False Flag Tsunami.

I posted this in another thread already, but the people there seemed to not enjoy a good conspiracy theory when I slaps them in the face.

So I thought I would give it its very own thread, as I find the idea very much a possibility.

Think of this if you will... We caused the Tsunami, but more specifically the raditation disaster, to give the Japanese a reason to evacuate their present location. What the hell am I talking about right?? Im getting there.

You all know that we have quite a bit of beef with China and friends. If a major war ever broke out between China and America, it would truly be the West vs. the East. A for real biblical war.

Now, say this war was to happen.
Lets say that we surgically strike a North Korean reactor that is making worrisome amounts of enriched uranium, with a JDAM guided bomb.

NK then proceeds to shell Seol, completely leveling it within 20 min.
We then respond ,by launching an amphibious assault on NK from either shoreline, with the stated intent to remove the "crazy dictator".
You all know how that works, im sure.

China will NEVER allow America to control a territory that is kitty corner to PROC territory, never. It is why they fought in the Korean war.

If this war that I am talking about ever happened, China would immediately launch an attack on Japan to remove the US NAVY from its eastern flank.
Very logical considering the combat power of even one carrier fleet.
Now, Japan is tough and all, but they simply cannot resist the Mandarin flood that would hit them in this event.

So, we cause a disaster that makes it necessary for the Japanese to evacuate their country. Why?

If the Japanese started leaving en masse to avoid the coming invasion BEFORE the first shot is fired, the Chinese will immediately know what the game is, and attack with great effect.

We need the Japanese on our side if this Illiad were to ever occur.
So, we commited a terrible crime, to save our allies from an even more terrible situation.
I am sure many of you know the kind of hatred that the Chinese harbor towards the Japanese. We can't let Mao's boys get ahold of them.

think about it

That still doesn't explain how the earthquake was caused by the chinese.

reply to post by chancemusky


No no no, WE caused the earthquake, and the tsunami and the rad-disaster, in order to cover the evacuation of the Japanese populace.

Im not saying its for sure its the fact of the matter, but it would be the logical response to any kind of development that would lead to war.

Remember, only the intelligence agencies would ever know that something might go down between China and USA.

It is quite easy to make HUGE earthquakes with the bombs we have today. I posted another thread on the subject.
The rad-disaster would also be a handy cover for the nuke required to release the crustal pressure buildup.

I don't know. Just saying thats what I would do if faced with the alternative of having an extremely valuable ally ( Japan) annhilated to a man.

Don't forget that the Japanese tortured thousands of Chinese in their experimentation facilities. Millions of Chinese are alive that remember the depravity of the Japanese occupiers.

reply to post by SunTzu22


But how would we cause it?

Originally posted by chancemusky
reply to post by SunTzu22

 

But how would we cause it?

HAARP

reply to post by chancemusky


Oh, several ways exist to cause giant seismic events.

You can just blow a large nuke up on the sea floor, the cavitation that would result is enough to create a massive quake and tsunami.

You can drill into a sea mount, and then place precision explosives that would cause a huge chunk of the mountain to slide off, causing a super disaster.

You can place a series of smaller warheads in a deep sea subduction zone, and then light them off. This would imitate aftershocks if there wasn't enough energy released to cause the tri-plate in Japan to activate itself.

You can also use Scalar frequencies to cause plates to vibrate, thus allowing for sliding ( earthquake). This is what most people on this site refer to as a "Tesla Weapon".
I think that this is the least likely, as it would be possible to detect such directed energy over such a large distance, quite easily.

The total global nuclear arsenal is about 30,000 nuclear warheads with a destructive capacity of 5,000 megatons (5,000 million tons of TNT) Earthquakes on the other hand are a HUGE amount bigger The 2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake released the equivalent of 9,560 gigatons of TNT

So, I'm not so sure you can make an earthquake with a nuke!

reply to post by SunTzu22


I doubt it was nukes or explosives, sorry.

reply to post by chancemusky


I believe it was natural as well. But what kind of conspiracy theorist would I be if i didn't allow for such abstract possiblities?

Shame on you.

Second.

reply to post by davespanners


You don't need to be responsible for all of the energy released. A large bomb would be able to set off an earthquake in waiting and quite easily.

America had a project called "operation seal" whos aim was to create a tsunami that would devastate WW2 Japan.

And like I said, you could demolish a submerged mountain to create a massive landslide.

reply to post by DantesPeak


Shame on you.

Troll.

reply to post by SunTzu22


One who has gone mad. Believing everything you hear is not any good, and makes you less credible.

Originally posted by SunTzu22
I posted this in another thread already, but the people there seemed to not enjoy a good conspiracy theory when I slaps them in the face.

So I thought I would give it its very own thread, as I find the idea very much a possibility.

Think of this if you will... We caused the Tsunami, but more specifically the raditation disaster, to give the Japanese a reason to evacuate their present location. What the hell am I talking about right?? Im getting there.

You all know that we have quite a bit of beef with China and friends. If a major war ever broke out between China and America, it would truly be the West vs. the East. A for real biblical war.

Now, say this war was to happen.
Lets say that we surgically strike a North Korean reactor that is making worrisome amounts of enriched uranium, with a JDAM guided bomb.

NK then proceeds to shell Seol, completely leveling it within 20 min.
We then respond ,by launching an amphibious assault on NK from either shoreline, with the stated intent to remove the "crazy dictator".
You all know how that works, im sure.

China will NEVER allow America to control a territory that is kitty corner to PROC territory, never. It is why they fought in the Korean war.

If this war that I am talking about ever happened, China would immediately launch an attack on Japan to remove the US NAVY from its eastern flank.
Very logical considering the combat power of even one carrier fleet.
Now, Japan is tough and all, but they simply cannot resist the Mandarin flood that would hit them in this event.

So, we cause a disaster that makes it necessary for the Japanese to evacuate their country. Why?

If the Japanese started leaving en masse to avoid the coming invasion BEFORE the first shot is fired, the Chinese will immediately know what the game is, and attack with great effect.

We need the Japanese on our side if this Illiad were to ever occur.
So, we commited a terrible crime, to save our allies from an even more terrible situation.
I am sure many of you know the kind of hatred that the Chinese harbor towards the Japanese. We can't let Mao's boys get ahold of them.

think about it

We caused the earthquake, They caused the earthquake. No possible way, was this just a natural acurring event. See that's what makes the earthquake machine the perfect weapon. even if we saw them use it. Making an earth quake happen. They could say well it wasn't loaded. So that was a natural earthquake. How would you prove they were lying? Think about that for awhile mister I mean member..

reply to post by chancemusky


What?

If you are calling me mad then mabey it is you that needs their head examined.

If ur not calling me mad, then we are cool.

Lots of disinfo folks lurkin. Hope ur not part of that disgusting little club.

reply to post by SunTzu22


"Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out" - Richard Feynman.

^ sums up what I meant

reply to post by chancemusky


Haha. Too often do I say that very thing myself. Its great to hear somebody say it to me.

Yea, I aknowledge that the idea is far fetched, but if you were going to execute such a coniving scheme, you would want people to think that the truth IS farfetched. To keep away prying eyes and the like.

Very few people quesiton natural disasters, but we have made ENORMOUS leaps in tech within the last century, and it becomes necessary to factor those advances into any form of reasoning one attempts.

That is so evil, a pre invasion under a humanitarian flag. After 9/11 not much would surprise me. I was thinking more along the lines of something to do with the global economy. Hmmm.

I will not argue with your premis, Of course it may be technically possible, I will not comment on it's likelyhood.

......I Just read an interesting articl so I am removing the first part of this post.....

Also, although the idea is a good one to save our new allies in the East (Don't forget the atrocities carried out against the US troops, and there is little hatred evident in that relationship) I think it will take many more nuclear "accidents" to cause the whole country to be evacuated. And then, what would happen to the valuable US base there which you were so wrried about loosing?

reply to post by Shamatt


The 7th Fleet's only interest in Japanese waters, is to act as a deterrent to Chinese aggression.

Same with S.Korea. We are there to protect as many ally bodies as we can, because the next war will be like no other war ever fought.
The amount of humans that would be mobilized, could be considered in geological terms. Big War.

We need the Japanese specialists on our side, plus their prolot population, to add to our global combat power.

I am not saying that this is what happened.
One reason being, is that I could see much simpler ways to achieve the goals that I discussed earlier.
But lets see what China does. You know they sent spies over there disguised as rescue workers.

This right after their skirmish over those natural gas islands they both claim. They hate each other.