GOP Anti_Choice Bill

I'll believe there is a "pro-choice' movement in the United States when I see one. Thus far, the so called "pro-choice" movement is in regards to abortion alone, and their empty rhetoric of pro-choice is as empty as the Christian rights empty rhetoric of being "pro-life".

Pro choice? Then you are an advocate of decriminalizing illicit drug use. You are an advocate of decriminalizing prostitution and the scads of other so called "victimless crimes" that stain the legislative books in this country. It is rare I meet a pro abortion person willing to advocate the decriminalization of "victimless crimes"...just as rare as it is to meet a anti abortion person criticize the death penalty or question the validity of war.

Language is important, and if we are not careful how we choose our words then language speaks us and we do not speak language. Neither the GOP or the other political party are genuinely for "choice" and both have conspired to regulate the crap out of your lives.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

I'll believe their is a "pro-choice' movement in the United States when I see one. Thus far, the so called "pro-choice" movement is in regards to abortion alone, and their empty rhetoric of pro-choice is as empty as the Christian rights empty rhetoric of being "pro-life".

That is what the pro choice movement is about, just about the choice a woman has to control her own body and make decisions for herself about her body, specifically whether or not to have a child. It doesn't go beyond that. It shouldn't go beyond that, to do so would cloud the message.

The pro legalization movement has as much relevance to the Roe V Wade issue as the Pro Choice movement has with the freeman movement. Sometimes things just aren't related. It's not hypocracy, its just that these two things don't have any relevance to each other.

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That is what the pro choice movement is about, just about the choice a woman has to control her own body and make decisions for herself about her body, specifically whether or not to have a child. It doesn't go beyond that. It shouldn't go beyond that, to do so would cloud the message.

Who do you think you're kidding? The decision to call what is essentially a pro abortion movement "pro choice" was done specifically to cloud the issue and to deflect from the obvious disdain that a word such as abortion engenders. There is no pro choice movement in the United States, there is this pro abortion movement, but it is not about choice, it is about abortion.

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There is no pro choice movement in the United States, there is this pro abortion movement, but it is not about choice, it is about abortion.

That's right, it is about abortion, the pro choice movement is all about a woman's right to choose for herself whether or not to have an abortion. A person can be pro choice and still choose to have a child.

Originally posted by rogerstigers

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
What economic class has the most abortions? Lower class and lower middle class.

Um.. wouldn't that be because there are more of us here in the lower and middle classes? Would be a bit strange for the top 10% (meaning 1% of the population, roughly) of income earners to have a majority of abortions, would it not?

edit on 3-19-2011 by rogerstigers because: (no reason given)

Look at the statistics per capita. Nice try though.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Pro choice? Then you are an advocate of decriminalizing illicit drug use. You are an advocate of decriminalizing prostitution and the scads of other so called "victimless crimes" that stain the legislative books in this country.

You've "met" one now. This comes down to whether we want to live in a truly free society or not. To live in a truly free society means to support the rights and actions of others, even people with whom we disagree, as long as those actions do not infringe on the rights of other people.

So street drugs, prostitution, etc yes have no business being illegal.

Before anybody's head explodes, note that there is a difference, for instance, in a person choosing to be a prostitute, and someone being forced to become one. The forcing of someone to perform actions they are opposed to is infringement on the rights of that person so the forcing should be illegal, not the prostitution. To use just one example, hopefully the point is clear.

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That was not a "try" at anything, per se, except to put some statistical reasoning behind the subject. I admit that per-capita did not enter my mind. I would have to say, though, that per-capita abortion numbers aggregated by income would only make sense when laid next to a per-capita pregnancy rate aggregated by the same values. One has to see if the rich get pregnant as often or if they just stay on the really good birth control and / or get their own steralization operations.

The most dangerous place for a black person? Inside the womb, and liberals advance this every chance they get.

Racists.......Right back at ya.....libs.

Wow, this thread sure got flooded with the usual jargon and propaganda really quickly. Maybe we could get a few more people in here to throw out nonsense....

Well done, trolls.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Wow, this thread sure got flooded with the usual jargon and propaganda really quickly. Maybe we could get a few more people in here to throw out nonsense....

Well done, trolls.

Pay no attention to the trolls and do not feed them because like a rabid animal if you do they will never leave you alone. Shoot each and everyone of them down with a barraige of truth overload. Make them warp thier brains trying to figure out a way to one up us.