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Originally posted by Somehumanbeing
reply to post by JibbyJedi
It works both ways. If ridicule was "Stamped out" as the OP suggested, then there would be far more people believing the Sun revolves around the Earth s.
There is no such thing as a highest possible number. No matter what number you have, there is always a larger one. (For example, you could always add 1 to your number to get a larger number). What you are intending to ask is "what is the largest number that anyone has ever decided to give a specific name to?" It is very important to understand that this is a completely different question from the one you asked, because it is a question about human culture not about mathematics. The largest number that has a commonly-known specific name is a "googleplex", which is a 1 followed by a googol zeros, where a "googol" is (IMAGE) (a 1 followed by 100 zeros).
of the smart of the monkey/human population
Originally posted by Seekeye2
Originally posted by 46ACE
Originally posted by Seekeye2
Originally posted by Somehumanbeing
If you eliminate ridicule for far-fetched ideas we'll find ourselves developing technology that is outright fraudulous and a waste of money. The current state of ridicule is excellent, every new idea must first meet the onslaught of the intellectuals and if it makes it through it is viable as a technological breakthrough. It is it's "test"
There is nothing that needs changing here.
There is big difference between Ridicule and Debate don't you think?
Seekeye2:
"Facts" are not "debateable" .or they wouldn't be "facts."
"What wine"goes" with hormel chili? is President Obama a "good"choice for the job? all that personally subjective stuff is "debateable,
What goes on here is less debate and more "education"in basic commonly taught and accepted science.and math.
Look: Iam not saying "we will never tap into an energy source fron outside our: (Mem) "brane" (i.e. dimemsion) ! but if we do it will still follow the laws of thermodynamics including "entropy" and conservation of energy.Or it wil be an entirely new class of something and require new physics to understand it. but to jump on here screaming:"Tesla had it all figured out 100+ years ago and here's: "PROOF" is not "debate" it's "masturbation": it feels good but means little.edit on 22-3-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
So are you saying that we can't debate the facts and how they can be utilized and applied in order to prove or disprove a theory?
Originally posted by Seekeye2
Originally posted by 46ACE
Originally posted by Seekeye2
Originally posted by Somehumanbeing
If you eliminate ridicule for far-fetched ideas we'll find ourselves developing technology that is outright fraudulous and a waste of money. The current state of ridicule is excellent, every new idea must first meet the onslaught of the intellectuals and if it makes it through it is viable as a technological breakthrough. It is it's "test"
There is nothing that needs changing here.
There is big difference between Ridicule and Debate don't you think?
Seekeye2:
"Facts" are not "debateable" .or they wouldn't be "facts."
"What wine"goes" with hormel chili? is President Obama a "good"choice for the job? all that personally subjective stuff is "debateable,
What goes on here is less debate and more "education"in basic commonly taught and accepted science.and math.
Look: Iam not saying "we will never tap into an energy source fron outside our: (Mem) "brane" (i.e. dimemsion) ! but if we do it will still follow the laws of thermodynamics including "entropy" and conservation of energy.Or it wil be an entirely new class of something and require new physics to understand it. but to jump on here screaming:"Tesla had it all figured out 100+ years ago and here's: "PROOF" is not "debate" it's "masturbation": it feels good but means little.edit on 22-3-2011 by 46ACE because: (no reason given)
So are you saying that we can't debate the facts and how they can be utilized and applied in order to prove or disprove a theory?
Originally posted by derst1988
Facts. Wouldn't it be nice to have some real solid facts? I ask this because what can we claim as absolute truth? Something that we know how to measure? But in order to know how to measure you need to think, and in order to think, you perceive. As we know, perception is just perception, not truth. Anything we can perceive and call a "truth" needs a added adjective before it, and that adjective is "relative." Relative Truths are what we have and nothing more. Why should someone be chastised for thinking upon things that are not yet relative?
This denial of "stepping outside of the box" style of thinking is really a fault that a lot of people have. Same as only looking at the litteral meaning of words and sentences, while in the next token say something that has a cognitive meaning in our society that could be perceived as something totally different in another.
Every single thought that occurs in our heads, comes from a pre-perceived input. Our thought is a process and the output is controlled by the inputs.
Excellent way to put it - precisely my thoughts! 'Give Thought A Chance' without it we would still be in the caves - deserves so much respect. CONSTRUCTIVE Critique - YES RIDICULE AND RUDENESS - I say NO!
Guidance and teaching for the New - Progressive Thinking for the Old.
Originally posted by mespen
reply to post by Seekeye2
good work
A nice chunk of quotes , which, without joining in with the 'ridicule/critisize' debate that your post has attracted.
Can i add that these quotes came back and 'bit' the arses of the experts of there times, people that we would of all paid great attention to at there spoken time.
Even the worlds greatest minds can make hugh mistakes, unfortunatly there mistakes will never be forgotten.
It seems we can only believe the science of today, and not hold our breath for the science predicted for tomorrow.
Also, can i make a point to critisize those people who are ridiculeing those that are critisiezing the people that are ridiculeing the critisizers.
When we consider the following we are forced to reconsider the science we believe in today - what is the alternative, I don't know but we certainly need to think about this very carefully. Especially those debunkers who love to jump in so quickly without any evidence whatsoever for their debunking and continual quotes paraphrasing this scientific report or that scientific theory. I can take a good debunker but not a bad one and ATS should make it a rule that if you are going to debunk then provide the evidence or but out.
Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by Seekeye2
When we consider the following we are forced to reconsider the science we believe in today - what is the alternative, I don't know but we certainly need to think about this very carefully. Especially those debunkers who love to jump in so quickly without any evidence whatsoever for their debunking and continual quotes paraphrasing this scientific report or that scientific theory. I can take a good debunker but not a bad one and ATS should make it a rule that if you are going to debunk then provide the evidence or but out.
I don't suspect that you will have noticed or even accept my observation here but... the words quoted just above? Shall I change a few of them and detail just how close your avid devotion sounds like belief in deity or faith?
Seriously, it does read like religious doctrine: God is real because no one can disprove His existence. So, unless you can make me believe you, don't debunk... do even speak.
The Church followed this doctrine for centuries and along the way, smashed to pieces all arguments to the contrary.
If science gets it right, it will hold itself up as a freestanding truth. It will not require any forced acceptance.
This goes for all aspects of life. Truth holds its own.
Originally posted by Seekeye2
When we consider the following we are forced to reconsider the science we believe in today - what is the alternative, I don't know but we certainly need to think about this very carefully.
Originally posted by obelisk2012
Just because an invention is commercially successful does not make it a good invention.
I have some quotes about TV for you people. Even though they are criticisms truer words have never been spoken.
The triumph of machine over people. ~Fred Allen, about television
If the television craze continues with the present level of programs, we are destined to have a nation of morons. ~Daniel Marsh, 1950
Television has raised writing to a new low. ~Samuel Goldwyn
Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar. ~Edward R. Murrow
Television keeps the masses occupied. What if everyone decided they wanted to make something of their lives? Television keeps the competition down and keeps more criminals off the street. What if everyone decided to go to law school or medical school? It would sure make it tough on the rest of us. ~Jim Urbanovich
It's the menace that everyone loves to hate but can't seem to live without. ~Paddy Chayevsky
Television: A medium - so called because it is neither rare nor well done. ~Ernie Kovacs
All television is educational television. The question is: what is it teaching? ~Nicholas Johnson
Philo began laying out his vision for what television could become. Above all else... television would become the world's greatest teaching tool. Illiteracy would be wiped out. The immediacy of television was the key. As news happened viewers would watch it unfold live; no longer would we have to rely on people interpreting and distorting the news for us. We would be watching sporting events and symphony orchestras. Instead of going to the movies, the movies would come to us. Television would also bring about world peace. If we were able to see people in other countries and learn about our differences, why would there be any misunderstandings? War would be a thing of the past. ~Evan I. Schwartz, The Last Lone Inventor, about Philo T. Farnsworth, the inventor of television
Your cable television is experiencing difficulties. Please do not panic. Resist the temptation to read or talk to loved ones. Do not attempt sexual relations, as years of TV radiation have left your genitals withered and useless. ~Matt Groening, The Simpsons
"But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared." -Fry
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