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Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by hdutton
Again, you are assuming that it is a conspiracy. You are also being highly condescending and have provided no actual information in your post. You apologize, but practically sarcastically. For that reason, my good sir, I must decline your humble apology and ask if you would, pardon my French, get the hell out.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
Since your picture only goes just above the 2nd floor and the left part is covered with smoke it's sort of irrelevant (probably why chose it ) but there's your answer: the "tail" went through the part that's marked, and the engies damaged the spots circled. This is according to the video that follows NIST airplane location. Since the picture you insist on using just shows SMOKE where the plane allegedly went through it's pointless... please don't think that just because you can't see the wall, that it's not there... it IS there, as other photos show.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
Have you wondered WHY you prefer a smoke-covered picture compared to one that shows the portion of interest?? Since we're talking about the upper floors, it would be better to actually see the upper floors, even if the ground floor is covered by water/foam spray.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
the 500 pilots thing - here's your final answer, even though I've already wasted time telling you twice... I had heard it somewhere on ATS over the years, I don't have a source, so please ignore it. I was not lying. I may have been incorrect and if you want to attempt to prove my information is false go for it, but stop saying I was lying. 500 pilots? I DON'T KNOW... forget it. I've said plenty of times to forget it, it's not sourced so let's scratch it from the conversation, please. by the way - it had nothing to do with my conclusion, it was a casual statement.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
For comparison to above, and to prove the wall is still there despite being covered by smoke in your photo.
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by 911files
A composite pic as proof??
What, you don't have a complete original??
Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by hdutton
I've tried to get people here to work together, but no one can agree on even the basic ideas of 9/11. If we can't even agree on what hit the building, how can we work out any coherent scientific theories?
Originally posted by Reheat
Originally posted by 911files
This link posted by 911Files should end this silly thread, but I'm guessing it won't. There are just too many experts here.....
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
Originally posted by Reheat
Originally posted by 911files
This link posted by 911Files should end this silly thread, but I'm guessing it won't. There are just too many experts here.....
If an airplane crashes into the ground floor of a building at 300+ MPH the columns would not be there, and the tail would have either hit somewhere or remained outside. We disagree on this... which is one of the reasons the discussion goes on.
It's actually sort of funny in my opinion, I can't even imagine why someone would think an airplane crashed here because so much of the building remains. And some of you are just as strong and adamant about your opposite opinions.
It's easier bringing a group of Muslims, Jews and Christians to agreement (which is something I do in groups) because at least in religion there's some common spiritual ground... here we're arguing about apparent scientific facts that are mostly unprovable and unmeasurable.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by Reheat
for the record, I don't know killtown and am not, nor have I ever been associated with that usename.
Originally posted by Reheat
First of all, if you previously mentioned the source as ATS, quote it. Otherwise, it is not true. Even assuming it is true that's your first major problem. Just like you, others post a tremendous amount of total BS here. To even consider quoting what someone has posted here is quite unbelievable and explains a lot about your gullibility, critical thinking and academic ability.
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
Originally posted by Reheat
First of all, if you previously mentioned the source as ATS, quote it. Otherwise, it is not true. Even assuming it is true that's your first major problem. Just like you, others post a tremendous amount of total BS here. To even consider quoting what someone has posted here is quite unbelievable and explains a lot about your gullibility, critical thinking and academic ability.
I heard once on ATS that the current US President is Barack Obama, and the one before him was George Bush - I don't recall who said it.
Not having a reference doesn't make it untrue, it means it should be challenged. You've challenged this same idea for post after post after post after post. I am not going to tell you I lied simply because I don't have a source, I've even admitted I don't know if it's true, and recommended you drop it. WHY WON'T YOU DROP IT!!! you win!!!!! Forget it ok?
I can't make it any more clear - the casual statement I said before, that 500+ pilots agreed on something... I've forgotten now even what it was after so many crazy posts by you, it is irrelevant. It was not sourced, you challenged it, I said forget about it, YOU WIN!! ... what more could you possibly want from me?
If you want to look it up yourself and challenge it, go for it - there's nothing more I can offer you. If this 500 pilots thing were a boxing match, I gave up in Round 1... you won, but you kept punching, you won... Round 2... all the spectators left ... Round 3... Round 4... still kicking me.... Round 5... I gave up FOUR rounds ago - just shut up already! YOU WON!
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by Reheat
If you think I'm wrong, then prove me wrong already - you don't have the proof or you would have posted it rather than wasting so many threads on demanding something from me.