Who made the decision to promote mass Muslim Immigration into Australia?

reply to post by moleskin


I dont think the arguement is about actual religion - although the OP may have talked about the issue of religious beleif. The issue is much broader than that.

Going back over 2000 years, do you know the what the biggest cause of human conflict and war has been?

Religion.....

Funny when it is supposed to promote peace... ironic

Originally posted by moleskin
OP just to give you a little tip, Australia was never a christian country, and it infuriates me when people like yourself suggest it is.

Australia was originally inhabited (rather than owned) by the Aboriginal people. Yes immigration is a problem, just be glad you don't live in the UK where its a seriously massive problem (especially when considering Asylum).

But for every Aussie that spouts off about this christian country, it couldn't be further from christian. Australia was taken from its indigenous people, as was north and south america and countless other places across the globe. Australia is a country built on immigration, every single non aboriginal person in this country descends from people who never originated here - how is that any different from what is happening now?

In fact it could be argued it was a lot worse considering the quality of incomings during convict days.

The convicts were often children that stole a loaf of bread because they and their families were starving - that the worse kind of quality you are referring to?

reply to post by Garfee


Exactly i was about to edit and add something along those lines in.

These convict's weren't murderer's or rapist's the majority of them anyways. These are people that as you said stole a loaf of bread to survive. Then in later years they were free and chose to stay here and then many of their familes or siblings moved here as well ( of their own accord )

Many of the people in those days werent convicts as well.......

To give you a perfect example - this is a snippet from a family history ( relating to me )

Henry C (1788-1851), G grandson of Noah, had 3 sons who emigrated to Australia and settled in the Bendigo District of Victoria.
Thomas was transported for burglary, aged 17 years, arriving at Port Phillip in the then Colony of New South Wales on 10th Jan 1847 aboard the “Maitland”.
He is in an exclusive group of young men known as the "Pentonvillians" who were exiled from Pentonville Prison as cheap labour for the new colony. Once ashore they were pardoned on the condition of not returning to England until their term of exile was up.
Thomas' older half-brother John emigrated to Australia in 1849, initially to Sydney on the ship "Scotia" where he married and first daughter Isabella was born in 1854. Half brother Henry emigrated to Australia sometime after that.

Genealogy.org

reply to post by kip27


The first whites who came to Australia weren't migrants they were SETTLERS/PIONEERS.
Huge difference to those who have come after.
They built the country up and set up a legal system and a governing body.
You know, the things that the following MIGRANTS like to take advantage of?
They sure don't migrate here to sit around the billabong, forage for food and listen to dreamtime stories.
They are here for the civilization that the Brits established and their descendants added to.

Oh my. A huge group of uniformed racists, that call them self non racists, flaming against other colors/religions/cultures while their own People killed millions of innocent, peaceful peoples. What a cluster of ignorance, congrats! Thats mankind, just garbage.

Originally posted by cushycrux
Oh my. A huge group of uniformed racists, that call them self non racists, flaming against other colors/religions/cultures while their own People killed millions of innocent, peaceful peoples. What a cluster of ignorance, congrats!

Thats mankind, just garbage.

I don't see any racist comments and they all appear to be from first-hand experience or more educated understanding that you showed in your post.

Are you able to contribute a theory which may alleviate the dire issues faced by host countries which are being inundated by immigrants that dislike their way of life and burden their infrastructure?

reply to post by Garfee


So if you are not racists, why are your sentences full of hate and fear? The real ignorant can't feel he is ignorant. The man who knows it, is just playing. One Earth, One Mankind, One Love. Divide and you will see your self at the end on the wrong side. But hey, the dark side has cake!



Get it, the word is full of racism in every imaginable sort. Think about Sport Teams, Fanboys etc...

reply to post by cushycrux


I dont understand why you had to involve Yoda haha....

But seriously if you take the time to read through the comments and post's you would understand it isnt a racial issue at all.

It's a much bigger issue................ Race, Colour, Religion or origin isn't the issue. If anything it is political.

I know, it's the feeling you have. But it isn't your own feeling. It's the right wing and fox news that makes you fearful.

I can mark all 100 racistic statements in this thread, but I think, it's not necessary.

reply to post by Havick007


See...If you were at least honest about your racism, then maybe...MAYBE I'd have an ounce of respect for you...

Aussies are kind heated easy going people who are smart enough to reject opposing values. we like multiculturalism and enjoy the mix of cultures, until migrants start using a mob mentality.

Originally posted by cushycrux
I know, it's the feeling you have. But it isn't your own feeling. It's the right wing and fox news that makes you fearful.

I can mark all 100 racists states in this thread, but I think, it's not necessary.

Are you talking or directing that at me and my reply??

I dont live in the state's - ( thank god ) sorry no offence to our US friends but i prefer Australia!

I dont watch the Fox network at all.

reply to post by Havick007


Sorry, I have writes states, when I meant statements, and it's from different people here.

reply to post by bowtomonkey


Shouldn't you be more upset about Australian born criminals?...That would seem more plausible, since they're the

ones who really should know better...

reply to post by dude69


How is anyhting i have said racist?

Seriously please elaborate!

I dont treat people any less or more because of how they look or what colour their skin is.

It's about the way it affecting Australia - ( immigration )

Tell it to southern US states that have a massive influx of Mexicans = Gang's and viloence and segregation???

As i said earlier it's not the person's fault, it all comes down to how they were raised and the country's systems.

Why doesnt the UN look at these supposed poor and devoloping nations and help them rather than focus on immigration to other countries that already have their own population and crime problems.

I offer idea's and possible solutions not anti-semetic rhetoric!!

Originally posted by dude69
reply to post by Havick007

 

See...If you were at least honest about your racism, then maybe...MAYBE I'd have an ounce of respect for you...

Oh, please. It is funny how you are trying to make it a race issue, otherwise your arguments have no merit. Since when is muslim a race? The word used is multiculturalism, not multiracism. I am sure noone here has any issues with well-behaving and peaceful people of other races or religions. But the culture of immigrants is often inferior to that of Australians, and thats where the problem is. Their own countries are a mess for a reason, and with unregulated immigration, the same mess will be brought into Australia and other places with them.
Criticizing immigrants because of their inferior culture and local overpopulation they cause is not racism.

If those people immigrating here were pure caucasians, but they would have the same culture, opinions and economic value as current immigrants, I would still be against it exactly like I am now.

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Whole continent of Australia is a joke. You have no real culture. No real poet, no real writer, no real art. Only thing you have is Mel Gibson and Rugby. Maybe Muslims will teach you some world culture and manner.

reply to post by Havick007


Ouh please...utter nonsense...90% of your country's population is of European descent. 8% is of Asian.

That makes 2% of North African/Middle Eastern descent. Yeah better go hide in your basement.

Give it up...

Racism. End of discussion.

reply to post by deccal


And another racists LOL. ATS is too funny, really.