Fukushima radioactive cloud reaching Europe

Hi all, I believe this hasn't been posted yet. According to a computer model developed by the French Institute for Nuclear Safety IRSN, the radioactive cloud created by Fukushima nuclear plants will reach Europe tomorrow Wednesday 23 March 2011:

IRSN

It's not really clear how severe the radiation levels will be, but it's anyway no good news.

reply to post by Hundroid


Hmmm, can barely understand french Canadian so that link is like Chinese for me, but the video shows a radioactive cloud essentially covering the entire globe. I'm not so sure of the validity of that. If there was this much contamination, going by that video, the us is saturated already and parts of Canada, and the rad detectors would be showing this, which they aren't.

It's hard to tell because of the colors used, the levels of radiation in that video.

Anyone good at french care to elaborate?

agreed, i know it will reach europe, but this looks like this will black out the sun:p

but i do believe we will have some dangerous fallout

Well in Italy official sources are saying that radioactivity levels will be from 1.000 to 10.000 times LESS than Chernobyl fallout (in Italian):

IS PRA

Probably there's nothing to be concerned about. But it's anyway interesting to notice how a nuclear accident can have impact thousands of miles away.

Well it apparently passed through US and the readings stayed in the 20-30 which is pretty low. I think you guys will fine..

So it has come all the way across the Pacific Ocean across North America then across the Atlantic Ocean to Europe?


I'm pretty dam sure if this is indeed true the radiation levels will be next to nothing even if Fukushima was on the scale of the Chernobyl disaster which it wasn't

Darkened:

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Entertaining graphics...

Just to paint a picture for ya:

The current level of radiation in Tokyo (not counting the food or water) is less than it is in Stockholm on a normal day. Yes, the cloud might travel the world and see magnificent places, but it will be so diluted that it wont be damaging in the way that you are imagining.
Fear mongering this is...

Thank you for posting this. I had a look at it earlier today.

I am a French speaker and there are a couple of things I'd like to point out:

Where it says "polluant emis", it is referring to the polluting agent that this graph is charting, and it specifically states that this agent is CS-137. So that is the only element being tracked.

Under the title where it says "concentration moyenne", it refers to the average concentration from 0 meters to 500 meters. A meter is about 3 feet.

I think we need an expert here to give us some idea of what this actually implies. Are they saying that all of planet earth has been contaminated with CS-137, and if so, what does this mean for the biosphere and humanity?

reply to post by antoinemarionette


As far as I understand from the Italian source above posted, nothing to be worried about. No intention of fear mongering, as claimed by another post.

Looks like the whole globe will be affected ... does this mean the start of 2012...maybe??? what effect will this have in the future?

reply to post by Alpal

Looks like the whole globe will be affected

Yes, according to the French graphic

does this mean the start of 2012...maybe???

Not at all, 2012 starts on 1/1/2012

what effect will this have in the future?

Probably no effects at all, if what the official sources say is true.

reply to post by Hundroid


One of the reasons I'm on this forum is because I don't buy the party line from authorities about everything being just fine. I want to know the implications of what is a very dangerous element being spread around the world, albeit in low concentrations. It will certainly have some effect of some kind on some form of life.

Quote from Wikipedia:
Caesium-137 is water-soluble and chemically toxic in small amounts. The biological behavior of caesium-137 is similar to that of potassium and rubidium. After entering the body, caesium gets more or less uniformly distributed through the body, with higher concentration in muscle tissues and lower in bones. The biological half-life of caesium is rather short at about 70 days.[4] Experiments with dogs showed that a single dose of 3800 μCi/kg (approx. 44 μg/kg of caesium-137) is lethal within three weeks.

Not at all, 2012 starts on 1/1/2012

Doesn’t it start on the 21/12/12 technically

But i see where you’re coming from, my bad


What i meant was.... Could it be the start of the series of events leading up to 2012

Originally posted by Alpal

Not at all, 2012 starts on 1/1/2012

Doesn’t it start on the 21/12/12 technically

But i see where you’re coming from, my bad

What i meant was.... Could it be the start of the series of events leading up to 2012

Referring to the Mayan calendar

reply to post by antoinemarionette


I agree with you that some more detailed explanations about possible effects on human/animal/vegetal health of CS137 floating in the air would be welcome. Because as you say official sources cannot be 100% reliable just for definition, we definitely need an expert not linked to governments giving his/her comments. Is there anybody out of there?

reply to post by Alpal

What i meant was.... Could it be the start of the series of events leading up to 2012

Actually the events leading up to 2012 began - staying in 2011 - on New Year's Eve with the birds/fishes die-offs. Then the North African upraisings. I have to admit that in my opinion things are escalating in the last ten/fifteen years but I am very skeptical about 2012, especially after reading tons of articles about Mayan calendaries.

Well... All we need to do is wait and see

reply to post by Alpal


Agreed.

reply to post by antoinemarionette


I found this, but it is just wikipedia...

"Caesium-137 is water-soluble and chemically toxic in small amounts. The biological behavior of caesium-137 is similar to that of potassium and rubidium. After entering the body, caesium gets more or less uniformly distributed through the body, with higher concentration in muscle tissues and lower in bones. The biological half-life of caesium is rather short at about 70 days.[4] Experiments with dogs showed that a single dose of 3800 μCi/kg (approx. 44 μg/kg of caesium-137) is lethal within three weeks.[5]"

en.wikipedia.org...

Hope this helps a little. It seems it could have an effect in small doses....