Im not religious at all but....

There is one glaring truth about the world that is made ever more clear day in and day out in these troubled times. Man cannot invent anything without screwing it up.

Here that all you scientists, inventors, and pride engorged people.

We cannot invent one thing that is better than natural. We can't even do devistation better than nature. Nuclear technology what a joke. Every chemical creates a poison, for every 'supposed' benefit the detrimental side is worse. Yes we have big screens, androids, an all types of trinkets. But we also have gmos poison water and radioactivity. I think it all really took off with the patent process and synthetics. Since a natural substance cannot be patented they create these synthetic chemicals to taste or smell like the real thing.

All these diseases and starvation were ravaged upon us in the name of progress. So you could have your diamond bracelet hundreds may have died. It is evident natural law is manifest here as well. As hypertension, anxiety and depression crush the overmedicated hope of the world. You see natural law or karma cannot be tricked it cannot be paid off or cheated.

We did not create the rules. Yes this means someone else or something else did. That other than is greater than us,its really a quite simple.

Now do I know for certain because Jesus or king James or the Koran or Torah tell me.
No, once again quite simply the only way we can know anything about our Creator is to know ourselves. To turn inward not outward for knowledge and guidence. Does that mean these books are not of value? No but they are not the rule book.

Natural law is the rule book. That's how the game is played.

Very well put my friend...
Namaste

Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
There is one glaring truth about the world that is made ever more clear day in and day out in these troubled times. Man cannot invent anything without screwing it up.

Here that all you scientists, inventors, and pride engorged people.

We cannot invent one thing that is better than natural. We can't even do devistation better than nature. Nuclear technology what a joke. Every chemical creates a poison, for every 'supposed' benefit the detrimental side is worse. Yes we have big screens, androids, an all types of trinkets. But we also have gmos poison water and radioactivity. I think it all really took off with the patent process and synthetics. Since a natural substance cannot be patented they create these synthetic chemicals to taste or smell like the real thing.

All these diseases and starvation were ravaged upon us in the name of progress. So you could have your diamond bracelet hundreds may have died. It is evident natural law is manifest here as well. As hypertension, anxiety and depression crush the overmedicated hope of the world. You see natural law or karma cannot be tricked it cannot be paid off or cheated.

We did not create the rules. Yes this means someone else or something else did. That other than is greater than us,its really a quite simple.

Now do I know for certain because Jesus or king James or the Koran or Torah tell me.
No, once again quite simply the only way we can know anything about our Creator is to know ourselves. To turn inward not outward for knowledge and guidence. Does that mean these books are not of value? No but they are not the rule book.

Natural law is the rule book. That's how the game is played.

I disagree... A bed is SOOOO much better than trying to sleep on the ground...

Pillows work better than rocks, too.

reply to post by ISHAMAGI


The patent office is full of millions of inventions.

Very few of them are screw-ups.

It depends on your point of view, your "reality filters", as to how the world looks and if it is either OK, or a mistake.

I am generally skeptical and pessimistic but it does allow me to be pleasantly surprised when beautiful things happen where I was sure there would be crap.

Satan is desperately trying to save his beast. But no salvation will come for the United States. The financial crisis will worsen. All plans conceived will fail. The economy will go down in ruins. The government will take aim on the religious community to try and gain its wealth from the reserves of the churches, but all will fail as the debt ratio climbs and the economy continues to shrink into oblivion. Nothing can change this from happening. It’s Father’s will.

And because Father began the economic fall with Satan’s prized beast it will continue to quake a path of economic failures around the globe. It will be a domino toppling effect. Satan will be forced to consider the restructuring of the monetary system with the European Union leading the way. As the image of the beast rises to help end the worldwide crisis, the United States will sanction its authority.

Revelation 13:15 “He was permitted to give a spirit to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.”

Those that resist the rise of the image of the beast will be executed for resistance to the new authority. There will be a one world currency. There will be a removal of Christianity.

Satan’s goal is to resemble Yahweh in all things, including a realm that is run by laws. The United States is what Satan envisioned for the entire world. He hates to let go and give up that vision. But Yahweh says this country cannot stand for much longer. It is yet another stripping of Satan’s valuables that he loves and wants to continue to hold as a prized possession.

Yahweh is about to bring full rebellion to Satan’s empire. As hard as he works to try and keep peace, he will not be able to halt the people from rebelling against the governments. There is a reason the job failures and the staggering economy, and the lost homes. They are all designed to culminate against each government of every nation affected by this curse from God.

Malachi 1:4 “Though Edom says: “We have been devastated, but we will rebuild the ruins,” the LORD of Hosts says this: “They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called a wicked country and the people the LORD has cursed forever.”

Satan will bring the nations back up from ruin for a short while, but they will not hold together. During that period of destruction, the people will curse God and seek their true benefactor that is opposed to Christ and Yahweh – Satan. The Antichrist will then make his appearance. The people will be awed by Satan’s regained powers and his strength to bring peace to this world of people. But it will not last. Yahweh will see to that.

Matthew 25:41 “Then He will also say to those on the left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!”

Do you want Christ to take control of creation, including this planet? Or do you want to remain under a satanic empire that cannot even feed the masses adequately? Satan offers no real incentive to remain in his family. He cannot offer you good health, even though he tries, or a cure for dreaded diseases, even though he has mankind searching for cures. Make no mistake. Satan wants his empire to flourish and be like Yahweh’s spirit realm and the rest of creation in the expanse, but the way he leads, and the factions within his family, it cannot be achieved.

reply to post by ISHAMAGI


Men usually have the best of intentions with any invention. It is greed that perverts this most often in an effort to exploit blood money or power.

I disagree with your post. Even though a lot of modern advances have downsides, I don't know how you can say that every chemical creates a poison(by definition, all poisons are chemicals but not the opposite). All these diseases and starvation were ravaged upon us in the name of progress. Really, all diseases?

Would you rather be living in the open outdoors, in a mud hut, or in a nice modern house? Would you rather live to 40 or 70?

The indigenous peoples of the world had it right all along.

Live in harmony with your environment or you will have no environment left in which to live.

reply to post by ISHAMAGI


To accuse "man" of mucking up life as we know it and then telling us that we must all look "inward", really, where do you think all this mess is coming from, are other people encouraging us to make our own bad decisions or is it our "inward" self?

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
I disagree with your post. Even though a lot of modern advances have downsides, I don't know how you can say that every chemical creates a poison(by definition, all poisons are chemicals but not the opposite). All these diseases and starvation were ravaged upon us in the name of progress. Really, all diseases?

Would you rather be living in the open outdoors, in a mud hut, or in a nice modern house? Would you rather live to 40 or 70?

If I had to live all over again in the world like it is today I would rather DIE at 40......Yes, I would.....This world has gone to $hit....

I agree with you to an extent my friend. It isn't that technology is bad it is what is driving our technological achievements. We are driven by personal gain rather than the gain of the whole human race.

If it wasn't for money being the major driving force of our developments, we could and would build things to last.

We could build cars that rarely need maintenance and that last for hundreds of thousands of miles without repair. What would that do to the auto market, the parts market, the insurance market, not to mention the slave/jobs market.

We could build roads that rarely need repair. What would that do to the asphalt market, the aggregates market, and the slave/jobs market.

We could build power plants that are impervious to meltdowns. But they would cost too much.

We could build homes for everyone that are clean energy based and last decades, but what would that do to the lumber market, the building supplies market, and the slave/jobs market.

We could build green house hydro-ponic farms that serve their local area. What would that do to the produce market, fertilizer market, farm equipment market, and the slave/jobs market.

We could grow medicines that are naturally occurring in our environment such as coca, marijuana, poppies, and many others. What would that do to the pharmaceutical, and the jobs/slave market.

We could build much much more with much less effort and all would have what they need to survive.

But, we do things for the wrong reasons.

Money or Humanity. Which should be our real driving force?

With Love,

Your Brother

"It is evident natural law is manifest here as well. As hypertension, anxiety and depression crush the overmedicated hope of the world. You see natural law or karma cannot be tricked it cannot be paid off or cheated."


I find it hard to believe I deserved to have suffered from depression from the age of 7, includiing suicidal thoughts. Without the medication, I doubt I would be as I am today, so dont say that we all deserve what we have. Man is part of nature, and nothing will change that.

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Yep see my problem is this whole Yahweh and Christ thing. Its just another way of dividing people calling God by your own special name Yahweh Allah christ etc. Then if you don't believe in that one you are at constant war with others with slightly different belief systems. Then you throw class race and words around for which you have no proof. Its sad really thus creating the system we have now.

Then you expect christ and his armies to save you from the evil we creates and cooperated with. Its comical really.

Yes there will be a reckoning or rapture if you prefer but it will be an act of balance or returning to it loosing natural law Gods law upon an unprepared populous.

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And beds existed for thousands of years. Perhaps I went to far everything is not a screw up but society is only good if it can bring about a prosperous life for all. Many billions on this planet still don't sleep on beds. You an I were lucky enough to be born into the top 10% of people on the planet given resources etc. It has nothing to do with laziness or socialism but politicians and the elite will convince you it is. The hoarding and greed is a sickness forced upon us.

Lemme throw a personal out there for you.

"Watch in disbelief as they force the greed
Cram it down your throat with pork and beef
Who gives a snip if more can eat
ima horde these billions till your deceased"

reply to post by chr0naut


The truth of the matter is my immediate reality is plentiful and happy but that is not the world.

Look at these third world countries. They had no disease, famine, poision water. Our rulers enginered that for their own benefit. Waste water run off subsidized crops and imported disease kill people for their prosperity everyday whilst we plug on with our greedy rise to the top on the backs of other slaves.

reply to post by Wonders


My God man. All we do is follow rules from the time we are forced to at birth.

We are led on a narrow path through the woods to someone else's idea of what right is. Most will not trust their heart most will conform for the sake of peer pressure rather than truly belong.

Looking inward isn't novel just the path of most resistance, at first then it becomes A chance at a truly courageous way of creating.

reply to post by IAMIAM


In total agreement, that should be the point. Many times I have said abolishing money is the only answer as well as common public ownership of all natural resources. Thank you for pointing that out

Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

In total agreement, that should be the point. Many times I have said abolishing money is the only answer as well as common public ownership of all natural resources. Thank you for pointing that out

My friend, I have seen your posts and they are neither cold and uncaring, nor filled with the heat of passion. They are sound and reasonable, and full of love for mankind. I will back your words any day.

You may enjoy the Plan at the bottom of my posts. If you feel so inclined, share it with others.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by ISHAMAGI
reply to post by Amaterasu

 

And beds existed for thousands of years. Perhaps I went to far everything is not a screw up but society is only good if it can bring about a prosperous life for all. Many billions on this planet still don't sleep on beds. You an I were lucky enough to be born into the top 10% of people on the planet given resources etc. It has nothing to do with laziness or socialism but politicians and the elite will convince you it is. The hoarding and greed is a sickness forced upon us.

Lemme throw a personal out there for you.

"Watch in disbelief as they force the greed
Cram it down your throat with pork and beef
Who gives a snip if more can eat
ima horde these billions till your deceased"

[smile] I do have some ideas to make life comfortable for all of Humanity...if you care to take a look. Two threads I posted here: The End of Entropy (the foundation; read first) and The Ethical Planetarian Party Platform (the structure). Both are linked in my sig.

If you read and believe they are good, please pass them on.

The reason that we get it so wrong is that the world view is materialism. Materialism goes against the ultimate truth of the universe.
The world isn't really built out of building blocks called matter, but we are absolutely convinced it is. It is believed that first there are atoms, then molecules that make cells that then make brain and then miraculously consciousness appears. Whatever consciousness is we can't measure it so it isn't recognized by the old paradigm of science, the science of things.
Quantum physics is finding that there are not really any solid things as such. Not even space and time.
It's all very immaterial.
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