many roswell clippings - coverup? damn looks like it

Okay sorry if the clippings have been seen before, i didnt get any of my clipings from ufo sites, i got them from old newspaper reports around july 1947, it took a long time, and even longer to crop off the parts needed, and then upload as jpegs, and of course they arent `new` articles they are 50 plus years old but im hoping `new` as in new to most people. please note ive deliberatly not included the newspaper articles which are most commonly shown on roswell threads, also ive embeded the whole section, so you may need to scroll across for the relevant newspaper article

Theres so much here, first it is apparent there were a ton of ufo sightings in the months leading up to it,
examples here (and yes i am just getting warmed up.. there is far more juicy stuff to come )

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Okay, and theres many more like that.. but id rather not focus on it for now, as thats not my point

Next we have the reports of the roswell incident!

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next, yet ANOTHER confirmation they have disc.. interesting note it says 509th bomb squad took posession of it.. hmm has that been looked at before?

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this report says the air forced actually stated they are not `test military experiments`

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and now we get onto the cover up, its so clear that theres a huge disinfo campaign

first of all we start off with a clear back tracking by eyewitness, who gave recovered material to the army, who now comes out and says they were just `rocks `pfft! if they were just rocks why was he not arrested for wasting military time.. i mean this excuse is laughable

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Next we have an eyewitness who claimed to have seen the crash and a dead small body, who also seems to have suddenly decided thats not what he saw (strange isnt it)

i quote `navy and army began a concentrated campaign to deny rumous`
why would they be so bothered and start a campaign
anyway here is the first official denial story...

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and finally i found a host of stories in the papers around then, to clearly ridicule and make a joke out of it all....
seriously? a lame story of a baby blowing bubbles which got a whole street panicking thinking they were ufos come on - ridiculous

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okay so this is my `roswell research`

my conclusion?

sadly those were more innocent times, the people were much more gullible and believing of what was put out there, i find it incredible that trained military personnel would confuse a metallic craft with simple weather balloon debris.
i also find it very funny that many of the eyewitnesses, probably after a `visit` from certain people, completly backtracked on what they had seen.

Now more than ever i am convinced this did happen.

Id love to hear your opinions and thoughts

Good job but do you work for image shack?
Flag for you...

the rocks story, is the most ridiculous of all, you dont ring up the military and secret service to hand over material, plus report it to the media -- and then 2 days later claim `nah it was just rocks`!!!!

Originally posted by littlezeta
Okay sorry if the clippings have been seen before, i didnt get any of my clipings from ufo sites, i got them from old newspaper reports around july 1947, it took a long time, and even longer to crop off the parts needed, and then upload as jpegs, and of course they arent `new` articles they are 50 plus years old but im hoping `new` as in new to most people.

Hi littlezeta,

Thanks for sharing these clippings.

Do you have the dates and sources for these clippings?

What databases or other resources have you been using to get these images?

I look forward to seeing the further clippings you mention in your OP.

Starred and flagged.

All the best,

Isaac

Originally posted by IsaacKoi

Originally posted by littlezeta
Okay sorry if the clippings have been seen before, i didnt get any of my clipings from ufo sites, i got them from old newspaper reports around july 1947, it took a long time, and even longer to crop off the parts needed, and then upload as jpegs, and of course they arent `new` articles they are 50 plus years old but im hoping `new` as in new to most people.

Hi littlezeta,

Thanks for sharing these clippings.

Do you have the dates and sources for these clippings?

What databases or other resources have you been using to get these images?

I look forward to seeing the further clippings you mention in your OP.

Starred and flagged.

All the best,

Isaac

hang on i can actually upload the pdfs with the articles on, they show the full page with the dates on, can you let me know best way

reminds me of the flying saucer that crashes in man in black, happens to be at a ranch.

nice work, even if this information is out there, thanks brooo

Originally posted by littlezeta
i can actually upload the pdfs with the articles on, they show the full page with the dates on, can you let me know best way

I'm not the most technically minded of members of ATS, but I'm sure someone else here could help with that.

By the way, I'm used to using online databases that display the text of newspaper articles (the Lexis database etc) but it's nice to see the actual images of these old articles. Have you used some online database which enables you to do this? (I haven't looked into any such resources - maybe I should...).

All the best,

Isaac

okay the full page with date and times of some of them ive included here

`ufos are not army tests/secret equpiment`

you can download them free off there

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another roswell report of captured saucer

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and the ridiculous `they were rocks` coverup story

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wow! great read. Thanks for taking the time to post all of this up here! Every little piece adds to the larger puzzle!

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If I'm remembering correctly, when you copy the img tag directly from image shack, it adds the "uploaded to imageshack" part.

As far as the clips go, nice work... S&F for you. Seems to be pretty clearcut to me that there was a giant coverup, and your research seems to do a good job of concisely proving it, at least from the perspective of the news at the time.

Originally posted by littlezeta
okay the full page with date and times of some of them ive included here

Thanks for posting the full pages. It makes it much easier to work out the context of the article and look into things further.

I'm still unclear as to how you found these clippings and I find the story behind the work done to be an interesting part of any research. Did you have access to clippings, or look through hard copies of papers, or use an online database which allows you to access images of these old newspapers, or something else? I'm always on the look-out for new resources which may be useful in some research project in the future...

Thanks again,

Isaac

Originally posted by IsaacKoi

Originally posted by littlezeta
okay the full page with date and times of some of them ive included here

Thanks for posting the full pages. It makes it much easier to work out the context of the article and look into things further.

I'm still unclear as to how you found these clippings and I find the story behind the work done to be an interesting part of any research. Did you have access to clippings, or look through hard copies of papers, or use an online database which allows you to access images of these old newspapers, or something else? I'm always on the look-out for new resources which may be useful in some research project in the future...

Thanks again,

Isaac

yes it is a website called

www.newspaperarchive.com
membership is costly too, they want you to pay in installments of months

you can view basic pages on there but when you search for a specific thing like ufo or saucer or whatever, to view results you must be a paid member

tomorrow when i have time, im going to search it in more details

this stuff goes all from the mid 1850s to modern day

im sure theres a TON of stuff in there

by the way there seems to be SO MANY ufo reports in the weeks before roswell, its crazy

Originally posted by littlezeta
tomorrow when i have time, im going to search it in more details

this stuff goes all from the mid 1850s to modern day

im sure theres a TON of stuff in there

by the way there seems to be SO MANY ufo reports in the weeks before roswell, its crazy

Outstanding post! Please link to PDF's so we can capture and keep them. I think it would make a great reference collection for researchers.

BTW, I was hit by a virus attack on the first embedded clipping. It was blocked but there.

Originally posted by zerocd

Originally posted by littlezeta
tomorrow when i have time, im going to search it in more details

this stuff goes all from the mid 1850s to modern day

im sure theres a TON of stuff in there

by the way there seems to be SO MANY ufo reports in the weeks before roswell, its crazy

Outstanding post! Please link to PDF's so we can capture and keep them. I think it would make a great reference collection for researchers.

BTW, I was hit by a virus attack on the first embedded clipping. It was blocked but there.

really? the imageshack? im suprised its a well known site
the pdf site is a proffesional one too

and yes i will try and upload as the pdfs tomorrow, if somebody can let me know where to as for some reason i cant upload media only pictures

ive loads more stuff, including more roswell reports with more details

including more evidence of a cover up campaign

itll take me an hour or so to get it all together

is anyone still following this thread?

i just want to know before i devote the time to it

Originally posted by littlezeta
is anyone still following this thread?

i just want to know before i devote the time to it

Judging from the number of flags for this thread, people are paying attention (including me).

While I'm not convinced that the clippings you've posted provide any evidence of a coverup, I'm grateful to you for highlighting the availability of such material online. I've looked into a few archives since you posted this thread and been pleasantly surprised by the amount of historical newspaper material now available (free) online. I last looked into this issue a few years ago and things have obviously moved on quite a bit since then. Thanks to your thread, you may see a few more posts of historical newspaper clippings by me and other members of ATS.

All the best,

Isaac

I don't see evidence of a cover-up, I see evidence of newspaper reporting.

so.. here we go
what is the walla walla times? ah its washington based sounds egyptian or arabic to me ..

huge headline `flying saucer is found in new mexico`
i mean how stupid do they think we are -- its clearly stated again and again a DISC, it even says the `disc` was `inspected` by a major marcell and escorted away! i mean come on! i think if it was a bloody weather balloon, this major marcell and all the other witnesses would have realised that at first glance!!!!
ill include a picture of the section cropped,

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and a free link to download the full page for anyone wanting it

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moving right along nevada state journal

this is so conflicting, and ridiculous it makes no sense, i mean in this report theyre giving three different explanations from `originaly asumed to be a weather device` to ` a kite like object` argh! i would think trained military officers would know exactly what they saw when the initial official declaration was flying saucer!

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full clipping - prepare to get a headache from the mind boggling array of excuses
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next, the declaration roger m ramsey commander of the 8th air force that it is just a balloon, hang on.. didnt above i show a clipping where the head air force officials declared there were no military experiments balloons or arial equipment which resembled saucers??!! huh?

link to croped article

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full article here...
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note to the left of it is a huge obviously fiction joke story about men from mars/venus and rides in spaceship.. why i ask you is it put there out of the whole paper -- all part of the propeganda to make it look like a big joke!

next clipping oh wow -- `now it was a weather balloon AND A KITE` , isnt that coincidental

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and in the full clipping theres a ton of sightings around the world from around that day or so
your not going to miss this -- yet another huh how stupid do they think we are, article

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This thing is absolutly baffling!
I hope that my research, which has cost me a bit of money and taken quite some time to do, can at make it look even more reasonable to assume that there was a large cover up campaign, a massive change of stories, even conflicting excuses from different generals and majors, the fact that we know it was declared disc by the rancher who found it and the witnesses, AND the army who inspected it and escorted it with high security away...
for it to suddenly be a `weather balloon`

i ask...
why if it was a weather balloon the need for the escort
also, why do the air force clearly state there are no military tests or arial devices or balloons which resemble saucers, so you telling me even these high ranking officers got a bin of tin foil mixed up with a genuine flying saucer?

the deliberate campaign, the stories about a baby blowing bubbles and `the whole street assuming it was a ufo invasion`
the `man gives crashed saucer debris to army officials and a few days later they find out its only rocks`

you know.. its so obvious (and ive not even scratched the surface here) that there was a deliberate attempt to ridicule and hush the ufo topic

id love to hear other peoples opinions