Obama rules out 'land invasion' in Libya

Seems like they pulled off the Kansas shuffle:
Look Disaster in Japan! * quickly attack Libya *
huh?...groundtroops?...naaah * 2000 marines already deployed *

Hey...wait a second...

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Sounds like a bait and switch to me.

So do we know for sure if these Marines are actually on the ground in Libya?

Been away from the thread for a few hours and felt sure I'd come back to some solid proof. Nothing?

I thought I would post this here in this thread
since Slayer is all Gung Ho for this air war /
no-fly zone in Libya.

Slayer, do you really know who the US Planes
are protecting on the ground ???

According to a cache of al Qaeda documents captured in 2007 by U.S. special operations commandos in Sinjar, Iraq, hundreds of foreign fighters, many of them untrained young Islamic volunteers, poured into Iraq in 2006 and 2007. The documents, called the Sinjar documents, were collected, translated and analyzed at the West Point Counter Terrorism Center. Almost one in five foreign fighters arriving in Iraq came from eastern Libya, many from the city of Darnah. Others came from Surt and Misurata to the west.

On a per capita basis, that’s more than twice as many than came from any other Arabic-speaking country, amounting to what the counter terrorism center called a Libyan “surge" of young men eager to kill Americans.

During 2006 and 2007, a total of 1,468 Americans were killed in combat and 12,524 were badly wounded, according to Pentagon records.

www.huffingtonpost.com...

US Planes are giving air cover for the same
foreign fighters who helped kill, 1,500 US Military
Personnel in Iraq.

We bombed them in Iraq

now we are providing air cover for them in Libya

great job Obama, u r aiding the enemy
of the war on terror.

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Agreed, the choice of foot in mouth Joe Biden for V.P. is starting to make sense now. Maybe he'll roll him out to explain things. I'm sure we'll understand the goal then.

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you mean the guy that told "Chuck" in the wheelchair to stand up and take a bow?

Gaddafi was doing us a favor by killing
the same fighters that were killing
Americans in Iraq.

And so, Slayer is speechless ....

the truth hurts doesn't it brother ???
I know the feeling

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That's the guy. Sad to say he probably has the most foreign policy experience in the administration.

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Nope sorry I'm not ignoring you.
I'm home Working out



ETA: Priorities

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

Nope sorry I'm not ignoring you.
I'm home Working out

so do you agree with Obama providing air cover
for terrorists who killed Americans in Iraq ???

Originally posted by boondock-saint

so do you agree with Obama providing air cover
for terrorists who killed Americans in Iraq ???

I'd rather have them in their home country fighting and dying in Libya instead of facing our troops sure.

Lets hope this time they'll be more effective and actually win...

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Lets hope this time they'll be more effective and actually win...

I think the question we are all still pondering is - win what exactly? When have we won? When Gaddafi has agreed to a cease fire and then quietly murders everyone that was involved? When his government has collapsed and he leaves the country? When he's assassinated?

I'm quoted as saying boots would be on the ground when it started. They aren't done with this gladiator match - we saw the fireworks - now its time for some sword-play.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Lets hope this time they'll be more effective and actually win..

no offense to you but this is
a minion dumbed down mentality.

If they win, then they have a whole
country to fight against the US.

Nice strategy Slayer,
you and Obama just gave them a
whole country and all it's resources.

reply to post by boondock-saint


No, they are fighting in their country where they belong. Not on some half-assed worthless jihad insurgency over in Iraq.

Those are their resources.

Originally posted by Deebo
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Lol yea.. we don't even really know. I thought it was just a few tomahawks and no air attacks, yet an f15 was shot down or crashed. What was he doing there.

Deebo

dont forget the us military came in arms blazing on civilians when they pick the pilot up, injuring 6

reminds me of www.collateralmurder.com... video of reuters news employees being killed

There are boots on the ground. The resolution doesn’t rule out ground forces. It authorises the use of all necessary measures to enforce the NFZ and protect civilians. Naturally, ground forces used in support of the resolution are covered, it only prohibits an “occupation force”.

The opposition are not “al-Qaeda”, they are diverse range of numerous groups united only by their hatred of Gaddafi and who are in some cases only marginally less hostile towards each other. This is in part why Gaddafi was able to remain in power for 42 years. It is their main problem and it is a major headache for anyone who wishes to organise them into a meaningful and successful military force or government.

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" Thats Special Activities Division . They arn't military.

In addition we may be using PMCs. They arn't technically military either. "


Yeah , and a Hot Dog ain't Technically a Dog either ................

I was in such a big hurry I forgot to add it because of WWIII breaking out ANY second...

First Nobel Peace Prize winner kicks off WWIII would be quite a headline.

Originally posted by Itop1

Originally posted by esdad71
It was the Marines on the ground that saved the pilot of the downed F-15 that had 'mechanical' problems and crashed.

Sorry but you were wrong with this statement, the downed pilots were rescued by 2 Ospreys, the only forces currently on the ground when the F15s went down were special forces, atleast SAS i know for a fact because it was reported weeks ago.

How could it have been reported weeks ago when it only just happened? (At least, here it was reported just the other day - and the story was that the downed pilots were rescued by grateful peasants!) As reported here, the story stunk of movie-of-the-week propaganda...
Vicky

What?Did you think the uss Kearsarge with the ospreys and 2000 marines aboard was just along for the training?
The marines arrived with the flotilla and were an aset from day uno.
Is it possible that the only way for an adventurous Libyan youth to get out into the world was through going all expense paid jihad?
How repressive was the regime?maybe that was the only sure way out of there, or could they have been sentencing petty criminals too?
Just askin......