Scientists create animals that are part-human

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gahh... sorry nm my link stopped working

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ITS ABOUT TIME THANK YOU GOD

You might not realize the importance of your thread right now, but in time you will.
You posted about hybrid beings. The start of mans creation these are the ones that have been reported on ufos by those people that have been abducted.

When man wants to play god it becomes a total disaster of course. Had it been let to go on the "GREY" as they are called would have been the last of man as we once knew him to be.
The problem was corrected this is why the world is seeing them as dimensional beings they are in a non-existent state. Because man learned to do the right thing and not make other beings. Its a lesson to learn from the Creator.

I don't want to get to far off your topic because some people get all upset when that happens, but it all goes together.

Thank you for your topic.

I like the thought on animals containing human organs in which we could harvest and use in transplants, the medical opportunities are endless, and its a fascinating time in which we live. We would be able to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, harvesting meat and "good" organs, the animals were going to die for our food consumption anyway, and its better to use most to all of the carcass as we can, so why not?

Animals assisting us in the Medical world is astounding. Lets look at this scenario.

Woman, someday hopes to have kid(s), mid to late 20s, heart disease, one of the valves are severely damaged, here are her choices.

Biological valve, scientists are able to use a pig's heart valve to replace the humans due to similarities, this is known as a "xenograph", while the pig valve tends to wear out quickly (10 years-ish before next surgery), it is better suited for a person whose wanting to conceive children. Possible effects would be the body rejecting the foreign material, though there are medications which could retard the effect.

Artificial valve. Scientists are able to create mechanical valves which replicate the valve, these valve require the patient to be on anti-coagulation therapy due to the mechanical valves creating clots, therefor a blood thinner is needed, which can have severe effects on a pregnancy.

I know that your objective thinking isn't nearly on par with what I stated, but the point is, it is seemingly more beneficial to us. The thing I don't understand is, there are far worse things happening on this planet, why waste your energy on this? Sad, sure, do I care? Nay.

Don't know what all the fuss is about. . .my ex-wife's family has been doing something similar for generations!

Oh no he didn't!

This is against nature.

And nature always bites back in huge ways.

As I am always saying to scientists, why don't you try and help the people on this planet?

Originally posted by woghd
Are they animals?

THEY HAVE HUMAN BRAINS.

That makes them a human trapped in an animal body.
A human child.

I can understand your concern with this idea. But recognize that having "some" human brain cells/neurons does not make it look or act like a human brain. It's still a little tiny mouse brain, or sheep's brain in there, connected to a sheep or mouse body. It will be ENTIRELY different than what a human brain is... the benefit though, is that we can use those neurons later to help a human being heal.

Imagine having kidney problems, and having your blood run through a dialysis machine... putting your blood into a machine for 15 minutes does not make that machine human.

Originally posted by woghd
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No it is a human brain deformed to fit a mouse skull. Mouse brains can only be made from mouse cells. If it makes people more comfortable to swallow this evil by saying "they are still only mice!", then so be it, but no amount of mouse cells can ever make a human brain, nor is the reverse true.

This is an evil, evil thing they are doing..

you must have misunderstood the article.

Its the same thing as using stem cells from animals to create human organs. It doesnt make the person who receives the organ an animal, and it doesnt mean that they have an animals organ.

They arent cramming human brains into mice skulls. They aren't fashioning little mini human brains for mice and creating an army of little white mice flying around in tea cups. they are simply making the mice-brain physically more similar to a human brain so that there is a stronger correlation when they conduct regular studies.

Making mice more like humans is brilliant. We already endlessly run them through mazes, why not solidify the research by switching out a few genes.

Its progress if you ask me

I don't like this at all. you all know what this means right? Any day now the aliens of the Galactic Monsanto Company will send their lawyers here to sue these scientists, shut them down, confiscate their genetics, then force them to buy their human genes from them so they may charge a technology fee.

on a real note, its sad that there are people out there who think they are better at this 'craft' than momma nature is....wonder what she'll come up with to 'balance' things...

i find this like some kind of horror movie. if some of my organs break down that's it, sorry family i am cooked and gone.

Quote from Dr Christian Barnard:

I had bought two male chimps from a primate colony in Holland. They lived next to each other in separate cages for several months before I used one as a [heart] donor. When we put him to sleep in his cage in preparation for the operation, he chattered and cried incessantly. We attached no significance to this, but it must have made a great impression on his companion, for when we removed the body to the operating room, the other chimp wept bitterly and was inconsolable for days. The incident made a deep impression on me. I vowed never again to experiment with such sensitive creatures. ~Christian Barnard, surgeon

www.quotegarden.com...

I see a motto in the background, "Deny Ignorance". Is that not working for you?

Originally posted by Screwed
Yeah, and if we were able to do the same thing in reverse with reptiles we would have.....us.
This has already been done.
We are not fully human. We never were.
The percentage of reptilian DNA is weaker in us and stronger in the Powerful Elite but none of us are
fully human, Unless the word human automatically referrs to the mixing of Reptilian DNA and the DNA of our
ancestors whatever they may be called.

Again, this has already been done and we are living proof.

LOL classic Errrr any proof? Ah I forgot YOUTUBE tells us all lol. If you really think we have reptilian dna then you need to have a good talk to yourself and stop being so gullible. If you can show me evidence and not some '___' taking nutters opinion I will eat my hat literally.

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I also don't like such abuse of freedom and power humans have been given over other species. Everything comes with a price and so does knowledge.
There will be a time when everything would be fake and superficial, not that it isn't now... People are losing a golden trait called 'innocence'!

i have mention this many many time here on ATS
Man Now has this ability to create a creature that has never been on this earth before

what Our creators forgot that more advance we become the more WE... become like them !
That ability is a reality ! even more so! now just with 100 years look where we are today then we were a thousand years ago... that 3 percent difference between Ape and Human give us that ability to have Eisenstein, Mozart , Jules Verne, ETC.. that inspired Us all ... and what is that 3 percent ! obviously there is nothing like it on this planet ! That 3 percent is either from GOD or Alien or ANGEL! ..
I see more that we are Chimeras as we are making Chimeras

and some of you may be right ! The Sumerian's May of done it Genetic Engineering creating a Species
or someone, they have been around ,, that is way more advance then they would ever be,, that has taught them ! as the Sumerian's were foremost the most advance civilization of they're time line... that had many Civil First Written Language & Schooling for one ..

Would you laugh still if those Sumerian, Babylonian, pre Columbian carving's of Winged Humans and Winged horses & Man-Cats did exist ! or Hybrid's & Chimaera's were created it would put a damper for Evolutionist & Creationist that would think' of a Spiritual Force that has Created every living thing on earth.. Yet there is a Mammal a Rodent that Glides & a Rodent that Actually Fly's ( BAT ) Well not every species become a Fossil either..

We Humans are still advancing out of the stage of that
Child's Chemistry set ( Civilization one ) I tend to agree we may have did it before as there so many mysteries
Anomalies yet to be explained .. Maybe the Advanced Humans are what we call Aliens not necessarily from another world you know the branches of Abraham would call Messengers, Angels, Heavenly Beings Demigods ones from Atlantis ( The Advanced Human Colony)


How Long has Modern Man been on the planet again! ? 250 thousand years or 6 thousand years!

Did the Nephilim exist Hybrid Chimera? Abraham World of the 3 Branches Hebrew Christian Muslim
would be likely believed as it foretold in their scriptures ! Angels & Human Woman mix added to the Adam EVE Gene Pool to a 1,000 year old Human lifespan as it says in the Hebrew Bible.. that gradually reduces to 120 years .. How would Science Know what was added and subtracted ? I would love to ask Genetic Engineer what would happen if some of that 3 percent difference was missing ! then we have the claimed Fusion of chromosome 2

I have a Feeling I already know ..


I know for One a Woman that looked like an Ape But 100% Human named Julia Pastrana had in Her DNA Missing Genes ! and just maybe those missing genes she had,, was just a little part of ! that 3 percent difference of us humans and Apes that made her look like An Ape/hominid Search for it and see what I mean

Julia Pastrana
en.wikipedia.org...

Animal Farm episode 1 p1 ( please see the rest of the parts on You tube ) The Reality! Exposed!




Island of Dr Moreau (1996)


Set in the year 2010 ! Interesting listen to the video !




This is a Case for Graig Venter
en.wikipedia.org...

This is not New news its Old, Mad science experiments and corrupt Governments have been doing this for decades now
during the Cold War all hidden from public view !

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I am weeping over this.

Crap on humans - we are the bottom creatures on this planet.

And all we do is abuse our fellow humans, including babies, and we abuse every other life form on this planet.

I am continuing to cry and cry.

Can someone please drag me up from here?

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OK, no-one.

There you have it.

What really surprises me is that we still need to harvest so many bodily organs at all, whether from cadavers or from animals. I'm surprised that by now a lot of human organs cannot be made artificially and reasonably cheaply, since what the majority of the organs do is relatively straightforward. They're only so complex because they have had to slowly evolve and grow naturally, but I'm pretty sure that with today's technology many of them could be made synthetically. After all, they seem to be able to build lots of little gadgets these days for just about everything else.

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You might not realize the importance of your thread

Sadly, I think I do...I'm cursed to walk more than one world.
Regardless, Thank You.



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That sends shivers down my spine...
The article I addressed did mention that:

Newman and anti-biotechnology activist Jeremy Rifkin have been tracking this issue for the last decade and were behind a rather creative assault on both interspecies mixing and the government’s policy of patenting individual human genes and other living matter.

Years ago, the two applied for a patent for what they called a “humanzee,” a hypothetical — but very possible — creation that was half human and chimp. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office finally denied their application this year, ruling that the proposed invention was too human: Constitutional prohibitions against slavery prevents the patenting of people.

Newman and Rifkin were delighted, since they never intended to create the creature and instead wanted to use their application to protest what they see as science and commerce turning people into commodities. [own emphasis added]

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So although these ruling can and are overturned when the need arises, thanks to Newman and Rifkin we may have a respite on such sorrowful aberrations for now.
I dread to think how your example, and others, would play out were they "humanzees"...



All this horrendous experimentation on "lesser" animals is down to one thing - our own fears of death evidenced by the fact that those who are able to accept their own mortality often have an empathy with other living things that tends to be absent from those desperate to live, whatever the price paid.
To be able to accept ones own mortality is to completely change ones view of the world and the life that resides on it.
So many fail to realise their human nature; their utter self-centeredness in this respect is the issue and the motivation that allows this continuing abusive attitude towards every living thing in our self-absorbed quest for immortality.
Our collective fears of death have been and still are, the cause of much suffering in this world.

Simply put - were we all to not fear the inevitable, there wouldn't be experiments like these, as we would gladly accept what must happen to each and every one of us - we'd have no need to abuse another lifeform for our personal gain.
Bring back the days before death was associated with "sins" and "damnation"...I'm sure that's half the reason most are afraid to die, for fear of being punished for their concept of 'right' and 'wrong'.

Someone commented earlier about how paedophilia is related to this topic.
In a way it is very relevant, as collectively we are all abusers, not necessarily just of children, but of any and all innocence unfortunate enough to come into contact with the human race as a whole.

This actually makes me feel kind of sick.

The fact that people are growing human cells inside animals, and then killing them if they actually show any human traits...

Now I know e need to progress and cure diseases and such like, I'm in the medical profession myself. But this... This just makes my skin crawl.

Work out how to grow organs in a lab, not in a mouse. I can't understand how that will help whatsoever.

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I personally am not against using human volunteers for experiments. If we opened that up further and wider no one would have to "illegally" have to conduct the experiments.

Hrm ... Step into the front line to volunteer than. Because i know i'm not volunteering for mad scientist experiments are you MAD(insane)?