UN is saying Gadaffi can't attack 'his people'. Aren't his people attacking him?

Update 21.04: The declaration (20.41 and 20.52) states that if Gaddafi does not meet the demands, the UN resolution "will be imposed by military means". The countries reiterated again that the Libyan leader "immediately" to stop attacking the people

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Here's a thought someone can hep me with; So the UN is saying he can't attack 'his people'. Seems reasonable. Then again, aren't his people attacking him?

So, is the UN effectively saying he can't fight back?

I'm sure there's far more to this than this, but it's a start.

Any thoughts, ideas?

Hmm... I realize this is maybe not 'breaking news', and if a moderator wants to move it to a more appropriate section that would be fine. Thanks.

People of Libya want a change of government. You do this by becoming a democracy and holding elections. You don't do it by using tanks and planes. Can you hear Gadaffi?

Originally posted by alldaylong
People of Libya want a change of government. You do this by becoming a democracy and holding elections. You don't do it by using tanks and planes. Can you hear Gadaffi?

I don't think Ghadaffi is trying to implement "Democracy". He's trying to maintain control of a military dictatorship. Tanks and planes are quite handy for that.

reply to post by incrediblelousminds


No, but the people were trying to implement Democracy... UNtil Ghadaffi started shooting at them

Originally posted by SpreadLoveNotHate
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

No, but the people were trying to implement Democracy... UNtil Ghadaffi started shooting at them

Democracy? Are they? All of them?

Anyway, they are also taking strategic points with FORCE, and have been for weeks. Gadaffi is responding in kind. I'm just wondering if there is as much of a double-standard here as I am seeing at first glance.

Originally posted by SpreadLoveNotHate
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

No, but the people were trying to implement Democracy... UNtil Ghadaffi started shooting at them

I don't buy in to this whole they want democracy thing - no vote has been taken so that's not a very democratic approach to democracy if you ask me.

Don't believe for a second this new war is for a humanitarian cause! WAKE UP! It's for the oil - like it always has been.

Iraq: 180,000,000,000 bbl (World rank - 2)

Libya: 41,000,000,000 bbl (World rank - 10)

US: 21,000,000,000 bbl (World rank - 12)
...
Estimated Afghanistan oil: 1,800,000,000 bbl

"Afghanistan said on 15/08/2010 it had discovered an oilfield with an estimated 1.8 billion barrels in the north of the war-ravaged country, where U.S. and other foreign forces are trying to tame a Taliban-led insurgency."
www.reuters.com...

Coincidence, that the US happened to be fighting in the part of Afghanistan that the massive new oil reserves were found increasing Afghanistans reserves 10 times?
Coincidence, that the next target of the UN which is mostly comprised of US forces is Libya, ranked 10th in the world for oil?

oil oil oil (probably) lies lies lies

Its not "his" people.
A dictator is never chosen. Soon he will be forced to step down, the world wants him to.
He and his sons better leave soon or face the bitter result of their horrific actions.
Power to the people!

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by SpreadLoveNotHate
reply to post by incrediblelousminds

 

No, but the people were trying to implement Democracy... UNtil Ghadaffi started shooting at them

Democracy? Are they? All of them?

Anyway, they are also taking strategic points with FORCE, and have been for weeks. Gadaffi is responding in kind. I'm just wondering if there is as much of a double-standard here as I am seeing at first glance.

You are on the right path with this thread and your line of thinking OP.I can't believe how many fools are buying into this nonsense .If a group disgruntled with Goverment tried this in America or Britain they wouldn't be labeled beloved rebels now would they ? No they would be labeled terrorist's and hunted down like dogs .
So the UN and friends are now publicly supporting terrorist's ?

Rebels - Terrorists , this is nothing but word majic and manipulation ! How can people be so stupid and decieved ?
Both forementioned groups both have the same argument with their Goverment , both react the same and have the same objective .So how does Rebel = Good - Terrorist's = Bad . It's all in a name ! Both parties are Identical !

People you are being decived ! Question anything that is so good that it needs to be installed by a gun ! Is democracy now a dirty word ?

Originally posted by alldaylong
People of Libya want a change of government. You do this by becoming a democracy and holding elections. You don't do it by using tanks and planes. Can you hear Gadaffi?

Oh really ? Tell that to the people who are trying to over throw the Goverment by force with guns , thats not exactly an election either now is it ?

How can anyone with an opened mind call this sham war a fight for democracy.
It seems the first attempt to remove gadaffi is failing so now there rolling out the big gunns(UN)
All these so called revalutions of the people in the mid east are about uniting the mid east under sharia law.

Originally posted by Mazedays

All these so called revalutions of the people in the mid east are about uniting the mid east under sharia law.

I don't think that is true. You can't generalize the opinions of millions of people. It's hardly surprising that people are getting fed-up with living at the whims of brutal dictators armed by either the West or Russia.

Do you have any evidence to support your theory, or is this just an opinion of yours?

Gadaffi has every right to self defense IMO. And we (the USA) should keep our noses out of it. Why is everyone wanting to help the Lybians and didnt say anything when all the Iranians were being killed last year? Why isnt anyone wanting to help all those who are being killed in Yemen today?

Its all one big sham... Like one poster said, if it happened here, we would be considered terrorists. And we would be killed by our government. Would the UN stand up and keep us from getting killed by Obama and his goon squad? Hell no they wouldnt........

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Sorry, but I have to ask:

Obama's goon squad? Who are you referring to?

He seized power in a military coup in 1969.

He has no more right to rule than anyone else. His family has looted the country's vast oil wealth.

Seems only fitting that the people of the country rise up and take their country back.

(Edit: posted but incomplete so reposting )

In 2009 it was reported that British "SAS May Be Training Libyan Special Forces"

news.sky.com... 5380378?f=rss


This seem to be a recurring theme of training up forces and then attacking them.

Originally posted by Wildbob77
He seized power in a military coup in 1969.

He has no more right to rule than anyone else. His family has looted the country's vast oil wealth.

Seems only fitting that the people of the country rise up and take their country back.

Yeah, i'm not defending the guy. I just find a bit of dissonance in this notion that 'his people' (UN's wording) are allowed to use military force against him, but he apparently isn't allowed to retaliate?Seems kinda funny to me.

But I clearly don't have any love for the guy.

What is also incredibly funny is that Gadhafi agree'd to a ceasefire and for a mediator to come in to stop this whole thing, but the rebels declined.

Then he ordered the citizens to flee the city to not get hit in the crossfire.

Just seems strange...

reply to post by BiGGz


I'm not following this all that closely, and have not come across that info yet.

Can you post a source or two? Thanks.