**Considering Evacuation** Japanese Resident Needs Immediate Advice

Hello all. I am asking for everyone's immediate educated advice. I currently live in Hokkaido (northern island), Japan. Probably about 550 miles to the north from Fukushima. I am contemplating evacuation to US west coast (family there) for a few weeks, but am wondering if I am even in any danger this far north from the reactors. Just how far could the radiation spread in a full meltdown? If I quickly leave, I might not have a job to come back to later if I was just overreacting.

What concerns me is that the Russian islands to the north have already detected slightly higher levels of radiation on and off, depending on the winds (even before melt down). I need to know some facts. If it melts down, could I wait it out this far north? Would I actually be safer this far north compared to going to western US (due to the jetstream)?

Thanks.

MG

Hello

The fact the many governments are telling nationals to leave Japan asap I would suggest that this is an excellent idea.

Some Flights have already started to be diverted from Japan and should a major event occour at the reactor Air Travel may well be suspended.

Germany's Lufthansa , is still diverting planes to Osaka and Nagoya.

If I were you I would leave asap before a possible closure of airspace.

Even if nothing severe happens you are better to be safe that to regret not leaving while you had the chance.

Love peace and safe passage

Just a guess but I think there are going to be tons of jobs in Japan for quite a long time.

That would be least of my worries.

Also, one more thing. News is reporting that they are close to completing an emergency power line to the plant. Is it already too late to cool down a partial-meltdown with water if power is restored to pumps? I thought that at least one reactor containment field was destroyed.

Originally posted by MedievalGhost
Also, one more thing. News is reporting that they are close to completing an emergency power line to the plant. Is it already too late to cool down a partial-meltdown if power is restored to pumps?

I honestly think it is far too late to do anything--and the rest of the world (US-France etc) are saying the exact same thing. When governments start to call out other governments publicly for keeping truths from the people then there is a SERIOUS issue. I have never seen other countries throw another country under the bus so quickly--usually they stay out of things and let 1st world countries govern their own populace. But they know the danger.

Given your position on the island I don't think you have a ton to be concerned about. However if you have the means to get out then I would do so. The distance you are from the plant seems pretty safe to me--but if it's not then you'll have a hell of a time getting out of there before it's too late.

something to think about.
if you wait till your told to do so, this means everyone else is told the same.
my biggest fear would be evacuating at the same time as everyone else on the island.

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hello..I started a thread that may help with this info...www.abovetopsecret.com

In that thread I linked to a study done in the U.S. that determined that a Spent fuel rod fire (the real problem here)
could render up to 29,000 square miles uninhabitial.

I would also look at the problem of drinking water and food supplies being available in the near future

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for some reason i think it's ok now to convince people they should leave, unless they have a specialty that could help the situation.

here is a thread i've going.

NRC: No Water In Spent Fuel Pool Of Japan Plant,

Honestly, there are a lot of reason to leave now. Even if the radiation is controlled, there will still be power, food and water shortages. Plus the risk of a large aftershock.



Think of it this way, you will be one less person to consume water, food and power - leaving more for others.

The only way I would stay in a situation like that is if I was an aid worker. If this wasn't the case, use the time away to do things like gather supplies to bring back later.

double post

Man if you can- GTFO right now and take your loved ones with you. I think the japanese are being lied to so badly. Move fast, move now and best of luck. Please report back and let us know you are safe.

I think the Russians are using the reactors as a front for their own leaks, but if I were you and it's easy to leave, with no consequences, then go. I don't so much think that there's a reason for panic, but if you go away and spend time away from all the calamity, you can free your mind and breathe a little easier for a while. That way you'll be more use to your own country when you come back.

Sorry for the lack of informative advice. Just my two cents worth.

Go to your boss, explain that you have to think of your family first, so you are leaving for awhile. Tell them you will be back if things return to normal, and ask them to understand. If it's a job worth keeping they'll understand.

I give it 48-36 hours until world governments order their countrymen to leave Japan. They are only "advising" at the moment, because they know that once the order goes out, every tom, dick and harry will be jumping through hoops to get out of there, including lots of locals.

When was the last time a 1st world country publicly condemned another 1st world country for playing down a serious matter?


For your families sake, gtfo.

I guess I don't quite understand the "advice of a few weeks" evacuation.

Doesn't radiation affect our food, our water for years? Does it go away in just a few weeks?

Is this long term or short term?

If I thought it was long term....then it might be the right decision to get away from this stuff?

Come here in Canada. More place, and our government isn't such an ass!

What is stopping you from leaving now?

What are your concerns if you do leave?

Hello MedievalGhost, please read this ATS post carefully from start to finish:

ATS post

okiecowboys post is the most concise & (as far as available information is concerned) accurate summation of the situation at Fukushima. The post is mind-boggling & terrifying, but I sincerely believe that over the coming days the situation will unfold to truly be an environmental catastrophe of unfathomable proportions. When I saw the initial news report of the first explosion at the plant, I knew right there that this was going to be bad. Unfortunately, the situation has deteriorated & multiplied WAY beyond anything that our governments have admitted. In mitigation, the Japanese government is faced with a scenario that is beyond anything that their scientific advisors can possibly deal with. The potential need to evacuate the entire country is not so far-fetched from where I see things.

Bottom line is this: you have two choices.... you either trust in your governments advice & stay, in which case either this will all blow over & life carries on & gets back to normal over the next few months or worst case scenario, at some point you will be handed Iodide tablets & told to trust them some more. Or you leave, lose your job & have a major life upheaval, possibly permanently, but live to fight another day.

As has already been pointed out, if things get worse (which I 100% believe they will, probably within the next 24 to 48 hours) commercial flights in & out will be suspended & a rapid exit will be impossible.

If I were in your position, I would be packing everything of value & getting the first available flight out to safety. I would be trying to convince friends/family to do likewise, since this is a gamble that I would not take.

Love & best wishes for your future. HP

Panic and Fear bring death ..stay calm and sane ..my personal advice is to stay ..no further comments

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Having lived up in the Aomori area for 4 years I can tell you that the air flow is from south (okinawa) up to the northern area (Hokkaido). It then travels to the North western part of the united states. You also get the high and low pressures that bow down near Iwate. So if the reactors go up your going to be recieving some sort of fallout if not already in some degree.

It's all personal choice. You can stay there stocking up on supplies that will last you for 3 months, while taping up your house to keep any air or particulates from entering your home. Or you can take a two week vacation back to your home of record until things calm down. It's up to you.

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Don't worry about the west coast of the US; more than likely all we'll see is a hiccup. But if the worst happens in Japan with those six reactors, and the wind changes, you could be in danger.

I say, since you have family over here in the states, it's an excellent time for a vacation and family reunion.