An act of terrorism is being conducted as we speak...

reply to post by eastbosbud

Hmmm...Not sure if its all the topics about 2012 or EQ but I have been seeing such looney threads pop up a lot lately


Or Indeed the end times are near and such looney threads are just a sign ?

What is loony is sheeple's inability or unwillingness to pursue the TRUTH and our Government's audacity at committing such a crime in the first place.

Originally posted by eastbosbud
What is loony is sheeple's inability or unwillingness to pursue the TRUTH and our Government's audacity at committing such a crime in the first place.

Never mind.

Have fun. I've seen one too many of such threads. You can have all the fun you want. I already did.

Adios.

reply to post by eastbosbud


The "tonnes of unknown chemicals" can now be revealed.

The primary component is the very dangerous "Dihydrogen Monoxide" molecule. It can be found in many forms, can exist in a gas, liquid or solid state (depending on temperature and pressure).

Here is a brief video that outlines some examples:






Also, another clip from the TV Cable Channel, "Showtime"...the award-winning program "Bull$!!!" with comedians/magicians Penn & Teller:

reply to post by weedwhacker

Check out the above video..."WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THE SPRAYING?'...chemtrails are much more than H2O

Originally posted by eastbosbud
Check out the above video..."WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THE SPRAYING?'...chemtrails are much more than H2O

Chemtrails vs contrails - just a case of semantics? IMO, hardly! For those non-believers or skeptics, substitute the word geo-engineering for chemtrails and do an internet search! I live in an area high in commercial and military air traffic.....I never personally noticed "chemtrails" until 2 years ago (although I'd read about them). I can assure you, the airspace around my city (and home) are bombarded (with whatever they are spraying) almost on a daily basis. I know the difference in the sound of the jets that are doing the spraying. They are distinctly different! The "contrails" that linger soon envelope the sky in all directions, turning it into a greyish/white "fog" that obliterates the sunshine. These jets do not fly at the same level as the commercial and military aircraft. The contrails from the latter usually dissipate within 2 minutes. abovetopsecret

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Are you aware that geoengeering advocates have stated that due to the tiny size of the particles needed to produce a cooling effect on the planet that the particles will be invisible to the naked eye? Its just like volcanic dust being so fine that we cannot see it from the ground but its up there and can clog up a jet engine.

The particles needed to effect geoengineering are to small and would be dispersed to thinly for human eyes to see they are there. I hope this fact helps calm your nerves.

You cannot, by the way, substitute geogengineering, cloud seeding, or any other phrase for "chemtrails" to confirm chemtrails exist. Thats false association and no rational person would fall for it.

reply to post by eastbosbud


No......you have been bamboozled, along with a good number of other people:

..."WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THE SPRAYING?

...is a COMPLETE utter lie of trash and crap "filmmaking". You may be interested in hearing one of the principals behind the film, a Mr. Michael J. Murphy, as he ranted last week (12 March, 2011) on the "ATS Live" radio show. You may hear the past shows on tape re-broadcast by following the links.

Mr. Murphy was a RUDE, and obnoxious "guest" whose utter exaggerated drivel, and attempts to shout down (and even accuse the radio host of being a "disinfo agent") showed his true colors....and they are very, very ugly.

The man is, IMO, delusional. It is sad that those people can, in this modern age, make and distribute such garbage, and not be held accountable for the lies and deceptions that are contained within it.


HERE, a concise run-down about the "WITWATS" nonsense:

contrailscience.com...


I suggest you spend some time clicking through many other aspects of that site, it is LOADED with good, factual information.

"chem"-trails are a HOAX. It is a "pseudo"-science load of hogwash, and only those who are very gullible, and ill-informed cannot see the hoax for what it truly is.

A careful look at the dozens and dozens of conflicting "theories" out there should be your first clue: A "concept" that cannot even settle on one theme is very strong sign that it is false.....and, the ones who perpetrate this hoax enjoy the spoils of their efforts. [i]Some because it strokes their egos, and others manage to actually earn profits off of the gullible "believers".


"There are three types of "chem"-trail believers: The confused; the paranoid; and, the profiteer."

(Anon.)

reply to post by Toots


You linked at the end to an ATS thread about "Ted Gunderson".

It has been determined, just by examining his MANY claims, that the poor man is not all there....not of sound mind.

He is either suffering from early-onset senile dementia, or some other as-yet-undiagnosed mental malady.

Some countries regard geo-engineering projects costing billions of dollars as a way to control climate change by cutting the amount of sunlight hitting the earth or soaking up excess greenhouse gas emissions, particularly carbon dioxide. "It's absolutely inappropriate for a handful of governments in industrialized countries to make a decision to try geo-engineering without the approval of all the world's support," Pat Mooney, from Canada-headquartered advocacy organization ETC Group, told Reuters on the sidelines of the October 18-29 meeting.

Additional info at source of quote

Additional forum threads for those at ATS that want to contribute their experiences with chemtrails.

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Are you purposefully ignoring that information about the particles in the PROPOSED geoengineering techniques being to small for human eyes to see? It comes from the "horse's mouth" (the geoengineers) so i'd say its a pretty reliable source.

Ignoring conflicting rational scientific information while continuing to espouse the ignorance that is the "chemtrail hoax" is indicative that you to suffer from a confirmation bias. Please open up your mind and realize that there is a lot of science as to why "chemtrails" are a hoax and so far only psuedoscience for why they actually exist.

Originally posted by Hawking
I'm in Lubbock, west Texas right now. The sky is clear blue with no clouds anywhere like it almost always is and the sun's shining. Never seen any chemtrails here (or anywhere else for that matter). You're welcome to come fly your kite here

edit on 18-3-2011 by Hawking because: (no reason given)

Have to agree with this guy. I live close to Ft Bragg and I don't ever see any chemtrails in the sky, most of the time it's so blue and gorgeous. Sometimes it's spotted with white fluff. Those are clouds, natural phenomena.

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Actually, I was agreeing with you - persistent contrails are almost entirely moisture, not imperfect combustion left overs (smoke).

I do see there are massive amounts of experimentation and deployments being scattered across our skies.

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Well for something being a hoax it is funny that our own government has a law that expressly names chemtrails H.R. 2977
In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii)CHEMTRAILS
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

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If you have a tonne of said particles in a bin ready for dispersal are they still invisible to the naked eye?...

reply to post by eastbosbud

So what really happened? In a nutshell, Kucinich did not write the bill (or read it, until too late), the focus of the bill is nothing to do with chemtrails, it was written by UFO enthusiasts trying to:
1. Nullify a vast conspiracy by the “military-industrial complex”
2. Allow the use of suppressed alien technology for free energy
3. Avoid accidentally shooting down (or scaring away) visiting aliens.
They listed a bunch of weird weapons, including mind control, tectonic weapons and (very briefly) chemtrails. The bill was re-written several time in less unusual language to give it chance of passing, but ultimately fizzled in committee.

The bill was actually written by Carol Rosin

From:
Carol Rosin
[email protected]
1-28-2
Perhaps I can help correct some fuzzy information that is being spread about H.R.3616, the Space Preservation Act of 2002, and Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
This bill will only ban space-based weapons and the use of weapons to destroy or damage objects in space that are in orbit. It is NOT a bill to ban chemtrails and/or psychotronics or mind control devises or any specific weapons listed in the category of definitions in the original bill.
I’m not sure where that rumor started, but in any case, those definitional were only listed on the original bill for definitional purposes…to exemplify what space-based weapons might be deployed in space if the space-based weapons bill isn’t passed. Frequently bills are revised, and things like definitions are removed. No big deal. The legislation is in no way compromised. This Congressman and his legislation maintain their integrity and commitment to ban space-based weapons. It was never a bill to ban chemtrails or mind control technologies.

Even she is admitting here that chemtrails are only mentioned as a space based weapon that MIGHT be deployed, not that they presently exist.

reply to post by eastbosbud


Well....wanna know something really "funny"?? HR 2977 is NOT A LAW!!!

Well for something being a hoax it is funny that our own government has a law that expressly names chemtrails H.R. 2977

MY emphasis, there...where you wrote "has a law".

Firstly.....(not a "law"). It was introduced, BTW, way back in 2001!! (October):

The specific act was HR 2977, the “Space Preservation Act of 2001″

Here....the REAL story behind this fake House Resolution (that was not acted upon!!:

One of the more pervasive myths regarding “chemtrails” is that current presidential candidate..

(...this article is from May, 2007....)

.... Dennis Kucinich tried to have them banned by an act of congress, but was pressured by the government to modify the act to remove the mention of “chemtrails”.

So what really happened? In a nutshell, Kucinich did not write the bill (or read it, until too late), the focus of the bill is nothing to do with chemtrails, it was written by UFO enthusiasts trying to:

Nullify a vast conspiracy by the “military-industrial complex”
Allow the use of suppressed alien technology for free energy
Avoid accidentally shooting down (or scaring away) visiting aliens.
They listed a bunch of weird weapons, including mind control, tectonic weapons and (very briefly) chemtrails. The bill was re-written several time in less unusual language to give it chance of passing, but ultimately fizzled in committee.

Read more from the source.


That boondoggle is constantly being trotted out....here TEN YEARS later!! By the "chem"-faithful. They still fool people....like you.


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edit: I had added the segment from Carol Rosin....but, already done by defcon5 above.....

On the 22nd of March at around 7:15 AM there were some serious chemtrails that could be seen in the haze of the sun rise here in central Illinois. Ive seen the distinctive trails before, but never seen anything that seemed definite to me. However, on the 22nd there were a series of distinctive and perfect "X"'s right in the glare of the rising sun, which was clouded enough to make it easy to look up. I saw one plane which was actively spraying when I was looking at it while driving home on Interstate 72.

Anyway, it was interesting actually seeing one of the crazy "conspiracy theories" on here actually happening. I think its the first "conspiracy theory" related thing i've ever seen.

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my bad i should have said a proposed bill....

anyways explain this .... one single engine on tail section and multiple "contrails" from wings