12 years old boy with higher IQ than Einstein developing his own theory of relativity

Originally posted by GeeGee
Kid has a bright future.

...but just because he has a high IQ, it doesn't necessarily mean he will solves the worlds problem or contribute anything of significance to mathematics or physics. The guy with the highest IQ in the world, Christopher Langan, hasn't contributed anything of significance to modern science nor the world. There are actually quite a few geniuses in history who either wasted their potential or simply were not interested in solving problems. Whether this kid will change the world is totally dependent on whether or not he is put in an atmosphere where he can thrive and whether or not he has interested. However, considering that this kid already has a PhD research position lined up...I'd say he's on the right path.

And do you know why? Perfection...
It's the bane of all super intelligent people. Never satisfied with the results they get, so they are never finished with their ideas.

I bet he couldn't sovle this problem yet:

girl meets boy, then... what?

i bet he'd look perplexed and be speechless.

he has a lot of growing up to do, girls at the biggest mystery in the universe.

I don't mean to be mean, but I think it's funny how none of the so called "child geniuses" we've seen over the past decade or two have done absolutely nothing good for humanity. Ever heard of em again?

Yeah.

Guaranteed this kid won't do anything. Will be corrupted, and let his enormous intelligence just waste. Hopefully not. It would be awesome to see someone with a gift like this actually do something good for a change.

reply to post by raistlinmajere8


they give us hope - you do not

Originally posted by jonnywhite
I bet he couldn't sovle this problem yet:

girl meets boy, then... what?

i bet he'd look perplexed and be speechless.

he has a lot of growing up to do, girls at the biggest mystery in the universe.

edit on 25-3-2011 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)

He already has a girlfriend.

Second line.

Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by wtbengineer

 

this is true , einsteins maths wasnt his strongest academic card!
I read the book Quantum recently and in this book , notes from his journals and correspondance to other physicists shows that his maths wasnt his strong point.
His theoretical thinking however was almost unparalelled

There are some myths about Einstein and his early academic career. First, that he was "bad at maths"---at the secondary school level he was a very good student. The grading system in his school was numerically inverted from more modern standards---low numbers meant superior performance. A misinterpretation may have spawned the false notion that Einstein was a school slacker. By contrast, he was very good in physics and math.

He then went on to be admitted to a high-quality university for study in technical subjects, and then subsequently earned a PhD at a major European research university.

Some people--particularly those who are less than successful at academic study---find appealing (in a selfserving way) a myth that Einstein was bad at conventional studying but blossomed into a genius.

In practical reality, everybody since 1900 who makes any useful and significant contribution to physical science has been a pretty good to excellent student in conventional academic study in the field.

Next, Einstein's supposed "difficulties with mathematics" as he described them, were the case but he was talking about the most advanced mathematics necessary for his research. He was being humble, because in this he was comparing his abilities to, for example, his friend,colleague and semi-rival David Hilbert. Hilbert was the most important mathemetician of the 20th century (perhaps with Kolmogorov) and an outrageous maximum genius.

Originally posted by Brainiac

Originally posted by unityemissions
Prediction...

Total burnout by 19 and dead before 30....


Hope I'm wrong and this kid sets the world ablaze

Not so true. With the abundance of information and the technologies available that Einstien did not have access to, he's got a wealth a WORLD of information that he can get ahold of, to feed his mind... on a continual basis...

I fail to see how your words relate to what is quoted.

Do you have something against me, personally

Take a chill pill...

It's an opinion on an online forum.

Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by mbkennel

 

Well you're free to disagree, but some of my friends who are IQ160+ know that this is the case first hand. One of these individuals had a perfect SAT score, free ride to ivy league colleges, and dropped half a semester into college because he disagreed with his professors continuously and they decided to revoke his scholarship. The guy now is head of a software developing company, and fires Incompetent PHDs at least once a year. He will be first to tell you that top universities only allow a certain amount of creativity. Any true genius would know this in their heart, IMO.

It's very likely that top universities only allow a certain amount of jerk-off-ness.

He didn't want anybody telling him he's wrong.

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Telling a teacher that their teachings are incorrect is being jerk off

LOL

You prove my point all too well!

They are NOT true intellectuals if they can't entertain differing opinions.

Who couldn't be told that they're wrong?! This guy admits to me when he was in the wrong after a reasonable counter argument has been made.

The truth is that intellectual clicks do their thing, and bury views which would cause them too much suffering. I consider a good chunk of the educational establishment to be pseudo-intellectual.

Originally posted by lammypie999

 

Well, aren;t you full of the joys of spring? his IQ has been calculated at 170, therefore oficially and catagorically a genius

Not only is the method of scoring childrens IQ completely different to adults, have an IQ of 170 means nothing, it means your simply good at what ever puzzle they gave you, I'm not surprised an autistic kid was able to solve various patterns and puzzles, in a childrens test.

Originally posted by lammypie999
you then go on to state the all he has is a good memory, look up the definition of what is IQ,

Oh yes, lets look up the definition of what an IQ is.

An intelligence quotient, or IQ, is a score derived from one of several different standardized tests designed to assess intelligence. The term "IQ" comes from the German Intelligenz-Quotient. When modern IQ tests are constructed the median score is set to 100 and a standard deviation to 15.

An IQ is a score rated on a bell curve which shows your score relative to the average scores of others.

Originally posted by lammypie999
it is the ability to learn

You clearly have no clue about what your talking about, I suggest simply googling an argument before trying to debate it, because you will always lose if you don't even know what it is.

Originally posted by lammypie999
which, correct me if I am wrong, is pretty much having a good memory, can;t learn if ya can;t remember.

Of course, however, there's a difference between knowing your times tables and knowing how to calculate them.

Originally posted by lammypie999
Your attack on this child and his abilities is needless and smacks of jealousy, why not just accept this story for what it is, a super intelligent kid that may or MAY NOT go on to acheive great things.

Why would I be jealous? No, it is not a super intelligent kid, as I have already demonstrated, he doesn't know (like you) what he's talking about, he claims to have a college astronomy education when he makes dozens of fundamental mistakes, people are talking him up saying his going to revolutionize science, when he is not, how can you if you don't even understand the basics?

Your attack on this me and my argument (ad hominem, you did not address my actual argument, instead, you simply said I was jealous, hypocrisy much?) is needless and smacks of a fundamental misunderstanding of elementary science and a dogmatic devotion to sensationalist news. Isn't the caption to this website "deny ignorance"? Then why believe everything the news tells you? I find this website very ironic, people claim to be "truthers" when their actions prove otherwise.

Like the other two posters, I suggest you educate yourself before dogmatically defending him again.

reply to post by circuitsports


lol

Did I even imply that I wanted to give you hope? No.

I was just pointing out that the COUNTLESS amounts of child geniuses that I've heard about, none of them have done anything worthwhile to save or help humanity. Sure, they are genius. BUT WHAT HAVE THEY DONE.

What I mean is... WHO CARES. Dude is smart. Cool. There are a lot of smart people out there who have done MUCH more to help humanity than this 12 year old media circus.

Originally posted by Deran
Didn't he say it the other way around? I'm sure that's what he meant. But yes, 0/1 = 0. 1/0 = infinity.

Uhh, no, 0/1 or 1/0 is undefined, it is not a number, nor is it infinity.

Originally posted by TKDRL
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edit on Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:46:47 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

the existence of this pic is quite easily explained.

To majority of pre-calc students 1/0=meaningless. To many post-calc students 1/0=infinity. In each case, majority doesn't question the logic behind it because at most schools it's just one of those RULES SET IN STONE, not meant to be questioned, just memorized. Another example: many algebra students know that a negative number multiplied/divided by another negative number is positive, but even more of them have no idea as to why.

The reason why pre- and post-calc students perceive the infamous 1/0 "differently" or rather know as two "different" rules is because of how education system is set up. All the math you ever learn up to the final years of high school is in preparedness for the introduction to the study of Change. The knowledge of concept of function is crucial to that subject and it's typically introduced in a PRE-CALCULUS course. Now anyone who studies functions eventually comes face to face with dreaded 1/0 . Typical explanation for this is given in the course of explanation of concept of LIMITS which is part of CALCULUS. Since we are talking PRE-CALCULUS here the typical answer is- "1/0 is meaningless. it`s just a rule, just memorize and forget about the whys."

Originally posted by Jerry_Teps

Originally posted by Deran
Didn't he say it the other way around? I'm sure that's what he meant. But yes, 0/1 = 0. 1/0 = infinity.

Uhh, no, 0/1 or 1/0 is undefined, it is not a number, nor is it infinity.

The limit of 1/x as x -> 0 is infinity. Satisfied? In layman's terms, that's about the same thing.

Originally posted by TKDRL
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edit on Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:46:47 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

LOL - We had a company Ten Pin Bowling match yesterday, you know what my team was called?

Divide By Zero

Yeah we were the nerds there (coders/engineers/scientists)

On a serious note, this dude will grow up, and hopefully is not tainted enough, may go on to provide something wonderful to the world (hopefully) or come to a point in his life and realise that hold on a minute, I want to experience a relationship, feel wanted and want other people, enjoy being a parent and just slow things down a little (most of us "weirdo's" have done this now).

Salute

en.wikipedia.org...

a wiki post about high IQs, seems 230 is the highest.

Originally posted by circuitsports
reply to post by raistlinmajere8

 

they give us hope - you do not

Just playing devil's advocate, but with as many people go around believing themselves to be essentially everything under the sun, from creators to those in charge of their own destinies, we can't give ourselves hope? We need others, or in this case, 12 year-olds to? As far as the U.S. goes, we're still drastically lacking in academics, so if all the burnout stuff above is true, the scale's only being tipped in his favor a few more years, unfortunately. Then again, since he's playing with the big bang theory now (and from the sounds of his quotes in the article), he'll probably be one that feels he's in control of his own destiny anyway, so who knows what'll happen. Suppose it's not for our speculation.

Concerning the comment on hope though:
"You can not depend on man for your happiness. You will ALWAYS be disappointed"

I'll change that to:
"In the physical world, at least, you can not depend on anyone but yourself for your happiness. Try otherwise and you will ALWAYS be disappointed"

Much better

Originally posted by Jerry_Teps

Originally posted by Deran
Didn't he say it the other way around? I'm sure that's what he meant. But yes, 0/1 = 0. 1/0 = infinity.

Uhh, no, 0/1 or 1/0 is undefined, it is not a number, nor is it infinity.

first off 0/1=0 and 1/0= the result goes to infinity.

"undefined" means that there's no corresponding value for x.

a graph of a function which is 1/0 is undefined because there's NO LIMIT. the graph goes to infinity. there's no value for x.

if a function of certain x is 0/1 then it's defined for that x.

These kind of people are operating on an intellectual level us norms can only stare at in wonder.

reply to post by Vitchilo


Just becuase his IQ is high doesnt make him smarter or more intelligent than einstein IQ test is a joke