challanger are you gonna have some questions? I am just saying...
Let me say this: we dont know S! How come som much things goes wrong and the timing is so perfect according to earning from an accident or killing? do you really think they give a ... about anything when you think about it?
I am gonna put in som time to this and will get back to tell you if and when I find something to tell you about

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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by liejunkie01

Originally posted by pshea38
Another thread was taken down on the same subject a few minutes ago.
If this goes down also, there is something big to this.
I have never considered this but i will,
and i await to see what happens here.


It could possibly be taken down because it is complete bs. I am sorry guys but the shuttle has over a million moving parts. Sometimes things go wrong.


Undoubtably things go wrong sometimes.
Sometimes things go wrong intentionally.
It is wise to question Everything.
This is a conspiracy website so calling BS is not a valid reason to take a thread down.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by stavis
reply to post by liejunkie01
 


at the time there was another story than today, they are changing facts and erease what ever they want. Who would gain on the explosion? the moment you start to learn about Challanger are you gonna have some questions? I am just saying...

I am gonna put in som time to this and will get back to tell you if and when I find something to tell you about

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I was in school watching the launch live. I have studied the Challenger for a long time. You need some serious evidence to back up this claim. I am not talking about somebody's edited youtube video either. The facts are out there. If you choose to ignore them, then that is on you.

This is only my opinion so please do not get offended. I think you need to put your investigative resources into a much more open ended subject. The Challenger explosion has been answered with scientific data and facts to back up that the "O" rings failed due to extreme temperature exposure. There is nothing to refute this evidence. The flame shooting out of the SRB straight towards the External Fuel Tank explains it all my friend.
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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poor inspection? yeah right.. faulty gaskets same.. no-one would rush an inspection when it could jepodise the lives of innocent people.. in my opinion the shuttle was blown us by forces beyond our understanding ( at this time anyway) as a warning to stay out of space.. hell we'd be on the moon and beyond by now and we could be if we hadn't been told to stay out of space.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Heres some photos of the launch of the challenger.
in the first photo you can see the smoke from the failing seal as it starts to launch
the second clearly shows the flames escaping
once the booster failed it cuased the breakup of the main tank and the aerodynamic forces then ripped the shuttle apart.
further investigation seemed to suggest that the crew cabin survived the breakup and that some of the crew survived untill they impacted the ocean
May they rest in peace
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www.gkweb.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38

Originally posted by liejunkie01

Originally posted by pshea38
Another thread was taken down on the same subject a few minutes ago.
If this goes down also, there is something big to this.
I have never considered this but i will,
and i await to see what happens here.


It could possibly be taken down because it is complete bs. I am sorry guys but the shuttle has over a million moving parts. Sometimes things go wrong.


Undoubtably things go wrong sometimes.
Sometimes things go wrong intentionally.
It is wise to question Everything.
This is a conspiracy website so calling BS is not a valid reason to take a thread down.


It is ok to call bs when there is more than enough evidence to back up a claim. The op lists a few edited youtube video's made by who know who. There are times when conspiracies just do not fit with what really happened.

This is a conspiracy site. Thank you for reminding me again. But you need sufficient eveidence to make a remarkable claim. I have seen sufficient evidence explaining what hapopened on that doomed flight.




This is a conspiracy website so calling BS is not a valid reason to take a thread down.


This is where our views differ. I believe that intentionally spreading false truths and accusations is more than enough to scrub some topics. Especially when the motto of the conspiracy site is "DENY IGNORANCE."
This kind of thing only spreads lies and misinformed "information" on what really did not happen.

Remember just because it is a conspiracy site, does not mean that everything is a conspiracy.
Look at the facts and remember to deny ignorance. This is the first step in finding the truth. Sometimes you have to take it for what it is. Like an "o" ring failing and causing a jet of super hot flame that penetrates the thin skin if the external tank and igniting the fuels and O2 in such tank.



posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by believer74
reply to post by Flyzoid
 


poor inspection? yeah right.. faulty gaskets same.. no-one would rush an inspection when it could jepodise the lives of innocent people.. in my opinion the shuttle was blown us by forces beyond our understanding ( at this time anyway) as a warning to stay out of space.. hell we'd be on the moon and beyond by now and we could be if we hadn't been told to stay out of space.


Well why then did "they" keep letting us go into space? The Challenger was not the last mission into orbit. We have the space station up there now. Why didn't "they" blow it up along time ago? Your theory is seriously flawed my friend. The forces beyond your understanding is just that. Beyond your understanding. With all due respect, do some serious research into what really happened on that day. You tube is for hoaxers and people wanting attention. A good reference for some material but not alot.
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posted on Mar, 26 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by believer74
reply to post by Flyzoid
 


poor inspection? yeah right.. faulty gaskets same.. no-one would rush an inspection when it could jepodise the lives of innocent people.. in my opinion the shuttle was blown us by forces beyond our understanding ( at this time anyway) as a warning to stay out of space.. hell we'd be on the moon and beyond by now and we could be if we hadn't been told to stay out of space.

yes history has proven that safety comes second to the all mighty dollar!


After the loss of Challenger, the engineering decisions, organizational problems and inadequate safety culture that led to its launch were criticized by the Rogers Commission and by the U.S. House Committee on Science and Technology

heres the whole chain of sorid failures
en.wikipedia.org...

and from the COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES report
page 79-80

issue
Could the accident have been caused by sabotage, terrorism, or foreign covert action?
Finding
The Committee is convinced that there is no evidence to support
sabotage, terrorism or foreign covert action in the loss of the Chal-
lenger.


Issue
failure of the joint between the casings?
Could the accident have been caused by some failure other than failure of the joint between the casings?
Finding
As of September 15, 1986, the Committee has not found any cred-
ible evidence to support any cause of the Challenger accident, other
than the failure of the aft casings joint in the right-hand Solid
Rocket Booster.

www.gpoaccess.gov...



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Don't you think that we would have bases on the Moon or even Mars by now then? with all the technological advancements since the Apollo missions? hell, my xbox has more computing power than an Apollo rocket.. Yes we have the ISS (in CLOSE earth orbit) and satellites (most of which point towards the earth) and Google space blacking out a section of space intentionally.. guessing you believe what you are told by official sources?



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by believer74
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Don't you think that we would have bases on the Moon or even Mars by now then? with all the technological advancements since the Apollo missions? hell, my xbox has more computing power than an Apollo rocket.. Yes we have the ISS (in CLOSE earth orbit) and satellites (most of which point towards the earth) and Google space blacking out a section of space intentionally.. guessing you believe what you are told by official sources?


Exactly, I can tell you for nothing that after the Challenger disaster they stopped non-astronaughts applying for space missions.

All because of the lame excuse that because a teacher was on board when it went up, it was too dangerous for civilians.
NASA logic for you



posted on Mar, 30 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by believer74
reply to post by liejunkie01
 


Don't you think that we would have bases on the Moon or even Mars by now then? with all the technological advancements since the Apollo missions? hell, my xbox has more computing power than an Apollo rocket.. Yes we have the ISS (in CLOSE earth orbit) and satellites (most of which point towards the earth) and Google space blacking out a section of space intentionally.. guessing you believe what you are told by official sources?


I believe that there could be a possiblity, but....I have yet to see any evidence for these bases. Remember we went to the moon to fight off the communism illusion of power. Not because we wanted to out of the kindness of congress. In an age of broke countries we can arely even afford the space station. I think that money is the reason you are looking for us nbt going back. If we do have a moon base, I would love to see some evidence for this, until then I have no option but to follow the facts. Speculation is cool and all, but it is not the truth. I know that Nasa is corrupt. This is nothing new, but saying aliens shot down the Challenger when the problems have been documented and there is even video to prove it, is a little different than the computing power of the Apollo moon missins. That was nearly five decades ago now. Of course the technology today is better.

By evidence, I do not mean an over edited Youtube video.




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