Recent Biblical Prophecies Fulfilled or close to fulfillment w/ Links

reply to post by romanmel


Thanks! Yes, that is a great video and I too agree with your interpretations! I will definately keep my eye on Russia - considering they are advancing their armament, possibly siding with the Arab countries on Libya (as well as supplying arms to them) and generally disagreeable with Israel.

Thanks !

Originally posted by kylioneXsushi
reply to post by zeeon

 

Yes, you stated that your references could offend. I read your OP word for word. What I find offensive is that you could have chose ANY number of examples of turning away from god, but you instead chose one that pleases your own anti gay agenda. .

I also apologized in advance for those that may be offended. Who intentionally 'gay bashes' but apologizes before doing it? There are indeed plenty of examples, most of which is well known (increased adultery, pornography, murder, thiever, increasing criminal activity) but don't necessarily directly involve the church.
Homosexuality, imho can, and does. I'm not secretly bashing on gays behind an 'intellectually indifferent veil.' I simply selected what I thought was most relevant.

You misunderstood. I was selecting the Italian Renaissance specifically Italy, not the entire world. There were enough battles, political unrest, "nation turning against nation" and turning away from god "The Vatican" and toward science just in Forli, Rome, Florence, and the rest of Italy to fulfill every line. And this was easily observable by even the common person who, while likely illiterate, has it spoon fed to them by the Church. So your argument that it appealed to the individual but could not be applied to the times due to illiteracy, is an inept argument.

I did not misunderstand your analogy. I was countering it with mine. The point being is that while the proverbial peasant in Italy interprets the prophecies with what he or she sees and experiences around them in their particular locale (IE not wordly) today we see events in the larger, global picture. To me, these give the prophecies more context now, then they would have during the Renaissance.

Now I wish to clarify, that I believe that these are interesting times, we have never been so interconnected, and I believe that something unprecedented is happening in the world and that the events and disasters are unusual.

But you did touch on something very telling. We currently have such an interchange of ideas and information that these seemingly prophesied events are widely known to all the world over. But could it not be that these things have always happened and we just have enough eyes and ears open? And that we now easily share this information where before we were limited?

Now, my disagreement with you being obvious, I would like to commend you for the work and research you put into this. Even if I disagree, I am an intelligent mind and value the power of knowledge. You had no need to use sarcasm against me when I am merely bringing an obvious challenge to your belief.

You are referring to the theory of "Hyper Connectivity" - ie that because we are such a globally interconnected society that we are simply noticing events more, vice them happening more frequently. I will admit that this particular hypothesis cannot be proven or disproven yet. It is a possiblilty that this is happening.

Lastly, my sarcasm was that you attacked me for secretly trying to bash gays when my intention was only to provide the most relevant non-ambigous and current (in light of the very ambigous prophecy) context for the given prophecy.

reply to post by zeeon


Isaiah 19 comes to mind concerning what we saw happen in egypt, it is a prophecy, and in verse 2 it say's

"I will set egyptians against egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother,and every one against his neighbor; city against city and kingdom against kingdom. (there is more to come) they want a new ruler ,right? well according to verse 4 they are gonna get one, his if refered to as a cruel lord and a fierce king.

someone has already mentioned hosea 4 concerning the mass animal die-offs

then there is 2nd timothy 3 in the last days perilous times shall come.
for men shall be lovers of themselfs,covetous,boasters,proud,blasphemers,disobedient to parts,unthankful,unholy,without natural affection,trucebreakers,false accusers,incontinent(no self control) fierce, dispisers of those that are good,traiter,heady,high minded,lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God.

now go find anybody more than 70 yrs old and ask them if when they were 20 yrs old if the world looked like the above verses . cause we all know that's what is looks like now.


luke 21:25 and there shall be signs in the sun,and in the moon, and in the stars: and opon the earth distress of nations,with perplexity,the sea and the waves roaring.


now here is a prophecy that has even been fulfilled right here on this thread, many saying
" it's always been this way, there has always been wars, there has always been earthquakes.

2nd peter 3:3 knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all these things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.
5 for this they willingly are ignorant....... now why would someone want to be willingly ignorant? because they dont want to give up being the kind of people that are mentioned in 2nd tim 3

Originally posted by WALLYWORLD
I WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING HERE

IT INVOLVES ALPHA-NUMERICAL VALUES AS EVERYTHING HAS ALPHA NUMERICAL VALUES.

9/11 REPRESENTS A LOT OF THINGS....IT ALSO REPRESENTS A FRACTION WHICH IS A MATH EQUATION OF DIVISION..HINT HINT........9 DIVIDED BY 11 = .81818181818181....... AND IF YOU FIND THE 8TH LETTER OF THE ALPHABET YOU WILL SEE IT IS ..H... THE FIRST LETTER OF THE ALPHABET IS ....A.....SO ON 9/11 WE WERE BEING DIVIDED AND LAUGHED AT

HAHAHAHAHA
.81818181818181...


NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAYAN DATE OF 12/21/2012
A B B A T L = A BATTLE
1 2 / 2 1 / 20 12

ABBA ALSO = FATHER

I PUT THIS HERE BECAUSE I AM NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A NEW THREAD YET.

PRAY FOR PEACE

That is some interesting numerical relationships I haven't seen before. You said that abba = father, but which language? Also, you said that on 9/11 we were being divided and laughed at - but as I remember 9/11 caused Americans to rally together in support. How were we divided?

reply to post by infojunkie2


Wow, those are some eye opening quotations and comments. Thanks Infojunkie.

No. Just adding to what you said. Hermes was an additional prophecy that is extra-Biblical.

Prophecy stands on it's own. God draws the future into the past and we have the ability to see it two times as it comes from both directions in the 'NOW' of the moment. This ability also exists for you. You can draw your own past to the future and then watch it come back by. This is called learning from a mistake (repentance). When you change your past by making a new choice, the new future then passes you by as a new choice made as it creates a new past. God can work both directions. Prophecy is not written like a palm reading or numerology reading from a fake mystic. Prophecy is measurable and demonstrable to the letter. Even Hermes had his prophecy right.

Try to make a prophecy on your own and you will fail, or by chance, get part of it right. Now go back thousands of years and predict what is happening today as a Shepherd or fisherman on the shores of the Holy Land, lacking any science or vision of technology. Sorry, anyone is are wrong to say that prophecy is ambiguous.

Daniel 12 (transportation and knowledge in the last days)

1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise[a] will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.”

Originally posted by kylioneXsushi
reply to post by SuperiorEd

 

I fail to see why your post is quoting me. Is this supposed to be proof that I am wrong in some way?

That's good stuff. The accuracy of prophecy is astounding. It's amazing to me that anyone can miss this as proof of the accuracy of the Bible.

Originally posted by infojunkie2
reply to post by zeeon

 

Isaiah 19 comes to mind concerning what we saw happen in egypt, it is a prophecy, and in verse 2 it say's

"I will set egyptians against egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother,and every one against his neighbor; city against city and kingdom against kingdom. (there is more to come) they want a new ruler ,right? well according to verse 4 they are gonna get one, his if refered to as a cruel lord and a fierce king.

someone has already mentioned hosea 4 concerning the mass animal die-offs

then there is 2nd timothy 3 in the last days perilous times shall come.
for men shall be lovers of themselfs,covetous,boasters,proud,blasphemers,disobedient to parts,unthankful,unholy,without natural affection,trucebreakers,false accusers,incontinent(no self control) fierce, dispisers of those that are good,traiter,heady,high minded,lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God.

now go find anybody more than 70 yrs old and ask them if when they were 20 yrs old if the world looked like the above verses . cause we all know that's what is looks like now.


luke 21:25 and there shall be signs in the sun,and in the moon, and in the stars: and opon the earth distress of nations,with perplexity,the sea and the waves roaring.


now here is a prophecy that has even been fulfilled right here on this thread, many saying
" it's always been this way, there has always been wars, there has always been earthquakes.

2nd peter 3:3 knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all these things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.
5 for this they willingly are ignorant....... now why would someone want to be willingly ignorant? because they dont want to give up being the kind of people that are mentioned in 2nd tim 3

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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by works4dhs
to deniers, I would suggest that the return of Israel as a nation in 1948 is strong evidence of the truth of Bible prophecy. never in history has a people in exile returned to its land of origin and be revived.

People who believed in the Bible MADE that happen. Its not like it randomly and spontaneously happened all on its own.

Using that as proof of the truth of Biblical prophecy is like my opening a door and then saying "whoa! did you see that door open?" and pretending a ghost did it.

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not just the restoration, but the survival of the Jews with their identity and religion. the Philistines, Kenites, Edomites, Midianites, many other contemporary peoples have dissolved into history. The great pagan faiths of Greece and Rome--Jupiter, Adonais, Diana, Hermes--all vanished, as well as the norse and druid faiths.
I submit that the survival of the Jews and their faith is proof of Divine purpose.
Nearly 2,000 years living in exile. Unprecedented and unmatched.

I mean, there's nothing like self-fulfiling prophecy. I don't understand fully who is manipulating who. Mostly it is satan obviously. However then God should manipulate russians to war just to beat them? I don't know. Man should study fullfilled prophecies at first to be able to understand God's style and people's part in it.
There's a huge human factor.

Check these pics of EU symbols in Brussels:
Are elites alone fitting themselfs into some biblical possitions and why? It's crazy.
Woman riding beast, also Europa on Zeus - the bull





and babylon theme here:





Do they know they will fail? Are they consciously fulfilling this destiny?
Right now as jobless pawn in this game, I don't care much...

Originally posted by Lionhearte
The Bible is written in a way (as mentioned by another poster in this thread) to be observational. It's designed to tell you what's going to happen. Assume these are self-fulfilled or not, the Bible still states it will happen in the end of times.

Good point. I suppose it could be possible that people forcing the end times had no bearing on the "signs" from an observational point of view.

Originally posted by Lionhearte
You would be considered cheap though, I think many would agree on that - luckily the Bible isn't so one sided. It has the advantage of foretelling these events nearly 2000 years ago and assumed how advanced our technology would be to be able to see these events happening for our own eyes in the comfort of our homes.

But this brings us back to the other problem with the prophecies. They are so generalized to the experience of mankind, that they have been seen as being fulfilled RIGHT NOW, from the time of Jesus. Humans have always been at war, or rumbling towards war, somewhere in the world. Pestilence, famine, earth quakes, all of these things have been going on for as long as we have records. I dont see any "signs" mentioned that could ONLY be interpreted as happening now. No mention of anything that could only be technology from the 21st century. In fact that is the appeal. The signs are vague enough that they could be happening anytime, anywhere on Earth. Heck the list of signs in the post below yours that is purportedly from Islam is more convincing as an argument for a modern "end times" as are the Hopi end of the world prophecies.

Originally posted by Lionhearte
Jesus says to "judge by the fruit of their labor", and, if I may say so, I don't see how "judging" anyone is a sin.

Jesus asked us not to judge. More than once in his teachings. And as far as I know he did not say "judge them by the fruit of their labor," but "by their fruit you will know them." You know an apple tree IS an apple tree because it gives apples, not pears. You know a Christian is a Christian because their actions will be Christ like, rather than in contradiction to the teachings of Jesus. There is a difference spiritually between "judgment as discernment" or being able to tell one thing from another, and "judgment as condemnation."

I know I judge others too, I am not innocent, but here is what I dont do. I dont pretend that Jesus didnt tell me not to judge. He did. And i also dont believe what later "prophets" came along later and taught that by his death this requirement to BE without judgment (among other things) was erased. Jesus was very clear that there would be those who would come along after his death and they would distort his teaching. He was very clear we were to place our faith in HIS teaching. In him.

Mathew 5:17

For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Originally posted by Lionhearte
The only people who have a problem with being judged, are those guilty of their crimes. Should a man commit a murder and be sent to court, the Judge would obviously lay down the law on him, and he would be sent to jail (hypothetically speaking, we'll discuss corruption in our courts later), should he be found guilty of his crimes - however, should a man who has not done a single crime to merit a guilty verdict, he has nothing to fear - the same way a man of good fruit has nothing to fear against being judged.

This is not true. I dont care if make pretend Christians judge me, but not because of my innocence. Im not perfect. I dont care because they are not my judge. I could be guilty as all hell of something and I still would not care about the judgment of any of you. You arent the ones I have to worry about answering to, and, quite frankly, if you are judging me, you certainly arent representing God in any way superior to mine. We get right to the "beam in your own eye" issue. I only answer to God. The main difference is I am not distorting the teachings of Jesus to suit myself, and pretending MY judgment of others is ok. I know it isnt. And despite my continued failure to cease in all judgment of others, I am making progress and I do work on it every single day. I dont just throw up may hands "oh well, thank goodness Jesus died for me and I dont have to try." I know that is not true. The death of Jesus did not free you from the necessity to follow his word just because someone came along later and said so.


And the innocent do need to fear the judgment of men. Innocents go to jail all the time. Or get crucified, or whatever. Innocence or guilt have nothing to do with the judgments of men. Men cannot judge truly, that is why it was our original sin, or mistake, to think we could.

Originally posted by Lionhearte
but to be honest, you did insult his beliefs, and in a sense, you both were in the wrong. As I mentioned above, he was judging you based off your fruit, and what he saw was you attacking his beliefs, it shouldn't be a surprise to see him get defensive.

It may not be surprising, but it sure isnt Christian. That venom is his or hers entirely to own. None of the responsibility for it lies at my feet. We are each responsible for our own actions. I suggest you read the Sermon on the Mount for clarification. Jesus did not say " do not insult other peoples beliefs" in fact Jesus seemed quite out spoken on his stand on people twisting beliefs to suit themselves. And Jesus did not say, "if someone insults your ridiculous interpretation of my teachings you have the right to act like a savage animal and hate and spew bile." I read it many times, and I am quite certain he did not say that.

In fact, I do not hate the hater. I really have very little emotional concern for what was thrown my way. Im just pointing it out matter of factly that no Christian would do that, and if that person is concerned with becoming a Christian, they should go study the teachings of Jesus rather than ranting at me.

He did say however,

Matthew 7:6

6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

And I do need to work a little harder on that one.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
But this brings us back to the other problem with the prophecies. They are so generalized to the experience of mankind, that they have been seen as being fulfilled RIGHT NOW, from the time of Jesus. Humans have always been at war, or rumbling towards war, somewhere in the world. Pestilence, famine, earth quakes, all of these things have been going on for as long as we have records.

That was my point in this earlier thread on generic prophecy. Given that these signs were existent and common, even in the time that they were made, is an indication that they would not be considered fulfilled until they became notable.

Warning about earthquakes? Not much of a sign, unless the earthquakes suddenly change in size or frequency.

Warning about wars? Not much of a sign, unless there are lots and lots of them, and everyone is somehow aware of them.

Warning about a degenerate society? Not much of a sign, unless society didn't used to be degenerate.

Finally, when the foreseen end is nigh, all of these things (and more) will have to be occurring simultaneously. That's the final sign of the fulfillment.

reply to post by adjensen


I hear what you are saying. Im just saying that every generation since Jesus has essentially felt that they were the generation in which the end was nigh.

And, all of them have been wrong.

Arent you even mildly curious what civilization would look like if people had not spent the last 2000 years trying to bring about the end of the world so Jesus would come back, but instead had worked towards living the way Jesus asked us to?

I am.

oops-ski wrong tread

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Arent you even mildly curious what civilization would look like if people had not spent the last 2000 years trying to bring about the end of the world so Jesus would come back, but instead had worked towards living the way Jesus asked us to?

Actually, I think that you're allowing a very small minority of people (those who would actively work towards Armageddon) to misrepresent the whole.

If you look at Christian eschatology throughout history, the mainstream view has generally been one of wanting to see the return of Christ, not because the end of the world is something to be worked towards, but because of despair at the way that the world constantly and consistently rejects the teachings of Christ, resulting in a world that we view as unjust and unnecessarily uncivilized.

Christians have not done a very good job of fulfilling Christ's teachings, most particularly evidenced by the abuses of Christendom that is of a political nature -- when people who claim to be Christian attain power, all too often they betray their supposed ideals in order to achieve goals which have no basis in Christ's teachings.

Thus, many of us wait on the Kingdom of God as being the only way that justice and righteousness can actually be achieved. It is clear that, whether religious or secular in basis, when men rule men, bad things inevitably result.

Originally posted by nytepixels
reply to post by THEDUDE86

 

Yea I agree with the other poster, and why are even here trolling the thread about someones personal view of the bible. Just read the thread and discuss the knowledge posted, no need to mock the poster personally and I don't know where you have been but this topic is really popular worldwide considering theres about 6 different shows on 3 different networks (among other things) about such topics.
As for the original post, looks really good thanks for all the research and links. I Look foward to reading this!

He mocks because he is insecure in what decisions he has made with is own soul. I feel bad for those who have lost themselves like this. That is part of end times as well.

Originally posted by zeeon

Originally posted by kylioneXsushi
reply to post by zeeon

 

Yes, you stated that your references could offend. I read your OP word for word. What I find offensive is that you could have chose ANY number of examples of turning away from god, but you instead chose one that pleases your own anti gay agenda. .

I also apologized in advance for those that may be offended. Who intentionally 'gay bashes' but apologizes before doing it? There are indeed plenty of examples, most of which is well known (increased adultery, pornography, murder, thiever, increasing criminal activity) but don't necessarily directly involve the church.
Homosexuality, imho can, and does. I'm not secretly bashing on gays behind an 'intellectually indifferent veil.' I simply selected what I thought was most relevant.

You misunderstood. I was selecting the Italian Renaissance specifically Italy, not the entire world. There were enough battles, political unrest, "nation turning against nation" and turning away from god "The Vatican" and toward science just in Forli, Rome, Florence, and the rest of Italy to fulfill every line. And this was easily observable by even the common person who, while likely illiterate, has it spoon fed to them by the Church. So your argument that it appealed to the individual but could not be applied to the times due to illiteracy, is an inept argument.

I did not misunderstand your analogy. I was countering it with mine. The point being is that while the proverbial peasant in Italy interprets the prophecies with what he or she sees and experiences around them in their particular locale (IE not wordly) today we see events in the larger, global picture. To me, these give the prophecies more context now, then they would have during the Renaissance.

Now I wish to clarify, that I believe that these are interesting times, we have never been so interconnected, and I believe that something unprecedented is happening in the world and that the events and disasters are unusual.

But you did touch on something very telling. We currently have such an interchange of ideas and information that these seemingly prophesied events are widely known to all the world over. But could it not be that these things have always happened and we just have enough eyes and ears open? And that we now easily share this information where before we were limited?

Now, my disagreement with you being obvious, I would like to commend you for the work and research you put into this. Even if I disagree, I am an intelligent mind and value the power of knowledge. You had no need to use sarcasm against me when I am merely bringing an obvious challenge to your belief.

You are referring to the theory of "Hyper Connectivity" - ie that because we are such a globally interconnected society that we are simply noticing events more, vice them happening more frequently. I will admit that this particular hypothesis cannot be proven or disproven yet. It is a possiblilty that this is happening.

Lastly, my sarcasm was that you attacked me for secretly trying to bash gays when my intention was only to provide the most relevant non-ambigous and current (in light of the very ambigous prophecy) context for the given prophecy.

For gays, all of the Heaven and Earth revolves around what they do with their fannies. Oh well. Don't appologize for that mental problem.

Originally posted by adjensen


Thus, many of us wait on the Kingdom of God as being the only way that justice and righteousness can actually be achieved. It is clear that, whether religious or secular in basis, when men rule men, bad things inevitably result.

But its not. If we actually took what Jesus said to heart, and lived the way he instructed us to, we would not live in a horribly unjust world filled with suffering.

Look how much of the suffering in the world is caused by greed and the love of money alone. Its what America stands for, Mammon. You cannot have two masters, and there is no question which one is ours. And it aint God for the slow children in class.

The corporate form itself is pure evil by biblical standards, its driving purpose is the love of money, or profit. And do you see religious groups banding together to stop corporations from taking over the world? Nope. They would rather focus on homosexuality or some such, which neither God in the Ten Commandments nor Jesus specifically addressed. Bur Jesus had a lot to say about pursuing money.

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Which Biblical Prophecies are Recent?

reply to post by zeeon


I might add some of the Quran prophesies as well. I know the Christians think Islam is evil but amazingly they have the same types of prophecies.

PROPHECIES FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN:
1. Survival of the Jewish people and the establishment of their state towards the End Time: "And after him We said to the Children of Israel, 'Dwell Ye in the promised land; and when the time of the promise of the Latter Days come, We shall bring you together out of the various people.'" (The Holy Qur'an 17:105) Allah SWT allowed Children of Israel to enter the Land when they were freed from pharaoh of Egypt and has not broken His promise.
2. The Earth Beast: "And when the world shall come to past against them, We shall bring forth for them a Beast out of the earth who will speak to them, because people did not believe in Our Ayat with assurance." I believe this is a reference to the antichrist. This beast is able to speak and will mark people. No one will be able to escape it.
3. Yajuj and Majuj: "But Yajuj and Majuj are let loose and they rush headlong down every height (or advangate). Then will the True Promise draw near" (Holy Qur'an 21:96-97). These barbarians terrorized people in the ancient times, but their sort has not died out or perhaps, there will be people that are equal to the ancient tribes of Yajuj and Majuj. While the Holy Bible talks about them attacking Israel, the Holy Qur'an implies that these terrorists will attack the whole world on all sides of the globe.
4. The Smoke (Holy Qur'an 44:10-15)--I am still confused about the smoke a little, but it sounds like some sort of illness/biological agent that will cause suffering, but not permanently.
5. Second Coming of Jesus/Isaa pbuh: "He is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it. But follow me. This is a straight path." (Qur'an 43:61). "He will teach him the Book and Wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel." (Holy Qur'an 3:45-48). 'the Book' here must refer to the Holy Qur'an, because the Old Testament and the Gospel are mentioned after it. There was no revealed Qur'an in Jesus' pbuh time, so it must mean that he will be taught this upon his return/second coming.
6. The universe will stop expanding: current scientific theories state that the universe is expanding. At this time, science is unable to tell us whether it will stop doing so. However, The Holy Qur'an tells us that it will. Qur'an tells us that the universe will start to revert back to its original state of being. As a result, time will also start to flow backwards. (Holy Qur'an 51:47, 21:104).
7. The Sun, the sky, the stars: as the universe stops expanidng, people will start to experience confusions. One of these will be the Sun rising in the west. Stars will not be shining (Qur'an 78:8), , eclipse of the moon and sun not shining, Sun and moon becoming one (Holy Qur'an 75:7-9), black holes (gateways to other dimensions--our scientists suspect), etc.
8.The Trumpet, Super Earthquake and problems with gravitation: see Holy Qur'an 99:1, 69:13-14, 70:8, 84:3-4, 20:105-107, 99:1-6. Basically, the Holy Book tells us that the Earth will experience such big an earthquake that will cause mountains to crush down, the Earth's inner body will broke out and the Earth would be streched out. The sky will seem to fire up (Holy Qur'an 70:8, 84:3-4). Everything will probably die from all this.
9. The Second Trumpet and all dead are resurrected: as the time will be caused to go backwards and universe starts getting smaller, the generations dead will begin to resurrect, one by one to answer for their deeds (Holy Qur'an 10:45). Judgement begins as all control is with God Almighty and even our organs/body parts are witnesses against us (Holy Qur'an 82:19, 45:28, 24:24, 78:40).
10. The Angels: the angels will descend to the outstreched Earth to gather humanity and to take them to their final destinations (Holy Qur'an 25:25, 18:47, 84:19), either Hell or Heaven.

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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by adjensen


Thus, many of us wait on the Kingdom of God as being the only way that justice and righteousness can actually be achieved. It is clear that, whether religious or secular in basis, when men rule men, bad things inevitably result.

But its not. If we actually took what Jesus said to heart, and lived the way he instructed us to, we would not live in a horribly unjust world filled with suffering.

Evidence shows that it is, because of human nature. Whether viewed as Original Sin or as the product of millions of years of evolution, humans display almost universal characteristics of greed, laziness and self centeredness. Why is it so notable when we actually see someone being noble? Why do we honour heroes, and why are there so few of them?

In one of his letters, Paul notes the trouble with the Jewish Law that Christ came to fulfill -- it told us how to act, but it didn't empower us to do so. We lack the will to overcome that ingrained human nature. Christians, or anyone who wishes to follow Christ's teachings faces a similar problem, hence Christ's two commandments, "Love God, love your neighbour as yourself." It is only through the first that we are able to perform the last.

But, for whatever reason, actually upholding that seems incompatible with being in power. As I said, it doesn't seem to matter whether those governing are doing so from a secular or faith based background, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, and we see the only incorruptible one as Christ.