Depleted uranium: a strange way to protect Libyan civilians

Depleted uranium: a strange way to protect Libyan civilians

In the first 24 hours of the Libyan attack, US B-2s dropped forty-five 2,000-pound bombs. These massive bombs, along with the Cruise missiles launched from British and French planes and ships, all contained depleted uranium (DU) warheads.

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Its funny, how we are in Libya to protect the civilians, but we are dropping depleted uranium that will effect those people for years to come (just take a look at the birth defects in Iraqi after the invasion - after firing over 200 tons of radioactive material in the country)

Man, it gets scarier by the day...wonder what will come of all this.

We soon shall see.

reply to post by MidnightTide


The article is garbage. We don't use DU in our bombs.

We use DU in armor piercing rounds not bombs or missiles.

DU is used as an inert kinetic penetrator. Bombs and missiles are not inert and use explosives to penetrate targets.

I live about 6 miles from where they manufacture these things..The company General Dynamics has polluted the local lake and now they recommend that people not fish or swim there..I hate this crap..WHY are some humans obsessed with destruction???

reply to post by Neopan100


Manufacture what things?

DU rounds for tanks and autocannons?

Or bombs that don't have DU in them.

They have got to get this population down to a manageable level so they will use any and all ways to do this...

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by MidnightTide

 

The article is garbage. We don't use DU in our bombs.

We use DU in armor piercing rounds not bombs or missiles.

DU is used as an inert kinetic penetrator. Bombs and missiles are not inert and use explosives to penetrate targets.

Quoted for truth, the article is nonsense.

Nothing to see here..

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by MidnightTide

 

The article is garbage. We don't use DU in our bombs.

We use DU in armor piercing rounds not bombs or missiles.

DU is used as an inert kinetic penetrator. Bombs and missiles are not inert and use explosives to penetrate targets.

Sorry, but you are wrong. We have many missile and bombs coated with DU. Ever heard of bunker busters?

www.rawa.org...

Please dont post lies.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


Your article only has speculation about the components of a type of bomb we supposedly used in Kossovo over ten years ago.

It then goes on to talk about DU rounds, which are fired from cannons and not bombs.

There are no facts that show the BLU-109 to have DU used in its construction. There is a lot of speculation though and speculation isn't truth.

Too add, I am aware of the patents, which discuss possibilities, the actual systems are said to use tungsten in its composition.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

Your article only has speculation about the components of a type of bomb we supposedly used in Kossovo over ten years ago.

It then goes on to talk about DU rounds, which are fired from cannons and not bombs.

There are no facts that show the BLU-109 to have DU used in its construction. There is a lot of speculation though and speculation isn't truth.

edit on 26/3/11 by MikeboydUS because: edit

I'm glad there are people like you here on ATS!

Until there is proof exactly what types of bombs are being used, and that in fact there is DU on/in them, everything else is speculation and should NOT be stated as fact.

Conjecture is like a runaway train around here.

reply to post by James1982


So don't post anything? It may, or may not be true what is being said in the article....but it still needs to be said. Do people take anything with a grain of salt these days?

If things had to be hard proven fact, then this site would be empty.

reply to post by MidnightTide


We have systems enroute, like the AC-130 Spectre and AH-64 Apache gunships which can use DU rounds in their cannons.

If I was worried about DU in Libya, I would keep an eye on developments involving them. The bombs I wouldn't worry about.

Note thats "can use" not will use. Its not likely they will use them as PGU-20 rounds for the GAU-12 are being phased out and the Apaches normally don't use PGU-14 rounds.

Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by James1982

 

So don't post anything? It may, or may not be true what is being said in the article....but it still needs to be said. Do people take anything with a grain of salt these days?

If things had to be hard proven fact, then this site would be empty.

edit on 26-3-2011 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)

Well no, I never said you shouldn't have posted this.

I was pointing out that people shouldn't just immediately take this article as fact. DU is very rarely used in bombs and missiles, as the other poster stated it's used in shells. So the article is dubious at best.

reply to post by MikeboydUS


it is an anti tank round(M829a2)..and others I suppose. To be honest, I don't know much about the company other than what is said in local newpaper, explosions heard from the plant or hearsay. The plant is contained deep in a large reserve and is totally restricted. We cannot even see the plant from the highway. You have to have a pass to enter the reserve and I don't have one on my car. You can view the plant from google earth..and the large lake that the company has polluted.

I really don't know much about all the kinds of weapons/guns/cannons/etc. Im a girl so it may be a girl thing. I just know that the company gets a lot of "talk" around here for some of the stuff they make and how they make it.

Non nuclear Bunker buster bombs do not used DU as they are penetrating earth, concrete, or rock.
www.howstuffworks.com...

The only bunker buster bomb that carries DU is the B61-11 with a tactical nuclear warhead.yield 1 to 15 KT
then DU is no problem as the nuclear bomb is the main radioactive source.
www.globalsecurity.org...

DU is only good for penetrating steel or other metals.

Non nuclear Cruise missiles do not contain DU

All the US cruise missiles were tested at China Lake and on ranges not permitted for DU use.

China lake does have DU contamination in some gun test areas that are permitted for DU (main base ranges)but not in cruise missile test areas.(Randsburg wash ranges)
IE cruise missiles do not contain DU.
The state of Calif requires the military to test for toxins on all there ranges.
www.chinalakemuseum.org...

The only cruise missiles that have DU in them are nuclear cruise missiles and the DU is used in small amounts in the nuclear warhead.
This is not a DU problem because the radioactivity from the DU is miniscule when you are talking about a nuclear weapon

Maybe the jet fighters are SHOOTING some projectiles that use DU ??

Maybe some ground forces on both side have these weapons ???

NOT U.N. forces, Libyan forces (both sides)

some people think the "rebels" are foreign mercenaries ..... are they "foreign" supplied also ????

could they be using U.S. supplies ??????

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Specifically, the British-built Harrier jets used by British naval air forces and also by US Marine pilots, are often equipped with pod-mounted cannons that fire 20 mm shells--shells that often have uranium projectiles designed to penetrate heavy armor............

The US military is fond of DU weapons because the material, made from uranium from which the fissionable U-235 has been removed, because it is extremely heavy, and, in alloy form, also extremely hard. Because of its mass, such projectiles can penetrate even the heaviest armor. Then, in the heat caused by the collision with an object, the uranium bursts into flame at extreme heat, causing an explosive (and toxic) inferno inside a tank or other vehicle, which usually also ignites any ammunition being carried. Soldiers inside a target vehicle are incinerated. The problem is that the resulting uranium oxide produced by such explosions, besides being highly toxic chemically, is also a microscopic alpha-emitter, which if inhaled or ingested by human beings is extremely carcinogenic and mutagenic.

www.thiscantbehappening.net...


Possible at the very least.

AND why WOULDN'T they us these "effective" and "result producing" weapons ?


here's a "wilder" view : www.sovereignindependent.com...

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by MidnightTide

 

The article is garbage. We don't use DU in our bombs.

We use DU in armor piercing rounds not bombs or missiles.

DU is used as an inert kinetic penetrator. Bombs and missiles are not inert and use explosives to penetrate targets.

They lined US vehicles with DU in Iraq. The Saudi's wouldn't let us use their land to transport them on the way out. The use of DU in military applications is well documented, it would not surprise me if they used it on tips.
It's plentiful, it's effective and it becomes an asset instead of a liability. They dump it where they can.

reply to post by Trublbrwing


We didn't line vehicles with it.

Your thinking of the M1 Abrams main battle tank. DU is part of the armor package.

Also, bombs do not have warheads. They are a large Steel case filled with explosives. They can screw a fuze into either end.

Penetrator bombs have a solid steel cone screwed onto one end.

The only DU item I have ever seen used is a Discarding Sabot, (Pretty much a large lawn dart) That has no explosive components, that is still intact after firing. It will be mangled up but still one piece.