NO radiation in USA

Originally posted by routerboy

The government will not lie to you on this one - too many people can check if they are lying. The real truth is, the government very rarely lies to it's citizens these days because they will be too easily caught out. We're living in great times at the minute.

edit on 20-3-2011 by routerboy because: (no reason given)

Your posts including this one sound worst than a shady used car salesman.

If you are going to spew propaganda, at least dish out some stuff that will at least fool a child!!

Jeez man!!

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


He said it was due to the produce ate at the farm which was contaminated. The UK is NOT still "radiated".

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Just to add that the food comes from the ground and areas are still unfit to grow crops or feed livestock on. Admitedly there is now only a small area that is unfit to grow things in but all the same it is still not safe.
Surely you remember the sheep not being allowed to be sold because of contamination with radiation?

Please can we keep to the topic here - there is NO radiation in the US of A. We are clean and there is nothing to worry about in respect to the Fukushima radiation leaks.

At this point the levels are not harmful. That doesn't mean they don't have the POTENTIAL to be, I agree there but chances are that it will not cross the pacific and still be the amount that people who are panicking about this are saying it will, there are too many variables that will occur during transit between Japan and the west coast and I honestly don't think a "deadly" plume is all that likely. I could be wrong, I have made preparations, but I'm not panicking about it and downing KI like some people are just begging to do. Still doesn't change my belief.

I think whats even more ridiculous than people going into doomsday mode over this (or from the otherside if you want to believe it's ridiculous for people to NOT be going into doomsday mode) is the fact that a good chunk of people are still believing that the earthquake was because of HAARP and all of this is on the NWO agenda and this is the beginning of the mass population cull.

Of course I think the whole NWO / Illuminati coverup thing is absolutely absurd anyways though

Does the government tell you everything? No, of course not...there's probably dozens and dozens of near misses and almost catastrophic situations that we don't know about than we do realistically. The population needs to be kept in the dark some times unless we want all hell to break loose over something that may or may not happen that we may or may not have control over anyways. I'd rather not have a bunch of riots and looting over a situation that may be a near miss myself. Sometimes ignorance as they say, is bliss.

I think its retarded to think everything about everything ties into government cover up and NWO though...but that's just me.

Originally posted by routerboy
there is NO radiation in the US of A. We are clean and there is nothing to worry about in respect to the Fukushima radiation leaks.

You have presented ZERO evidence to support your claim, just as those of us on the other side of the coin have done. Until we are given the full info we know nothing.

Please stop presenting your opinion as fact.

Originally posted by routerboy
I didn't see this posted, if it has, MODS please move appropriately.

"WASHINGTON – The United States Government has an extensive network of radiation monitors around the country and no radiation levels of concern have been detected. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency RadNet system is designed to protect the public by notifying scientists, in near real time, of elevated levels of radiation so they can determine whether protective action is required. The EPA’s system has not detected any radiation levels of concern."

blog.energy.gov...

Your headline is misleading. It does not reflect what the quote you have included exactly says.

The budget for domestic nuclear detection and radiation this year is $306m - that figure alone should give us as US citizens some degree of comfort. The US government takes our safety VERY seriously.

i wounder if you saw the babies born after cernobal contamination
you would be spouting this drivel
i have seen the long lasting after effects documented from the russian release
and the type, amount, and storage of spent rods at the site is expected to be up to 10 times the russian event

to say there is nothing to worry about
i respectfully ask you to look for some documentarys on the people who were effected first by chernobal
then spout your drivel
because if you saw those deformed babies you would not be saying the things you are "not going to effect anyone"
EVER ONE is allowed an opinion but your attitude lacks concideration to the "reality" of radio active dust contamination

xploder (trying not to go off at op)

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That is not relevant to this thread. Radiation may very well have affected those in Russia... but this situation is completely different. We as Americans have nothing to worry about! It's a simple as that!! You should be smiling!!

Originally posted by routerboy
The budget for domestic nuclear detection and radiation this year is $306m - that figure alone should give us as US citizens some degree of comfort. The US government takes our safety VERY seriously.

Seriously, I'd like to see where that info came from and just what that money is spent on because something tells me the majority of that money is spent on watching other nations nuclear activities.

The US government takes our safety VERY seriously.

I have to ask..... Do you work for the government?

Originally posted by Essan
Sorry m8, unless you can disprove it with some kind of linked article its just your opinion.

John Urquhart is entitled to his opinion. But it's still BS. He has no evidence to support his contention. He just misuses and misinterprets data to suit his own agenda. But there are always people who are willing to believe what they want to believe....

Quite..., and indeed he is entitled to his opinion Essan, as is everyone. The difference is Mr Urquhart, journalist at The Independent, has a platform.

I honestly cannot for the life of me recall ANY incident within the UK which supports his opinion. I believe if there had been, the likes of The Sun, Mirror, Express and Daily Mail would've been all over it. Objectively, attributing just 1000 infant deaths directly to the aftermath of Chernobyl would be extremely tenuous, to say it is definitively so is an absolute out & out lie.

To put it in context, they claim red meat causes cancer. Too much exposure to sunlight causes cancer. Breast feeding causes cancer. Life itself causes cancer. I know for a fact there would be no way of directly attributing any Chernobyl after effects to the deaths of these infants simply because it would be impossible to isolate that as the cause.

HTH

Originally posted by routerboy
reply to post by XPLodER

 

That is not relevant to this thread. Radiation may very well have affected those in Russia... but this situation is completely different. We as Americans have nothing to worry about! It's a simple as that!! You should be smiling!!

you are sadly misinformed about the threat
you are trying to calm fears
i understand that
but to misinform others about the long term dangers of radio active dust particles
is a concern.

the exact same govenment story was told to the people of russia
no signs of radiation
nothing to worry about

WARNING graffic content follows of the deformities suffered by the "local" population surrounding
the reactor

these are the effects of absorbing radioactive dust particles. (not embeded because of content)
www.youtube.com...

the dust particles if injested are very dangerous
and to say they could or would not make the USA is WRONG
to say there is no health effects is WRONG

please watch the video op to see the scale of what WILL happen in japan
xploder

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Not everyone who agrees with the government works for them. That information is freely available, just google "US departmental Budget 2011" and you'll find the pdf.

radio active dust particulates were found as far away as new zealand and antartica
from the chernobal event
what makes you think america is safe from these particles
when the cernobal dust made it accross to the other side of the world?
these particles if injested are deadly
so is america at NO RISK?
the mox fuel is much much more dangerous the the fuel from cernobal
and there is ten times the spent rods on site (mostly not mox)

xploder

Originally posted by chocise

I honestly cannot for the life of me recall ANY incident within the UK which supports his opinion. I believe if there had been, the likes of The Sun, Mirror, Express and Daily Mail would've been all over it. Objectively, attributing just 1000 infant deaths directly to the aftermath of Chernobyl would be extremely tenuous, to say it is definitively so is an absolute out & out lie.

Again this is opinion. Can you post any report or article that debunks what I have posted? I have listed sources, where are yours?

Originally posted by routerboy
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

Not everyone who agrees with the government works for them. That information is freely available, just google "US departmental Budget 2011" and you'll find the pdf.

You sidestepped my question eloquently.

Do you work for the government?

And there's no way I'm going to read through the budget. You posted the info, now support it with a source.

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It's in the "Homeland Security" chapter.
I do not work for the US government.

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Since you made me dig up YOUR source, her ya go.

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Is this what you meant, because if it is then what they are spending money on is building security.



Yep, building security. This money is not for measuring airborne radiation around the USA.

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Muzzleflash, you know full well that these remedies are recommended only for severe trolls!

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