Who made the decision to promote mass Muslim Immigration into Australia?

Originally posted by scratcher
I declare Australia a christian country, and we dont expect muslim missionaries to butt in and preach their hatred and extreme visions and lifestyles on our freedom and the country we fought and worked hard for throughout generations. Our founding fathers would be turning in their graves to see the blind puppets leading this once great country.

edit on 19-3-2011 by scratcher because: (no reason given)

If the government does declare so with rules of no preaching then so be it.

Islam isn't about hatred and extreme visions. You don't see them hanging about your backyard, or do you? Are they forcing you to wear things you don't want to? And who exactly did you fight though? You're exaggerating quite a bit. Take it easy fella.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
Can any one of you name just one country where multiculturalism has been successful?

Depends how you define success.

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Originally posted by bluemirage5
Can any one of you name just one country where multiculturalism has been successful?

Don't know about you but I consider Australia as one. Love this place and the diversity it brings.

Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by deccal

 

Noone is superior/inferior just because of their race, and everyone should have basic human rights.

But cultures are superior and inferior, cultures are not equal, cultural relativism is the same fallacy as moral relativism. Or are you saying that the culture (and people accepting it) that cherishes basic human rigths is not objecitvelly superior to culture (and people who accept it) that stones adulterers? Are you a nihilist?

The general ignorance (not specifically you, Maslo, the great philosoph and cultura critic) makes me sick and makes me laugh at the same time. My only advice to white trash culturalists is this: If you want to see your future in less than 100 years: a) read Hegels master&slave dialectic b) watch the movie "idiocracy".

Originally posted by TitaniumL

Can any one of you name just one country where multiculturalism has been successful?

Yes i can.
Before Ottoman Empire. Now, Iran, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey etc..
But you will not understand it, and even after little bit research and understand what i mean, you will not accept it.

While mostly Australians reading this thread, i understand your lack of knowledge what happened in Europe and Middle East regarding migration. You may begin with typing google "jewish immigration to ottoman empire-1492". Have fun with research

Originally posted by deccal
My only advice to white trash culturalists is this:

Love the above quote. White trash Coming from you sounds like a compliment.

Wanna tissue? It's the same cry you hear everywhere. This people are so good of lamenting. Poor them, the whole world sees them wrongfully for what they're not. For pit sakes enough, just try to move up the time line. Instead of turning your butt up the sky, open books and educate yourself. Learn what it means to live in a civilized society and what it means to respect and not to impose. The time of the caves and hordes is over, so is the medieval epoch. It's 21 century !!!

reply to post by Telos


Ok i will do.

Hey, how did you guess that i live in a cave? Is it because that i told before i live in a non-white country?
Ok i will do what you say. I will go out of my cave, because i know, if i dont go out, you will bomb it with your fighter jets.
forgot to add: what if the cave you are bombarding, is a platonic cave, i.e., what if this cave is an allegorical cave?

reply to post by deccal


Calling people white trash is not only derogatory but racist.
I hope the Mods delete your post.

reply to post by Flighty


sorry about that. it is possible that i misuse it. i mean trash in the worthless and i dont point to the people but to the way of thinking that claim western culture is superior, as maslo pointed out many times in this thread.

reply to post by deccal


I don't think so. In context with everything else that you have said in this thread I think you mean what it says.
And you keep using because a Mod hasn't stepped in yet.
But an apology is fine. Thank you.

Originally posted by deccal
reply to post by Telos

 

Ok i will do.

Hey, how did you guess that i live in a cave? Is it because that i told before i live in a non-white country?
Ok i will do what you say. I will go out of my cave, because i know, if i dont go out, you will bomb it with your fighter jets.
forgot to add: what if the cave you are bombarding, is a platonic cave, i.e., what if this cave is an allegorical cave?

edit on 19-3-2011 by deccal because: (no reason given)

Was metaphorically speaking genius. You certainly came out of the cave and that's why you have the honor to read my reply. Fighter jets? That just cracked me up. Now tell me how can I not underline the crying...I'm canadian and as far as I know my people are there to help them who are afraid to come out of the cave not to get hurt. Unfortunately it works all the way around, my compatriots are coming back in a box but that's the price to pay when you try to feed a mouth that bites. I have to blame my government and the dirty politics behind it. Years back an elder taught me a really wise expression. He goes: Don't give water to someone who's not thirsty.

reply to post by Flighty


You are welcome to call any Mod or Mib, or make UN resolution to bombard the "caves", i dont care.
What i like is your attitude: when a criticism comes from a non-western persona, you have to appeal to the "authority". Is it because your arguments are so weak? Anyway, discuss the topic, and give strong arguments, from where do you find the right to ask "where the hell are muslims doing in my country, australia?" Give some background information, why or which kind of lifestyle (as maslo would say, superior lifstyle) leads to such a question?

Originally posted by Flighty
reply to post by deccal

 

Calling people white trash is not only derogatory but racist.
I hope the Mods delete your post.

No actually a mod shouldn't step and delete this post. It shows the true colors and that's what we're talking about.

Second line.

Originally posted by Telos
.I'm canadian and as far as I know my people are there to help them who are afraid to come out of the cave not to get hurt. Unfortunately it works all the way around, my compatriots are coming back in a box but that's the price to pay when you try to feed a mouth that bites. I have to blame my government and the dirty politics behind it. Years back an elder taught me a really wise expression. He goes: Don't give water to someone who's not thirsty.

First of all, my cave has wireless.
But this statement above really dissapoints me. I see no point to discuss with someone who think their soldier go to middle east in order to bring them out of the cave. With which patriotical, capitalist medicine are you brainwashed?

reply to post by deccal


No it's because we have all had a decent discussion without having to use derogatory terms like "trash" when it comes to describing someones culture. Specifically "white trash".
And using the alert button is what is normal here rather than slugging it out and derailing a thread.

reply to post by Flighty


Yes you are right what you say.
Anyway, when Australian friends wake up from their sleep and see this thread, they will think their thread is hijacked. It is my fault, because i am really fed up with intellectually very low level arguments against non-white people and i feel that i have to answer them everywhere i met. Anyway, but prepare yourself for the topst tupsy world in a less than 100 years, and to understand what i mean follow the 2 steps i gave you a couple of posts above. Have fun and sorry for hijacking.

reply to post by deccal


I really doubt western world will go the Idiocracy way, contrary to popular opinion people are in average not getting dumber, but actually more educated. Especially since the internet. And while it is true that less educated and more poor people breed more, it is an environmental thing, not genetic, so mankind will not degenerate.

i mean trash in the worthless and i dont point to the people but to the way of thinking that claim western culture is superior, as maslo pointed out many times in this thread.

If not western culture, then which culture is the best one? We have already established that all cultures are not equal (or we would have to say that culture which accepts stoning of adulterers or for example culture which accepts human sacrifices to gods is of the same value as for example modern western culture, which is a logical contradiction), so there must be better and worse cultures. Just like moral systems are not equal. Or are you a nihilist?

Are you saying that the culture that tolerates or even encourages stoning of adulterers or honour killings is not objectivelly inferior to culture that cherishes basic human rights?

reply to post by deccal


Your not hijacking. You have as much right as I do to state your opinion.
Just don't use derogatory terms to do it.
I'm not responding again as it's taking it off course.

Originally posted by deccal


First of all, my cave has wireless.
But this statement above really dissapoints me. I see no point to discuss with someone who think their soldier go to middle east in order to bring them out of the cave. With which patriotical, capitalist medicine are you brainwashed?

Wireless? Look, latins use to say: “Barba non facit philosophum” which means A beard does not constitute a philosopher. Hey dude, be a man and handle the conversation as such. The cave remark was as ironical as was yours. As for the brainwashing I can swear to you is not from Koran...