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Originally posted by IAMIAM
Originally posted by mcsteve
reply to post by Wonders
How do you "KNOW FOR A FACT" that jesus is real? Because YOU believe so? I disagree... If I say i KNOW FOR A FACT that Jesus is fictional... Am i right?... Didn't think so...
edit on 22-3-2011 by mcsteve because: (no reason given)
Does it matter my friend?
I do not know that the author of the instructions used to put together a bicycle is real either, but I know if I follow those instructions, I will have a bicycle that I can ride.
Why worry about the flesh of the matter, when it is the spirit that leads to a more blissful life?
With Love,
Your Brother
Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
There is one glaring truth about the world that is made ever more clear day in and day out in these troubled times. Man cannot invent anything without screwing it up.
Here that all you scientists, inventors, and pride engorged people.
We cannot invent one thing that is better than natural. We can't even do devistation better than nature. Nuclear technology what a joke. Every chemical creates a poison, for every 'supposed' benefit the detrimental side is worse. Yes we have big screens, androids, an all types of trinkets. But we also have gmos poison water and radioactivity. I think it all really took off with the patent process and synthetics. Since a natural substance cannot be patented they create these synthetic chemicals to taste or smell like the real thing.
All these diseases and starvation were ravaged upon us in the name of progress. So you could have your diamond bracelet hundreds may have died. It is evident natural law is manifest here as well. As hypertension, anxiety and depression crush the overmedicated hope of the world. You see natural law or karma cannot be tricked it cannot be paid off or cheated.
We did not create the rules. Yes this means someone else or something else did. That other than is greater than us,its really a quite simple.
Now do I know for certain because Jesus or king James or the Koran or Torah tell me.
No, once again quite simply the only way we can know anything about our Creator is to know ourselves. To turn inward not outward for knowledge and guidence. Does that mean these books are not of value? No but they are not the rule book.
Natural law is the rule book. That's how the game is played.
There is one glaring truth about the world that is made ever more clear day in and day out in these troubled times. Man cannot invent anything without screwing it up.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by ISHAMAGI
Ugh...not this anti-science fecal matter again.
Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
There is one glaring truth about the world that is made ever more clear day in and day out in these troubled times. Man cannot invent anything without screwing it up.
Electric lights, the written word, dehumidifiers, electric fans...
you forget that most of these things (apart from written word) cause radiation and guess what that does......
Here that all you scientists, inventors, and pride engorged people.
Pride-engorged? You do realize that you're using the internet, an invention made possible by 'scientists' and 'inventors', right?
yet again radiation, to further prove my first point and also the internet can be used to monitor selected individuals for many reasons, market research etc...
We cannot invent one thing that is better than natural.
Internet. There's noting natural about it and it's a hell of a lot better than natural communication methods.
ou may be correct on this one, where would we be today without the internet, but then again one of mans known suicide machines (radiation)
We can't even do devistation better than nature.
Well, we could if we wanted to...we just don't feel like creating the largest nuke we can and dropping it into a major fault line because we're not stupid.
We can be very stupid and nature can come and totally wipe out that nuclear reactor we use to create that nuke or even the lab or whatever (im not really sure how a nuke is created and TBH i dont really want to care) by tidal waves, tsunamis, tornados or heavy hail storms.
Nuclear technology what a joke.
You do realize that nuclear power is humanity harnessing the natural process of nuclear fission, right? We even have evidence of naturally occurring nuclear reactors early in Earth's geologic history.
"naturally occurring in nuclear reactors" really since when did nuclear reactors become natural in your mind.
definition of nuclear fission - a nuclear reaction in which a heavy nucleus splits spontaneously or on impact with another particle, with the release of energy.
Oklo is the only known natural nuclear reactor but it died sometime ago leaving your statement invalid, and the only ones standing destroying our atmosphere because of one thing, IT IS MAN MADE
Every chemical creates a poison, for every 'supposed' benefit the detrimental side is worse.
Chemical? You do realize that everything material is a 'chemical', right? Dihydrogen monoxide, water. Wonder what the side effect to that one is...oh, urination.
Yes we understand that everything is a chemical, the op is obviously not talking about water particles (H2O), i find it hard to believe that you were unable to see what he/she meant. obviously it is not these naturally occuring chemicals that is being spoken of it is the man made ones that harm the environment
www.xceedagents.com...
www.health-report.co.uk...
i found these to support my argument
Yes we have big screens, androids, an all types of trinkets.
We also have life saving drugs, better nutrition, longer lives (30 years added to the average life span since WW2), better access to information, better communication, the ability to survive better climates, etc....
all those life saving drugs are created to keep the industry alive, when natural occurring healers for all life exist for example - Marijuana and other natural occur herbs and most drugs that you deem life saving have a cure for the treatment but cause other problems in the body. Plus these medicines only suppress the infection or disease it does not kill.
But we also have gmos poison water and radioactivity.
Radioactivity is naturally occurring. GMOS aren't bad, they feed millions of people each year that would otherwise go hungry. I do, however, agree that poisoning water supplies is a bad idea and we should find alternatives to ruining water.
i half agree with your post and half dont, i believe that we should all learn to gather our own water and learn to gather our food if we are to enhance ourselves as a species.
I think it all really took off with the patent process and synthetics. Since a natural substance cannot be patented they create these synthetic chemicals to taste or smell like the real thing.
Synthetics are regularly better than their natural versions. If you take a look at a great example that I'm sure you've used in your own life: aspirin. It is derived from a natural compound found in a certain tree bark...except they modified it and found a way to synthesize this modified version. What was the modification able to do? Well, it made it more potent and caused less stomach problems. It also allowed people to ingest a proper dosage without having to chew on a bunch of tree bark.
yes however these synthetic replacements will have other side effects where as the natural version will not.
www.nhs.uk...
to support my argument
All these diseases and starvation were ravaged upon us in the name of progress.
...no, diseases and starvation are stopped by progress. You do realize that smallpox isn't a disease anymore, right? People also don't regularly die of dysentery anymore either. We also happen to feed a greater percentage of people using modern farming methods than we would if we used more 'natural' methods.
yes it is good to use modern day farming methods or now i think about it is it? all the crops we eat have either been collected by a tractor or some other gathering vehicle, so more than likely petrol or fuel would have spilled onto some of the collected crop, i think this could mean that people out there are eating foods that have been literally dosed in petrol (unintentionally) further investigation would be good......
So you could have your diamond bracelet hundreds may have died. It is evident natural law is manifest here as well. As hypertension, anxiety and depression crush the overmedicated hope of the world. You see natural law or karma cannot be tricked it cannot be paid off or cheated.
Wow, so you just have a rant against modern society when you clearly display a lack of understanding of it. Also, you are using the internet.
how can we spread awareness without using the internet, there is no natural way because it wasent meant to be natural, it wasent meant to happen.......and yet again radiation.
We did not create the rules. Yes this means someone else or something else did. That other than is greater than us,its really a quite simple.
Or...maybe it all just happened naturally and we're a byproduct of natural forces. This is quite possibly the most overused argument for the existence of a 'creator' and it's the most easily thwarted: where is your evidence that something created things? You don't have any, you're just perpetuating a logical fallacy of false analogy.
Quite honestly, I don't get your point here. You're just lashing out at all sorts of things that you don't understand and are demonstrating clear signs that you've been misinformed by media outlets....frankly, what the hell is your point? That we have to live by natural law? Which one exactly? F=ma isn't exactly a way to live my life. E=mc^2 doesn't tell me anything about how to live my life.