CNN accuses Fox News of 'outrageous' lie over 'human shields' in Libya

The argument of "oh they all do it" is tired and false in this instance. I will give you that at this point it seems that news, particularly cable news, slant or cover things that serve their own political perspective. However, they do not all air false stories.

Also, IF other networks do air false stories it doesn't excuse Fox in this situation, two, three, four wrongs do not make a right. Every network that does this needs to be publicly called on it, it needs to acknowledged.

However, Fox stands by the story, no retraction, no blaming of a misinformed source, just that they stand by the story.

Perhaps, everyone that currently finds themselves in need of work should submit their resumes to news networks as fact checkers, there seem to be a plethora of openings in that field.

Originally posted by Larrelye
Fox News is lying to me!? They are misrepresenting facts!? This is outrageous!

Ok. In all seriousness. Reporters led into a government facility makes that building ineligible for bombing. Equals, human shields. Of course that is a sensationalized statement, but it doesn't make it untrue.

On the other issue being brought up. Fox News is a news organization. They report news to me as well as their opinion. Why do I personally choose Fox? Because their opinions generally reflect my own and other news channels do not. Should I say that MSNBC and CNN are not news organizations because they cater to their audience and report/have opinions that mirror their base? Let's get real. It's ALL entertainment. If it wasn't, they wouldn't be on TV and no one would want to watch if they were. Bashing Fox is like bashing Americans. It's cool because they have been on top for a while now. If most of the American news watching public chooses Fox, doesn't that at least lend credence to the "fact" that most of the American news watching public also agrees with their opinions?

BTW, for all those who have this extreme hatred for all things MSM, where do you suggest I get my current events information? Bloggers? Twitter? Facebook? YouTube? These seem to be appropriate news sources for many on the site. I think I'll stick with biased reporters.

Ever heard of a newspaper? You should check them out.

reply to post by searching4truth


Actually, the Fox reporter does site a source, although her source will likely not come on air to confirm her story, she does claim to have a source. CNN on the other hand has their gut feeling.

Once again, as I've stated, and so have most other people in this thread. Lying is not acceptable from any news source.

I've got the kids tenderizing my shoe for me as I type....

Originally posted by searching4truth
The argument of "oh they all do it" is tired and false in this instance. I will give you that at this point it seems that news, particularly cable news, slant or cover things that serve their own political perspective. However, they do not all air false stories.

Also, IF other networks do air false stories it doesn't excuse Fox in this situation, two, three, four wrongs do not make a right. Every network that does this needs to be publicly called on it, it needs to acknowledged.

However, Fox stands by the story, no retraction, no blaming of a misinformed source, just that they stand by the story.

Perhaps, everyone that currently finds themselves in need of work should submit their resumes to news networks as fact checkers, there seem to be a plethora of openings in that field.

They sure didn't stand by their Ron Paul fiasco for very long now did they? It took....what.....less than a week for them to retract their story and place blame on a video editor?

reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand


Yes!! Because newspapers are not part of the MSM! Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Wanna hear about my local newspaper? Town of 2000 people, full of arrest reports and deaths, also the only paper we have easy access to is a weekly paper owned by the parents of the Parish Sheriff. I'm sure they are in no way biased.... I'm so glad you've set me straight!

Wanna hear about the national papers? They are run by the same corrupt money hungry business men as the news you see on TV.

Originally posted by Larrelye
reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand

 

Yes!! Because newspapers are not part of the MSM! Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Wanna hear about my local newspaper? Town of 2000 people, full of arrest reports and deaths, also the only paper we have easy access to is a weekly paper owned by the parents of the Parish Sheriff. I'm sure they are in no way biased.... I'm so glad you've set me straight!

Wanna hear about the national papers? They are run by the same corrupt money hungry business men as the news you see on TV.

No, I really don't wanna hear about your little podunk town. I didn't ask. Maybe you should get out and do something about that. Not my problem, it's yours. I live 400 miles away from Dallas/Ft.Worth, and yet I get their newspapers every morning. Who said ANYTHING about National Newspapers? I sure didn't.

Thank you for pointing that out to me. I'm glad to have set you straight.

Originally posted by Larrelye
reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand

 

Yes!! Because newspapers are not part of the MSM! Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Wanna hear about my local newspaper? Town of 2000 people, full of arrest reports and deaths, also the only paper we have easy access to is a weekly paper owned by the parents of the Parish Sheriff. I'm sure they are in no way biased.... I'm so glad you've set me straight!

Wanna hear about the national papers? They are run by the same corrupt money hungry business men as the news you see on TV.

Exactly. While it's true that perhaps the most nonbiased news you'll receive is from the local paper (well excluding local government of course) , the local paper barely covers national news, let alone international news. I had a subscription to the NYT for a long time, at the time it was considered "the best", however it is fairly obvious they lean to the left.

At the current time, I've been watching a lot of RT for t.v. news, I won't deny they have their own bias but with regard to all the other networks at the moment they present news with the least amount of slant.

reply to post by CastleMadeOfSand


No problem! I'm sure the Dallas newspaper does not follow the same rules as every other news media. You know. The one where the cater to the views of their customers so that they can make money and stay in business. Enjoy your bliss! My point is still valid that its either MSM or the rumor mills for your news source.

reply to post by searching4truth


I also thing RT is a very good source of news. They cover a lot of things that our national media keeps quiet. They were the only news station besides a few local ones that covered the first tea party protests for example(before the republicans took it over).

Originally posted by Larrelye
reply to post by searching4truth

 

Actually, the Fox reporter does site a source, although her source will likely not come on air to confirm her story, she does claim to have a source. CNN on the other hand has their gut feeling.

Once again, as I've stated, and so have most other people in this thread. Lying is not acceptable from any news source.

I've got the kids tenderizing my shoe for me as I type....

Did they discuss the source on tv? I only read the article online www.foxnews.com... . The freshly added preface (added earlier today) simply says he chose not to go.

reply to post by searching4truth

RT? Im intrigued! Would love a link if you wouldnt mind. Thanks!

reply to post by searching4truth


There are 2 videos below the article. The first is what CNN has to say abt it. The 2nd is the story aired on Fox.

Edit: Im referring to the article linked in the first post of this thread I did not see the footage when it aired.

Originally posted by Larrelye
reply to post by searching4truth

 

RT? Im intrigued! Would love a link if you wouldnt mind. Thanks!

surething rt.com...

In my area, Chicago, it's channel 103 but the channel label is LA for some reason I don't understand. If you have a program search function type in rt news channel.

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thanks

wait is it on the bottom of fox's main page or the story's page? I'm not seeing it

Sorry. It's here.
www.rawstory.com...

The one linked in the OP silly! BTW. Thanks for putting up with me and making my first discussion here a pleasant one.

Originally posted by OldCorp

...I think the Fox reporter didn't go because being used as a human shield wouldn't be any fun. Why would any government give reporters a "tour" of a targeted site in the middle of a war? Except to use them as human shields, there is no reason.

exactly. no one put a gun to their heads. they were offered a tour of a facility and they accepted.

how long was the tour, 45 mins. that's a pretty ineffective human shield

reply to post by TKDRL


Ha Ha,how funny!!!....Many of us probably wish we could do that!!....I don't want to spend the money to replace it tho.

reply to post by StarLightStarBright2


Why would you want to replace it? I shot it to rid my life of it's presence, once and for all.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Originally posted by Flatfish


I know that CNN calling Fox News "liars" is a lot like the pot calling the kettle "black," but you'll have to admit that things must be heating up when these two start calling each other out.

The only thing "heating up" is stupidity.

In-fighting is always a pointless distraction.

Got to ask, does it matter? Does it matter whether the human shield is real or not? Does it matter if some reporter claimed it or not? Does it matter if another reporter refutes that claim or not?

In the end there is still a convoy of journalists touring a building and there are still bombs falling.

edit on 22-3-2011 by thisguyrighthere because: (no reason given)

It does matter.

The truth matters.

The media have (even though they do not actually do it) a responsibility to report truthfully to the populace. Without knowledge, without an informed public, we are doomed to become intolerant and destructive. One day, we might even turn on ourselves, if the lies are right. That is not saying that the truth will not affect people to action (depending on the truth), but lies distort. It's propaganda. The lies set a false agenda. Lies breed irrationality and intolerance.

Look at Hitler's propaganda against the Jews. Look at propaganda against Muslims. Once it gets a large enough number of people, and once a large enough number of people believe it, bad things happen.

If it did not matter the validity or the truthfulness of what we see or hear then we are doomed. What would the point be except apathy?

The truth matters.

And we need someone or some media outlet to call BS when it happens. If nothing can be believed, then what is the point.

Does it matter that bombs are falling or not? Or that journalists are in a convoy or not?

The truth matters.

I don't know what I hate more. CNN's snail-fast reporting, or Fox's architects of the mind...