To the fleet above my head

Well i`m not trying to convince you, i hope i can give you a piece of a puzzle that you have been missing , that leads you closer to the truth.
For me personally i am not going to focus on the negative anymore as it leads me astray of the things i have to work on in this last stage.





To assume that the pieces you have found are more correct than anothers is to say here I found some more and take this so you can catch up to me.... your first sentence completely states an intention before the first comma and even before you finish that same sentence you contradict yourself and begin to convince once again.

By posting this thread I offer information to be taken how each individual is ready to take it. I never state it is a fact because I am not the big boss man and dont decide the end game so I could be completely wrong at any change in plans.

Ego is very dangerous and tricky. I am affraid to say this to you but yours SEEMS (not is) to be speaking for you forcing the information to be lost in translation.

If you wish to teach something then that is the call for you to author a thread. A thread is a place that is meant as a question and answer environment accompanied by humble hearts. If I wished to accomplish anything in this thread it would be haulted by posts such as yours. You are presenting the benifit of the doubt without having to prove a thing. If there is a chance that you are wrong please give the chance for others to see that I might be right after all, by keeping your posts in here 100% positive support. If you wish people to believe what you are teaching, first you must look inward. (.........................................."I have" you say)....lol, one lifetime is not enough to complete self exploration and so much more can be found within....

There was more to this thread than simply the words that were written and I apologize if it contradicted your belief system. That was not my intention and if you wish to defend your point of view it would be wise to post another thread begginning a discussion on exactly what you believe. This way here you could ask questions to see if you missed something and there we get to do the same.

So to sum up...If there are points that you agree with tell us why and if there are points that you dont (ask questions with an open heart thinking that you may have been wrong.) You may have been right but without the open heart to the information others can offer, your cup is already full, and will never get past your ears. Trust me when I say I am no where near finished figuring all this out and continue my search every single day....I could be completely wrong about what this post is saying but then again maybe not. hear me....

I can see your pure intention but brother delivery is not only important for others to hear it but the delivery tells the place of which you are pesently coming from.
If what I am saying in my threads is right then unintentionally you are refusing the truth for others. If you wish to teach, again start a thread. If in deed we are on the same path then your posts here have been counter productive at most, no matter the information.

If we are on the same team then im sorry but act like it.....

Originally posted by curious7

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter

Originally posted by Brianegan
You are in a shared simulation ..

Word Origin & History

simulation

mid-14c., "a false show, false profession," from O.Fr. simulation , from L. simulationem (nom. simulatio ) "an imitating, feigning," noun of action from simulare "imitate," from stem of similis "like" (see similar).
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper

OP are you talking about (VR) virtual reality and (AI) artificial intelligence?

Without wanting to answer for him, what I take from this is that both we and they have our views on what is reality totally wrong through various instilled methodologies put upon us from birth.

Although curious7's response wasnt exactly on the point of it was.

SayonaraJupiter....... I mean exactly what you said.....as in right now you are connected to a machine to learn a lesson that you are to feel is actually happening(VR)..........and is being monitered by a program designed to teach that lesson (explained in another thread of mine "stuck in a dream"). Everything else in the simulation is all working toward the main objective(AI) and will be complete when lesson is learned or simulation gets out of hand needing intervention.

You are safe in a room in the realm of infinity with the rest of your brothers and sisters. No one put us there. It was of our own request so that we might not make the same mistake. We wanted to learn why it was a mistake without forgetting what we learned. Mission almost complete. We are but children growing in mind but still in body. Intervention has been initiated for the days to come an we wait to see the choice made until further instruction. Infinity was created to house a being of extreme knowledge and size ever growing. There have been those that have tried to claim power many times in the past and have been stopped every time but they wont admit why. We are intended to give them their answer. That being that it is a joke to believe their goal is attainable when the existance of what infinity is really housing can still see them. They are two big to fit here and thus sends his soldiers with a memory of who is backing them up and a taste of power to teach justice, again working for the main program. Have no fear we are about to have some fun. Some are meant to stay a sleep until its safe to wake.

So it wasnt from birth but before it that this all actually began. We have been in slumber for more than 4,400,000 years and we are being called for breakfast. Its been long enough. The lesson will be learned and simulation complete. Time is different within ifinity but being aware of both relms he has suffered through every lifetime waiting for our return only interfeering when we most needed it to avoid disruption of the simulation goal.

You are in a shared simulation.

reply to post by Brianegan

This is what I got from your original post:

The guys up there are hesitating. Why?

Their own explanations seem too rational.

In general, what prevents a being from "doing what he needs to do?"

I have been taught, and to some degree understand this myself: Because the last time he did it, things came out bad.

They are - or are the descendants of - the people who wanted us enslaved in the first place.

They are stopped, then, by their own fear that they might actually be doing wrong.

This is one thing they never talk about in their communications with us. They only talk about the bad things that happened to us on earth.

Well: what about all the millions of years before that? Perhaps they don't remember, either.

They tell us that we all "volunteered" to come to earth. They might believe that, too.

But that's not the story I heard. I heard that we were "volunteered." To be plain: Most of us came here not of our own free will. And who did that? Who sent us here? Who set up this colony originally?

Them?

I agree. They should go ahead and just show themselves. But if we get mad at them, this will give them an excuse to wipe us out. If they stall long enough, per their own story, we will end up getting wiped out anyway. That could be convenient for them. But it wouldn't be any progress towards truth.

I could go on. But, based on what I know, this is what I see.

Originally posted by enteri
How are you even sure that we would reach ascension without their direct intervention? What could and propably would happen is that we'd be enslaved by the same factions for another millenia or two while they waited for us. Our ascension would be hindered even further. Plus I don't think that's even a possibility now that Gaia is ascending under us.

In my previous post I typed it a bit wrong saying that you don't have to fear for them. What I meant is that you don't have to be afraid of their downfall and destruction due to their plan. How would heaven decree a plan like that knowing that would be the cause of their destruction? We need this intervention, at least a clean table. Even with the consciousness rising so rapidly these factions are so crafty that we most likely wouldn't be able to remove them from power. We need a clean slate and full disclosure.

Still, I agree it feels wrong not actually achieving it on our own. Needing some catalyst or intervention. Not sure if we'll ever be taken seriously by them, even tho they say we'll be regarded as one of them.

We are in deed subject to a plan but we get to decide how it unfolds using our free will to manuver around. They also have free will to decide their moves. Their final decision will show if they had cruel intention originally or they were simply curious (too curious). Depending on their choice, the outcome will decide wether they are able to grow or will repeat the same course of action. We will have full disclosure eith way and intervention will not be from them. Intervention would mean that they have yet to reach the humans when in reality they have been here for quite some time.

We are here to learn a lesson that we requested after realizing that certain questions are a path toward an inevitable question of "why can't we have the power that you have?"

They are playing their role and I hope they choose wisely because if they dont then they are directly challenging for leadership. They will have to be shown their error and will be directly the reason the rest will learn the main lesson.
It was hoped that they would remain innocent even after the simulation but after further consideration it was found that they might wake up and begin the need for the same lesson to be forgotten again. This can not be allowed.

They will either become martyrs or the image of a true act of penence.... Either way the simulation program will adapt to the main lesson governing our events. You can find what I am speaking of through math and other things but mainly math.

Originally posted by phoneix
The truth of the matter is that we do not need these parasites. They need us.
A copy of a copy makes a poor duplicate.

Brother, they are you wearing a different shell. Have compashion for those that play a difficult role. We of all players know how hard this can get. They are playing just as important of a role as we are, but the ending is so amazing that it will explain everything down to the simpilest of questions.

Pain is part of the program an is an intrical part needed to show us how we got where we are going. There was a time when you knew this and requested this simulation to honor the work that went into the gifts we were given just as everyone else did....Even them.....The hope is that the reason we had to honor him was not caused by a threat but a childs curiosity. The choice they were given will decide that.

Wether we needed them or not has not been decided yet and is not up to us.

Originally posted by SunLightyear
I can only speak for myself, not for the rest of the human race, but:

I forgive you, for you don't know what you are doing.
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I think it's important to note that I wasn't speaking to Brianegan in the above, but to the ones he addresses with his post. At this point, I haven't figured out whom he is addressing in his thread, which is not so important for me to know.
Love, peace

edit on 19-3-2011 by SunLightyear because: mistake corrected

perfect......

Yes the point was just that....To who this message was intended knows who they are and the method used in this letter was to avoid embarassment of a proud group....

They may take this letter and know that no one will 100% know that they had to take it into consideration....

Once they make their decision it wont matter if they reveal themselves because their pride will have transformed into humilty and welcome the knowledge that some were aware of it already as the first sign of penence.....or be forced to have their pride used against them to prove a point to the rest of us including the other inhabitants not particapting in their goal using the humans.

Sooooo do you have any questions for me or did you just wish to spam this thread (hope the mods catch this before you strike again.... I couldnt find one thing on topic inside of your thread within my thread... Please post your own thread when you have nothing to add to the original topic....

Mr rudeness.....

Hello brianegan,

First of all, thank you for your reply I feel it necessary to state that what drew me to this thread was the title. Is "The Fleet Over My Head" pure assumption or is it fact?. I will state for the record that I am not a believer in ET in the UFO sense. The author of this notice however is. Now before you jump to the idea that I do not have an interest in the phenomenon let me clear up a point. My focus here is to start at the beginning- Establish the fact of ET's existence. I have been on Forum after Forum and the dialogue is the same. Loads of speculation, conjecture, conspiracy suspicions, believers who have no facts- have never seen one nor know anyone who has- and a general feeling of folks who feel powerless when trying to get at the truth. There are those who say they KNOW the truth such as yourself. All well and good for belief is a strong force in one's life.

However, 1) I'm here to "teach" nothing. To say that I am is absolutey false. And there are other ideas you came up with that lead the entire message astray. The "pieces you have found" have nothing to do with the message and it is plainly stated as such. There is NO doctrine attached. No belief system whatsoever in fact other than the effort to ask ET to show up. That's it. Nothing more. Everyone's beliefs are moot. Everyone's ideas, conceptions, opinions, speculations, supposed knowledge, speakers, conferences, TV, radio, government, MUFON, NUFORC, USAF, CIA, NSA, FBI, and on and on with any other organization, investigation, expert, book, video, photo, report, sighting, abduction, landing, shape, size, color etc., etc., you name it. ANYTHING that has to do with UFOs, ET, or the money-making business that it has become at the expense of believers and debunkers alike means nothing until ET is proven.

That's what this message is purely about. Unite the world in one focus at one time. And that's all. Read into it what you will. Say what you want. Believe what you want. Argue it until you're blue in the face. Pick it apart. Take it out of context. Do whatever you will do to torpedo the idea. But in the end the Notice is simple and placed on an extremely personal level.to each human being as an individual to be involved even by one's self either alone or in a group. I matters not. It comes down to whether or not you really want to know about ET and that one can circumvent everything and averyone in order to arrive at the truth. And also, It will cost nothing. Truth should be free and this approach to ET won't cost a anyone a dime.

As a nonbeliever I felt the effort proposed in this notice was an extremely sensible undertaking for ET proponents to consider. It's logical, andcould be viewed as scientific. That's why I got involved. I am not a debunker but felt that if humans as individuals got together then this phenomenon could tackled for each and everyone at the same time. No more rumors, hearsay, or "someone said" or "someone saw. The possibility of actually find out the Truth no mater what one "believes" you have to admit is an exciting and above all courageous attempt.

So in summary, I don't understand anything about where you were coming from with your post.

Thank you for your time and patience in this matter. I have no more to say. Except to post a reminder on the 20th of each month and the day before the event.

Regards to All, hiflier.

Originally posted by l_e_cox
reply to post by Brianegan

 

They tell us that we all "volunteered" to come to earth. They might believe that, too.

But that's not the story I heard. I heard that we were "volunteered." To be plain: Most of us came here not of our own free will. And who did that? Who sent us here? Who set up this colony originally?

Them?

valid question....

Within this simulation they have volunteered us but before the simulation we were on the same team and didnt look so different. It was then that we voluteered together to enter the simulation. It was not up to us who played what part. That decision made by us would have created noticable glitches within the construct.

reply to post by hiflier


Well at least you mentioned that I actually posted a thread this time....

I meant to point out that your post should have been its own thread.... I believe they call it hijacking here at ATS...

I dont think demanding an exact date is going to sit well with them but as you said to each their own and you have the power to place your own in your own thread....

Since you said you have nothing else to say I'll assume not to see a reply to this (or will I) lol.... Your goal seems to be alligned with my own yet there is a right way and a wrong way. You came at me to defend what you were saying, in a thread that never mentioned you so I only argued with you in your imagination. You argued with yourself in reality. I assure you that I wasnt calling you to this thread to change your perspective. I think I was pretty clear with who I meant it for....

All in all if reminder if what you wish to present, then the same thing came be accomplished in its own thread. You can qoute me in your thread if something I said backs up your reason for posting it but I posted this for a different reason...

From my experience at ats, it has been about presenting theories to discuss further. Whether the title could be used for another reason is like saying the word "everything" can only have one meaning. Im sorry if the title didnt present what you thought it should have.

Hello briansgan,

That's OK,
I undersand fully and thank you. I will add to your topic though. My question: Is your letter to ET skirting the issue of God, creation, second comming, and a divine purpose for all creatures in the Universe? BTW this is an honest question and the subject of it sincere.

P.S I think your "spam" remark was uncalled for. If the mods thought it was spam it would've been quarantined untill further investigation. I know I already went through it on another Forum nearly a month ago. I passed.And I never looked at clarification as defensiveness, But if you say so.......

Originally posted by hiflier
Hello briansgan,

OK, I will add to tour topic. My question: Is your letter to ET skirting the issue of God, creation, second comming, and a divine purpose for all creatures in the Universe? BTW this is an honest question and the subject of it sincere.

P.S I think your "spam" remark was uncalled for. If the mods thought it was spam it would've been quarantined untill further investigation. I know I already went through it on another Forum nearly a month ago. I passed.

My reason for posting this thread is to present a possibilty that is not 100% false so must be included when making the final choice, in order to make the smartest decision. If it is denied completely it will force a miscalculation and the chosen path will slighlty altered from the intnded road wished to travel. I made no complete claims just offered thoughts that have entered my head and wrote them down and made a report of it, just in case.

The word spam was used because your post was not on topic and the mods did nothing about it because I only brought it to your attention and not theirs. I never intended on ratting you out just to tell you how you are coming off to others when you do that.

The truth is found by collecting many individuals findings. One human can not hold the truth within their brain so it is spread out through many. If you wish to spread your part of the truth stop telling people that they are wrong and focus on how you are right in the correct platform. That way you may take the right precaussions to nurture the feelings of your fellow man because that is just as important as the truth. If I entered you thread that was meant to help your kind and completely began to state how I disagree I completely negates the original intention of your post and haults your warning before its even read. I wont do that to you and it would be nice to give my truth a chance to be heard as well.

reply to post by hiflier


I noticed the edit in your tone of voice and aplaud you for it... Ill star you for that....

What I wrote was intended to have many interpretations to allow ones own truth to be realized. It doesnt matter how you learn the lesson for there are many ways included, only that we do learn it, together. I can see how you would derive to that opinion and I will say yes within reason to your mentioned points.

reply to post by Brianegan


I would give more info but, not here of why I feel this. The telepathic activation they do is a two way street. I will just say I took what I needed to know directly from them at an inopportune time. ( I will not reveal ever)
. At which time my family was no longer bothered. I don't believe they will ever turn from their way of attempting goals. I have known for some time that I chose to be exactly where I am. At one point I was shown an escape path during this lifetime to be another (during a difficult time ) and the steps were quite simple but, I refused and decided to finish this out in the same shoes. I saw past and future for me rolled into one entity and eyes opened. I have no real animosity towards them but, their future will be irrelevant to mankind.



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Well said. Im happy that you came to that conclusion after finding out what you did. I agree

Hi Brianegan,

I have studied your 3 threads with interest and it is quite novel how these 3 (trinity?) of threads are all part of 1 larger thread as implied by you. It too is intrueging (sp?) when you refer the use of code words and purposeful mistakes and use of the written language. All cloak and dagger stuff to me to be honest. By nature red flags will go up for me when people refer to things like this. Why not simply say what you mean and mean what you say? Why the need to "hide" (or make it very difficult) the true meaning of what you are trying to say or convey? Very strange to me indeed...

Another thing which bothers me is the way you intertwine truth, half truths and lies (from my perspective and frame of reference). Look, I am sure that in your frame of reference everything you are saying is making a whole lot of sense and to you this is the whole truth, but when you share your ideas in a forum such as this there is the danger that you will, in the very least, confuse the good and trusting people in this forum. Unless of course this was the whole point with your trinity of threads and if this is the case you are doing a smashing job and your experiment can be deemed a roaring success.

When looking at your 3 posts in total I get the distinct impression that all these threads are more directed at us and less directed at the critters in the fleet above your head. As if you are testing the water as it were and seeing what reactions you will get. The danger in all of this is the fact that there are now already people who are looking to you to "enlighten" them and they have already placed all their trust in you. This can be very, very dangerous...

reply to post by Falcifer


I assure everything was written with good intentions. If red flags come up good for you for noticing that they exist. Its what you do with these flags that matters. What I am doing will be interpreted many ways. If it helps anyone then mission complete no matter "who" they are.

There is a reason why I have begun all of this and it is up to you to find out what it is if you are meant to. If enlightenment is what they call for then they shall have it. I dont make that choice but I stand by every single word with love in my heart. I offer what I can and take care of my own no matter how far that reaches.You will find much depth inside and I challenge you to explore.

As enlightenment comes from many outlets, if one can find it within my words I am greatful to have found them to write and will continue until posts like yours are non-existant.

There is still another thread coming, watch for it........I appreciate your attention....

It is all okay.....

Why not simply say what you mean and mean what you say? Why the need to "hide" (or make it very difficult) the true meaning of what you are trying to say or convey? Very strange to me indeed...

This can be very, very dangerous...


I think you answered your own question here....Wise is the question of ones self to see where I went wrong and present your hearts words carefully to be seen on a universal level. We not only speak in tongues but we also read the same way my friend....

Hello Brianegan,

Originally posted by Brianegan
reply to post by Falcifer

 

I assure everything was written with good intentions. If red flags come up good for you for noticing that they exist. Its what you do with these flags that matters. What I am doing will be interpreted many ways. If it helps anyone then mission complete no matter "who" they are.

Help in what way? Am I missing something here?

There is a reason why I have begun all of this and it is up to you to find out what it is if you are meant to. If enlightenment is what they call for then they shall have it. I dont make that choice but I stand by every single word with love in my heart. I offer what I can and take care of my own no matter how far that reaches.You will find much depth inside and I challenge you to explore.

In other words you don't really want to help anyone....their on the own.

As enlightenment comes from many outlets, if one can find it within my words I am greatful to have found them to write and will continue until posts like yours are non-existant.

Big "if".....

There is still another thread coming, watch for it........I appreciate your attention....

It is all okay.....

Riddles. It amazes me how utterly non commital ............