I opened my third eye and I regret it

reply to post by Castogere


yes this is the best way to really open up your inner self,other doors open in the brain
but i do think magic mushrooms will be the best way as a form of '___' you know natural
not man made .

I have been a bit lax on the practice of the exercises lately it is probably because of the heat. But, I have achieved an opening where I could be close to sleep and all of a sudden I can see through my closed eye lids. It was scenes from my room but a bit different. Or I would see people walking outside. Its like I can astral remote view seeing full color images while awake. Your ability to use dowsing rods will be increased tremendously, and you will have gained the ability to make dogs shut up. Focusing on people auras can allow you to tune in and see their thoughts.

I believe the Neti exercises flush out etheric crap from the exercises. if you don;t do neti you will get massive headaches.

Originally posted by Angelaisaac
I just looked back and saw this has not been answered. I am also interested in hearing the answer to this. About a month ago I was listening to one of those Brainwave audio clips to fall asleep to. Within a few minutes of me laying there, my dog, who was in bed with me but already passed out, woke up and ran to the edge of my bed barking frantically. He then stopped, stared into space for a second then went back to bed all normal as if nothing had happened. At the time I was listening to a clip that was supposed to aid in opening the chakras. I wonder if it somehow affected my dog in his sleep. He has not done that before or since.

Do not do chakra exercises at night!. When you do chakra opening exercises you are essentially turning on a lightbulb for all spiritual beings to see. You are very lucky that you did not open your perception enough to see what the dog sees. I have experience with this. Do your exercises before 1 pm!

reply to post by pellian


Yes pellian I've also experienced looking out my eyes with my eyelids shut when close to sleep,I've seen people interacting with each other in clear detail,could be astral viewing for me or else lucid dreaming

amazing that your subtle bodies have developed this far so fast. it took me 16 months to get there.

reply to post by pellian


not so developed yet,only had 2 experiences of looking through my closed eyes and it's only for few seconds then I opened my eyes and same picture,that was a few weeks ago seemed like a dream,could have been

This is an interesting comment.

What do you use in your NetiI?

Just salt or other additives?

Originally posted by pellian

I believe the Neti exercises flush out etheric crap from the exercises. if you don;t do neti you will get massive headaches.

No it's not a dream you are seeing through them.

I did this years ago when I began voluntary training on OBE's. It really freaked me out at first, but yes you are seeing through your eyelids, in a sense.

Sometimes you will see the room in just a different setting, like mine was a grid laid out in the room. Kind of like and over lapping of a light complex grid over the room, then I would open my eyelids and the grid would dissipate, and I would be laying there looking at the room.

Originally posted by lucid365
reply to post by pellian

 

not so developed yet,only had 2 experiences of looking through my closed eyes and it's only for few seconds then I opened my eyes and same picture,that was a few weeks ago seemed like a dream,could have been

was reading rudolf steiners book higher knowledge and theres several things he mentions you should be developed in before attempting any of these exercises,samual Sagan leaves all of these out of his book but does recommend reading steiners book,to be honest it's quite difficult to understand rudolf steiner book,it's not an easy read,and I'm finding it quite difficult to understand him with his explanations ect,it's also quite worrying as he mentions if your not developed in all the recommendations that he is advising then you will become a plaything for spiritual forces and your 16 Petaled lotus (astral body)will be deformed and not pure)there's a multitude of hard things to achieve that he advises,#in hell,wish there was a mo pei school just around the corner from me lol,you really need a master to teach you so you won't go crazy ect or # yourself up waaaaa

Originally posted by Mandelbrot2012

Originally posted by pellian
I AM NOT ON DRUGS OR NEVER HAD DRUGS!!!

i found a very real technique that will increase your spiritual perception by a thousand fold. I won't tell anybody what it is or where I learned it because Some may attract very evil entities and possibly destroy themselves over it.

ok I say peove it tell us your immortal technique used for channeling the spirit world. I really dont want to sound like I am mocking you I am not.... I am truly interested I just need some proof. Otherwise thats a really bold statement you expect us all the ats users to believe. Thanx for your contribution....hope to hear some details of your powers and techniques ...if you cant tell youve been disproven? ....

edit on 23-3-2011 by Mandelbrot2012 because: (no reason given)

Hey all..

But is there really any special technique, isn't it very much individual?

At least it seems that way to me, cause I could never give a manual to how my Guardian contacts me, it's all on his terms and most usual happends when I need him, all I do is simply ask for him, in mind that is, and he appears, either as I can see him or more often just more like I can feel his present and get his words into my mind.

I do have to tell him to cool it from time to time, since he gets slightly pissed at me for not doing everything his way, if it doesn't help to just think it, I can say it out loud and often he quiets down on me then.


I have never learnt this in any way, it all comes natural and has been for as long as I can remember, have always been able to tell whats about to happen to people in advance, but of course I don't tell them the bad news, that would be to stretch it a bit too far..

Often I just know and keep it to myself..
You have to be really careful with the people, some of them cannot handle this kind of things, most of them actually, often it is people that I don't even know in person and it's diffcult to just walk up to an unknown and tell it like it is, I have a few close people, who I can infact talk to about these kind of things.. thankfully, otherwise i'll go crazy I think, you need at least someoe to load off the burden on...

It's just horrible to know that someone is about to die, and there is absolutely nothing, zero, zip you can do about it, it's awful, happened to me a couple of times and I must say I'll NEVER forgive myself for not acting upon that feeling I got the night before my best friend died...

I should have went there, as I knew it were about to happen, BUT I ignored it, just told myself it's all in your head he'll be just fine... Just fine..


Even if I knew what was about to happen that night. I had just moved from the city and lived about an hour away, had no one to take care of my animals in the new place, I tried to call my friend that night, no answer, tried to call some mutual friends, they did not had the time to go over and ask him to pick up the phone..(I'll NEVER forgive them)

I went to bed, thinking, it's all in my head, get a grip, he'll be fine, we'll talk tomorrow..

The next morning I got a call alright...from his brother just screaming, He's dead,..!!

I could not believe it! Still feel terribly guilty about it, I should have been there that night, he'd be alive if I just have taken this premonition seriously, I'll never forgive myself for letting my best friend just die on me...

I feel like it is my fault, still, after this years.. that will never pass, so as it happened again, got the same feeling, but this time about a total stranger, on the other side of the world, that I did not know at all, I knew I had to act on it...

I only knew the name, and where he was located and I started my serach on the net to get in touch with someone to get the message through, I did not want to have the same scenario over again..

Since I knew who it was, I got a hold of his dead friends mother(this is surely complicated and a lot more to the story than I could possibly go into without keeping you up all night) and I told her about Mikey and the trouble he was facing, as gentle as I could... Told her he was in big trouble and I'd like for her to give him my mail, so he could choose to contact me, a total stranger...

I got an e-mail from the guy, Mikey sunday afternoon, answered it, but to tell someone you don't know like hey, watch it MR, your'e about to die.. thats too wierd.. so I had to establish SOME kind of trust and I told him a bit about me, and who I was and ordinary stuff, got an answer again monday and then I started to put together THE mail to tell him to be extra careful... tuesday(my time, we lived in different countries) I never sent the mail, I thought to send it wednesday morning...

When I got up wednesday morning I had a mail in the inbox, from the mother of Mikeys dead friend, saying that Mike was found dead in his appartement tuesday afternoon,,

I could not believe it, it had happened AGAIN... I did not get to tell him in time, and after that I got loads of questions from Mikeys mummy, she wanted me to explain just how I knew this was about to happen to her son!

Well, how do you explain what you cannot even understand yourself? I just tried to explain as good as I could.. not good enough I'm afraid, but the mother of Mikeys friend, she did understand and talked to the mother of Mike that I had no good explanation for what just happened..
There is none...

But it made me feel even worse, I couldnt save him either.. feels horrible,,, I should have told him the first mail I sent.

I understand if this post don't make any sence at all, I hardly understand it myself , I only know what I feel, and see... and most of all know.. and I'm no psychic at all!!!

I'm just me.. Normal I would say, but with some abilities to just know things..

The way we are connected in this whole mess is that Mikeys friend died the same day as my best friend did, and I had a really hard last couple of years, in really bad shape if I should be honest and I have really missed my friend, I never faced him dying on me, even though I know he's gone, it never felt that he did die for real...

I THINK that my dead friend, whom I surely could have needed the support from the last years and still do, he had something to do with all of this, how I don't really know, but D, my guardian, he is indeed sent to help me through this horrible changes in my life that i'm facing...

D was also friends of Mikey and Mikeys dead friend (L), they are connected all togehter, and the only connection they have to MY friend is that L and he died at the exact same day back in 2002...

It sure is wierd and has taken me time to sum up the pieces and put it togheter, still wonder a lot about it... and my best guess is that I needed the help so bad from my best friend, and he were not strong enough to come himself, so in some way he sent D... Who needed help to get some messages to the living..

And now, when D's not here, I miss the company of him around... I really do, a strange kind of friendship I surely will not be without..

One of my non beliving friends did almost faint when D walked right in front of her, about 10 meters away, straight across the front lawn, I had my back turned at him that time, and she just, WOW, some bearded guy just walked right behind you, picked up something from the lawn and then disappeared.. Just like that!

He later on "told" me that it was just because she did not believe me for sure. he also do some stupid tricks when I have people over, and we discuss these things, such as taking out nails from the wall, right in front of the people, he's hiding things from me, my stuff, kinda like normal thing, the dogs collar or maybe a pair of jeans or anything really.. It's gone one moment, I can search the entire place, nowhere to be found, and as I give up serching, then the next day or so, it's just right on the floor or somewhere that I know for sure that I have looked before.

When he does things like that, harmless but annoying of course, then I know he is not at all happy with me, he thinks I'm not doing things his way, especially now for the moment.

He wants me to get to know a person, I THINK that one needs some help, don't know why, but it IS really difficult to just go to someone and ask for some friendship or something, I dont know the person at all..

Don't know how to solve it yet, but I will figure it out.. I have to.. I don't really feel that the person is in any danger as of now, but he's a bit lost, and needs some friend who do understand what he feel or see..

Let's see how it turns out..
Sorry for the long post, and I didn't even explain half of it.. it is too complicated.. I don't even understand it myself..

All I do know is I owe D my life, for real.. I would be dead without his guidance.. surely..

//MillsCore

Originally posted by lucid365
I would be so interested to know how many people opened there 3rd eye because they stumbled apon this post,so people feel free to let me know,once again to let you all know I opened the 3rd eye only about a week before starting to read sagans book

I ran accross this thread a few months back and became interested in the concept of opening my third eye. I downloaded and read the book sited by pellian. About a week ago I downloaded a binaural beats thing that says it helps open the third eye. Anyway, I have used it the last two days and last night it seemed to be working. I felt like I could "see" even though my eyes were closed. I saw mostly moving patterns and colors but I also could see my room around me. I kept squeezing my eyelids to make sure they were closed because it was just so strange. I know people are going to say things like "you shouldn't pry your third eye open, and don't do this at night" but I feel like I am ready and I am not scared of what I might see. I go into to this with light and love and I don't believe that anything I might see can cause me harm. So, yes I am one of the people who read this and am opening my third eye. I would love to talk to you more about your experiences if you have time.

reply to post by Alena Michelle


Alena,

You are not experiencing third eye vision, You are either astral projecting or having an OBE in the meditative state.

When you open your Third Eye, you will see the spiritual world around you with your eyes wide open.

I advise you to seek out a spiritual guide to advise and help you through a Third Eye opening or you may not like the journey.

Either way, be safe and always surround yourself with white light while you conduct your meditation.

Originally posted by sirric
reply to post by Alena Michelle

 

Alena,

You are not experiencing third eye vision, You are either astral projecting or having an OBE in the meditative state.

When you open your Third Eye, you will see the spiritual world around you with your eyes wide open.

I advise you to seek out a spiritual guide to advise and help you through a Third Eye opening or you may not like the journey.

Either way, be safe and always surround yourself with white light while you conduct your meditation.

And if you are feeling confident replace real white light with the song by the Gorillaz

LoL j/k

It was mentioned earlier but magic mushrooms can be helpful in this when used properly.
I know from experience. Be safe and protect yourself at all times (love MMA and this rule has always served me well).

reply to post by Alena Michelle


that's good alena that your having some progress,I'm sure my third eye is activated,it happened when I was using alpha beat sound,I was close to sleep,I had no thoughts,you could almost say I was such in a trance that I was losing awareness,then I got trobbing on my fohead like vibration,similar to a butterfly flapping it's wings on my forhead,I became alarmed after a few seconds,that's when the viberation stopped,I could see bursting colors with eyes closed,purple to green,green to purple,the purple would evaporate and the green would take over,then the purple tAke over again,I was amazed when it happened as part of me was thinking that these things are people's imagination,I was proven wrong,so I had pressure or density on my forhead for the next week,so now I don't have density unless I meditate,when there's a full moon the density gets stronger,also when I do kundalini exercises i can see the purple and green with eyes closed without meditating,recently ive seen White stars on a black backround,this is all I've experienced,I mainly just do the throat friction meditation,was going to do the neti cleansing soon that's mentioned in the book,it's kinda hard to know what path to follow with no teacher,did u have a third eye activation yet? Thanks for sharing alena

reply to post by MasterGemini


I suppose you have seen this spiritual world and have a third eye thats open right? my third eye activated alright,I can see energy when meditating but no spiritual world yet ,it seems like your saying that if your 3rd eye is open that it's compulsory that your viewing the spiritual world

Originally posted by pellian
I AM NOT ON DRUGS OR NEVER HAD DRUGS!!!

i found a very real technique that will increase your spiritual perception by a thousand fold. I won't tell anybody what it is or where I learned it because Some may attract very evil entities and possibly destroy themselves over it.

The very first night I tried this i had a very different type of dream which i had not had before. the content doesn't mean anything but i digress. The day After i notice that sometimes my awareness would shift and my vision seems different for a moment. i thought that this is really cool. i do the exercises again soon after. same thing at night. I see colors and shapes that follow my vision. These were there if I closed my eye in complete darkness or opened them in the very dim light of my room. These seemed to be objects of some sort that gave off a dim glow and had a woven pattern.

As I practiced it sounds really crazy But I think that these exercises created some sort of energy that attract astral forms. One night I woke up and saw this thick rope strung from my window sill to the door. at the moment i knew what it was. I made the mistake of touching this animal or thing and felt a jolt like electricity. I was definitely awake I immediately felt very sick and had chills all over my body.
I continued the exercises two weeks later i was really close to sleep and a blue ring of light that fluttered like a butterfly came into my room. I turned on the light and the ring persisted of about a second after and I again felt a sting i my side and the same chills. I assure that I am not dreaming and fully awake.

If this is not some crazy hallucination then whatever I have been doing is either lighting me up like a porch light to attract moths or these entities are coming through to this world via my consciousness. A hallucination cannot affect you physiologically to make a shock effect. I also have noticed that when did the exercises something seems to materialize in my room. The way this thing or object would materialize is that it would appear like it was a different refractive index like the air. I would also see entities that looked like this right after I wake up. I have even noticed small feathers falling down in my room.


The level of perception was incredible. But was not worth being bothered by these entities.

Why do you think hallucinations can't cause physiological effects? And you state it like it's a fact.

A hallucination is a perception with no stimulus. It has the qualities of a real perception meaning you are not aware that it is a hallucination. If what you are experiencing is a hallucination it's not like an acid trip where the user is aware that they are hallucinating. Or it could be what's referred to as a disturbance. Seeing things in your peripheral vision, auditory hallucinations, that kind of thing. As far as physical effects you can have a somatic hallucination which apparently you aren't aware of. This makes it feel like and you actually believe, feel the whole 9 yards, that something is happening to your body. t actually feels like your limbs are being ripped off or your intestines are being pulled out, so they can be very traumatic. And yes these things can cause shock.

There are 5 stages of hallucinations. The 1st is the onset of fantasy or forgotten or suppressed mental images. Then you start having reality checks, "Did I just see that?". THe next stage is when you begin to accept the hallucinations as reality. Then the hallucinations are completely confused with and intertwined with reality. THen your internal/external boundaries completely break down.

The point is if your mind believes it's real, then the stress upon your body is real. The effects upon your brain are real. And the funny thing is you say hallucinations can't cause a shock reaction, they can. But you assume the hallucinations came 1st. Shock, PTSD, psychoactive drugs, temporal lobe seizures can all cause hallucinations. If your diabetic, there is a condition which can cause what you are experiencing. Drugs can cause it. Various mental ailments. Schizophrenia jumps to mind. It could also be eye floaters. But there are serious physical problems that could cause it. A stroke for example or mini strokes. It could also be from migraines. You ought to talk to your general practitioner and I imagine he'll refer you to a neurologist. But what you describe screams medical issue a lot louder than transdimensional beings.

reply to post by DrJay1975


yeah, I have not had any hallucinations yet or seen any spirits,but I can see the purple space,it's energy I think,the purple evapourates and the yellow cloud takes over then it's the yellow that evapourates and the purple cloud takes over,looks nice,it's energy I'm guessing building up as I'm concentrating on the 3rd eye,no Fu lucid dreaming in about 4 weeks now,bloody 3rd eye,need more meditation lol

I've experienced this kind of thing before like I previously posted, and I know you've all been warned enough in this thread BUT, SERIOUSLY.... if you're between 16-30 years old it is very possible that you are experiencing schizophrenic symptoms if it's effecting your daily life. I don't know a whole lot about this astral world and 3rd eye stuff but stimulating the pineal gland when schizophrenia is already occuring is most likely the wrong thing to do. I'm not accusing anyone of being schizo either, but try to be aware and use caution.

I know that these transparent lifeforms I am seeing come around only when i do the exercises and have focus in the 3rd eye. it got to the point where I saw physical feathers float down where I was sitting in a closed apartment.

I heard something like if you are lacking yang energy you will see ghosts ect,that's why I'm guessing sagan gets you to meditate before 1pm as morning is yang and night is yin,I heard that spirits are after your yang energy as they have a lack of yang,so there always scheming and taking the forms of family members or people never showing there true image or intention,it's recommened that you don't trust any spirit not even a spirit guide,hmmmmm pity about not being able to trust them,dam lol it's hard enough trying to thread this lonely path lol