'Heaven Is for Real': One boy's astonishing account

'Heaven Is for Real': One boy's astonishing account

today.msnbc.msn.com

Colton Burpo, 11, and his parents say the boy visited heaven during a near-death experience, where he sat on Jesus’ lap and met his great-grandfather and the sister his mother miscarried.

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The only comment I have at this time is the following:

MSNBC and /or MSN (news hosted and put up on MicroSoft Network) seems, ESPECIALLY lately, a bit too toooooooooo "friendly" towards "Alternative News" ..............

Seems like I have to add more commentary to post this...

Um, well, at the moment, the only additionally commentary I want to add is.... What do you all think???

today.msnbc.msn.com
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reply to post by Confusion42


Well I'd like to think it's real!!!

Wish there was a way to know for sure. I suppose that's why it's called faith.

another desperate attempt to keep a dieing faith alive, i think we've moved passed an ancient form of mind control and transcended into propaganda,celebrity and money,get on your knees and pray to your new god

Originally posted by CUJOCREEP
another desperate attempt to keep a dieing faith alive, i think we've moved passed an ancient form of mind control and transcended into propaganda,celebrity and money,get on your knees and pray to your new god

The reason I made this post is for peepz to maybe explain or enlighten me on why Microsoft be promoting / making so much "Alternative News" lately...

My cause for making this thread is absolutely unrelated to my religious (or lack of religious) views [*The previous statement means at the moment my ACTUAL religious views are not in any way actually shared or available on this site or any site]

The fact that the mother has wrote a book about it discredits it in my opinion but theres still a few things here and there about the boy that makes me think that it could be real.

reply to post by CUJOCREEP


Hmmmmm no.....theres a lot of theories about near death experiences and a lot of stuff that even baffles scientists.

reply to post by Confusion42


why do i have to constantly spoon feed people what im saying,is the chem trails and flouride taking hold? is it worse than i thought? i think noone understands eachother anymore like charly browns teachers n parents, what i said was plain english and paralleled your topic with an answer you were seeking,well might not be THE answer you were seeking but it was my stand point and was well on topic,re read it again and again till you get it

reply to post by Confusion42


I say he is 11 and has a very good imagination.

His neurons were firing away.

I was born on Christmas. I used to think that maybe I was the antichrist.

Then I opened my eyes for the first time and decided to think for myself and not rely on 2000 year old stories that have been edited more that the NY Times sunday edition. How come when someone like David Koresh says he talked to god or Jesus, peopel say they are "rabid" and need put down. When "innocence" says that they talked to Jesus or God, everybody jumps on the praise Jesus bandwagon?

Just my .02.

Thank you, Lj01

reply to post by Viking9019


i know 2 people who have died,and came back, one was shot 5 times with a 12 gauge if u can imagine that ha ha, and lived the other had severe artery lacerations,they both said the same thing, never be afraid of death its total peace but they never said any of that crap,they just said they were out in darkness with no worrys

Um, yea, ok, um, yea, your crazy man

Indeed I am not 11 years old

Indeed I do have a good imagination and indeed your ignorant

Sorry, I do apologize for calling you ignronaant, in fact, how about I offer you a chance to instantanisly prove whatever the hell you wrote below; if you can in any way shape or form prove your writing I'll admit whatever it is...

Now, for the smart people reading this, I, Mr. Confusion 42, (who seems to be confusing some people), will only write the following ONCE:

Whatever I post, whatever I write, etc. has ABSOLUTELY NO BARRING ON MY OWN BELIEVES

Read: I aint gonna actually discuss what I MYSELF belive until a way later time period in my ATS "experience"

_____

Anyhow; absent ignorant minds whom want to attack a news poster instead of even discussing what the news poster posted....

I ask as I did in the Original Post ..what do you all think about this news?

Nobody here

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Confusion42

 

I say he is 11 and has a very good imagination.

His neurons were firing away.

I was born on Christmas. I used to think that maybe I was the antichrist.

Then I opened my eyes for the first time and decided to think for myself and not rely on 2000 year old stories that have been edited more that the NY Times sunday edition. How come when someone like David Koresh says he talked to god or Jesus, peopel say they are "rabid" and need put down. When "innocence" says that they talked to Jesus or God, everybody jumps on the praise Jesus bandwagon?

Just my .02.

Thank you, Lj01

Originally posted by Confusion42
Um, yea, ok, um, yea, your crazy man

Indeed I am not 11 years old

Indeed I do have a good imagination and indeed your ignorant

Sorry, I do apologize for calling you ignronaant, in fact, how about I offer you a chance to instantanisly prove whatever the hell you wrote below; if you can in any way shape or form prove your writing I'll admit whatever it is...

Now, for the smart people reading this, I, Mr. Confusion 42, (who seems to be confusing some people), will only write the following ONCE:

Whatever I post, whatever I write, etc. has ABSOLUTELY NO BARRING ON MY OWN BELIEVES

Read: I aint gonna actually discuss what I MYSELF belive until a way later time period in my ATS "experience"

_____

Anyhow; absent ignorant minds whom want to attack a news poster instead of even discussing what the news poster posted....

I ask as I did in the Original Post ..what do you all think about this news?

Nobody here

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Confusion42

 

I say he is 11 and has a very good imagination.

His neurons were firing away.

I was born on Christmas. I used to think that maybe I was the antichrist.

Then I opened my eyes for the first time and decided to think for myself and not rely on 2000 year old stories that have been edited more that the NY Times sunday edition. How come when someone like David Koresh says he talked to god or Jesus, peopel say they are "rabid" and need put down. When "innocence" says that they talked to Jesus or God, everybody jumps on the praise Jesus bandwagon?

Just my .02.

Thank you, Lj01

What makes you think you are better than me? I believe that you are ignorant. I will not appologize. The fact that you made this comment tells me so.

And what do you want me to prove? That the bible is a couple of millennia old.
The bible has been edited and revised who knows how many times?

David Koresh was a crazy religous compound leader? Wasn't he?
That I was born on Christmas? I was jackazz.

Take a look in the mirror all mighty one. You might find some of your ignorance.

Maybe this is why you do not have that many replies....hmmm

reply to post by Confusion42

Um, yea, ok, um, yea, your crazy man

Indeed I am not 11 years old

Indeed I do have a good imagination and indeed your ignorant

Let me keep this going and show you where you went wrong. Here is a quote from my post above.

I say he is 11 and has a very good imagination

I was refferring to the boy in the article. No where in my post did I say the author of the OP.

I did not call you 11 years old.

I did not question your imagination.

For you to come straight out and call me ignorant makes me question your ability to reason.

Who is feeling ignorant now?

I question your ability to comprehend what you read.

I even said thank you.

Just my .02.
Thank you, Lj01

The last time I checked ATS was and is a public forum. Where people come in and put their ".02". So if you want to have a decent discussion with someone you can start with a little ethics of your own. If you do not wish to have a decent discussion, then keep up your attack tactics.

If you do not wish to read other peoples comments, then please stop making threads.

'___' trip

Originally posted by liejunkie01

Originally posted by Confusion42
Um, yea, ok, um, yea, your crazy man

Indeed I am not 11 years old

Indeed I do have a good imagination and indeed your ignorant

Sorry, I do apologize for calling you ignronaant, in fact, how about I offer you a chance to instantanisly prove whatever the hell you wrote below; if you can in any way shape or form prove your writing I'll admit whatever it is...

Now, for the smart people reading this, I, Mr. Confusion 42, (who seems to be confusing some people), will only write the following ONCE:

Whatever I post, whatever I write, etc. has ABSOLUTELY NO BARRING ON MY OWN BELIEVES

Read: I aint gonna actually discuss what I MYSELF belive until a way later time period in my ATS "experience"

_____

Anyhow; absent ignorant minds whom want to attack a news poster instead of even discussing what the news poster posted....

I ask as I did in the Original Post ..what do you all think about this news?

Nobody here

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Confusion42

 

I say he is 11 and has a very good imagination.

His neurons were firing away.

I was born on Christmas. I used to think that maybe I was the antichrist.

Then I opened my eyes for the first time and decided to think for myself and not rely on 2000 year old stories that have been edited more that the NY Times sunday edition. How come when someone like David Koresh says he talked to god or Jesus, peopel say they are "rabid" and need put down. When "innocence" says that they talked to Jesus or God, everybody jumps on the praise Jesus bandwagon?

Just my .02.

Thank you, Lj01

What makes you think you are better than me? I believe that you are ignorant. I will not appologize. The fact that you made this comment tells me so.

And what do you want me to prove? That the bible is a couple of millennia old.
The bible has been edited and revised who knows how many times?

David Koresh was a crazy religous compound leader? Wasn't he?
That I was born on Christmas? I was jackazz.

Take a look in the mirror all mighty one. You might find some of your ignorance.

Maybe this is why you do not have that many replies....hmmm

edit on 24-3-2011 by liejunkie01 because: spelling

You, sir, require a line by line analytics that I should / will write maybe tomorrow.;

But I'll say this

If anything, I myself offered apologies for basically the simple reason of "hey, your also a ATS member, good stuff, we are debating talking civility here" sort of manner.


Crap, I'll even admit I was a bit egotistical in saying, simply, that if you were to basically explain what you wrote / mean, I would actually say my bad..

Now having said the above (and I have a feeling the majority of "others" here will think imma softie, but i aint, but im nice)............

Reread post by post line by line what you said what i said (or maybe vice versa ) ....... and in my humble opinion do so and you yourself understand the "lack of know and or / analysic" of what your writing...

I'll give you'll maybe a small clue:....

I never heard of anybody named David Koresh who is he and why did you mention some random name (or enlighten me on who he is cause I never heard that name) I have no idea what point your trying to make using a person I never heard of before never mentioned before and in general will simply say I have no idea what the hell your talking about in regards to some person I literally have no idea who is.

Also, no one here is better than anyone else; Maybe the only true belief I'll state within this ATS forum (atleast for awhile time wise) is that I STRONGLY believe most people are equal to most people (I CERTIANLY believe most people on the internet are equal to others on the internet cause its the INTERNET *exception includes online videos I suppose ) ............ worldwide most peepz are I believe "born equal" I would say , hmmm, alot / most "die equal" like the realllllll sicko's you know they aren't equal etc. Im getting a bit off topic but my point is the clever (or stupid) grouping of words representing a avataor speaking words via internet forum cannot show in effect a real life difference of whose"better" cause aint no one better than no one in real life within certain boundaries (certain crimes make me think a few sad peepz are truely below equal but thats kinda obvious)... anyhow...

How about you reread anything I wrote here (or any of my ATS posts), show why you think I have some believe or another and try to prove it cause you can't, (not sure cause of lack of understanding what I am saying or what?) : READ........ EVERYTHING you said in the quote above makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE

>>>>>

I do sincerely apologize if your smart and understand what I been saying in this thread and read all of this cause you understand that I am using "specific as hell" language which cause kinda go in too detail but nonetheless make it clear my viewpoint on religion in general no one knows and is very simple agnostic type I have no idea who that person the weird dude above mentioned and honestly I never took any religious text in my hands and actually read it all; I have skimmed through it over the years in electronic form for purposes of knowledge / debate and education ; shhhh!t most / all religious texts have many language translations meaning issues in addition to the fact that, basically, god = alien, where incorrectly interpreted, and............ (maybe my only fault here is that I ramble sometimes, its cause I type extremely fast), well I hope smart ones understand my beliefs .........

ATS is a great community of people, persona's, character's, and more that collectiviliy contribute to overall accumulation of knowledge is people need in order to understand know as much education as possible in order to be able to even talk about issues related to events people do not know about in the sense of death afterlife creator's and such topics....

reply to post by liejunkie01


You managed to put this up during the time I put up the post immediately following it...

I'll response if you want (u should response to what I wrote tho)...

We are clearing having communication problems.

I been going over and actually reading all this stuff, its your turn, after you read all I wrote here, you will see some of the things I been REALLY talking about...

And overall, I want to know what anybody and everybody thinks about topics regarding original topic; I like to learn, to know more, endlessly, learning is a part of me and sometimes I want to continually do however with peepz that actually read and understand what I say....

reply to post by Confusion42

I'll give you'll maybe a small clue:....
I never heard of anybody named David Koresh who is he and why did you mention some random name (or enlighten me on who he is cause I never heard that name) I have no idea what point your trying to make using a person I never heard of before never mentioned before and in general will simply say I have no idea what the hell your talking about in regards to some person I literally have no idea who is.

I have to tell you that I am seriously offended by your comment above. Most people on ATS do their research before going on the offensive. I take it that you are pretty young. This is my assumption because I thought that everybody knew of the "Waco" incident. I appologize for your lack of ability to use Google before making hasty replies. So I will do it for you.

BIOGRAPHY:

David Koresh
David Koresh was born Vernon Wayne Howell in Houston, Texas in 1959 to a 15-year old single mother. He never knew his father and was raised by his grandparents.
In his late night conversations with FBI agents during the siege, Koresh described his childhood as lonely. He said the other kids teased him and called him "Vernie." He was dyslexic, a bad student, and dropped out of high school. However, he had musical ability and a strong interest in the Bible. By 12, he had memorized large tracts of it.
When he was 20, Koresh turned to the Church of Seventh Day Adventists, his mother's church. But he was expelled for being a bad influence on the young people. Sometime during the next couple of years, Koresh went to Hollywood to become a rock star but nothing came of it. Instead, in 1981 he went to Waco, Texas where he joined the Branch Davidians, a religious sect which in 1935 had settled 10 miles outside of Waco. At one time, it had more than 1,400 members.:

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/davidkoresh.html

Education is the key my lost friend.

reply to post by Confusion42

You managed to put this up during the time I put up the post immediately following it...
I'll response if you want (u should response to what I wrote tho)...

We are clearing having communication problems

Research takes a minute. I was Googling David Koresh for you.

I am not having a communication problem. I read you loud and clear.

I honestly appreciate some information on the basics of this guy but its useless...

What the hell that that guy and or his story have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING I been posting / saying here?? ?? ?

Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Confusion42

 

I'll give you'll maybe a small clue:....
I never heard of anybody named David Koresh who is he and why did you mention some random name (or enlighten me on who he is cause I never heard that name) I have no idea what point your trying to make using a person I never heard of before never mentioned before and in general will simply say I have no idea what the hell your talking about in regards to some person I literally have no idea who is.

I have to tell you that I am seriously offended by your comment above. Most people on ATS do their research before going on the offensive. I take it that you are pretty young. This is my assumption because I thought that everybody knew of the "Waco" incident. I appologize for your lack of ability to use Google before making hasty replies. So I will do it for you.

BIOGRAPHY:

David Koresh
David Koresh was born Vernon Wayne Howell in Houston, Texas in 1959 to a 15-year old single mother. He never knew his father and was raised by his grandparents.
In his late night conversations with FBI agents during the siege, Koresh described his childhood as lonely. He said the other kids teased him and called him "Vernie." He was dyslexic, a bad student, and dropped out of high school. However, he had musical ability and a strong interest in the Bible. By 12, he had memorized large tracts of it.
When he was 20, Koresh turned to the Church of Seventh Day Adventists, his mother's church. But he was expelled for being a bad influence on the young people. Sometime during the next couple of years, Koresh went to Hollywood to become a rock star but nothing came of it. Instead, in 1981 he went to Waco, Texas where he joined the Branch Davidians, a religious sect which in 1935 had settled 10 miles outside of Waco. At one time, it had more than 1,400 members.:

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/davidkoresh.html

Education is the key my lost friend.

reply to post by Confusion42


The op question to everybody. Directly quoted from you.

Um, well, at the moment, the only additionally commentary I want to add is.... What do you all think???

Directly quoted from me.

I say he is 11 and has a very good imagination.

His neurons were firing away.

I was born on Christmas. I used to think that maybe I was the antichrist.

Then I opened my eyes for the first time and decided to think for myself and not rely on 2000 year old stories that have been edited more that the NY Times sunday edition. How come when someone like David Koresh says he talked to god or Jesus, peopel say they are "rabid" and need put down. When "innocence" says that they talked to Jesus or God, everybody jumps on the praise Jesus bandwagon?

Just my .02.

Thank you, Lj01

Your article directly talks about religion. Jesus to be specific. I was reffering to how everybody wants to "dis" eccentric people who say they have talked to Jesus or god. I believe that Koresh believes he was doing "Gods" work according to his plan. Everybody thought he was nuts for this. Hence the FBI coming in and mowing him down for "taxes" or whatever is the true reason.

This was the direct opposite of "innocence", reffering to the boy being only a child and this is ok to talk directly to Jesus. I was merely trying to point out what I believe is the problem of religous believers. It is ok to believe one way, as long as it is the "right" way according to popular demand. It was simply an example.

With all do respect, I am calm now and I do apologize for my harshness. I am on ATS like you. To find the truth that I am looking for. I was simply responding to the question of, "what do you think." I was not trying to drag you into a long religous debate of some sort. I was only putting in my two cents of neurons firing in the brain causing his visions. Thats all. Not Jesus or God causing his visions.

Again this is my belief and I apologize again.