No joke. This could be another tunguska Event... Look at this

Originally posted by THEDUDE86
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did you even look at the data I posted???

Yes, I did, and so did other members. You also only posted two links, one a wikipedia link, and the other a seismic study which does not show any correlation between earthquakes in the 1900s, and recent seismic activity.

Originally posted by HD122112
Could the Tunguska event been the result of a massive build up from the methane bogs in that area? I've read about gas releases before earthquakes. A lightning storm may have set off that explosion. Great thread.

At around 7:17 a.m. local time, Tungus natives and Russian settlers in the hills northwest of Lake Baikal observed a column of bluish light, nearly as bright as the Sun, moving across the sky.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Myendica


really....place the dots on a map of the 1904-1908 earthquakes... some are identical to what were seeing today in same amount of time......Then look at what else happened in 1908, Tunguska....I'm simply bringing up a period of time and asking you guys to conclude what you think. Its weird, I'm not saying that one cause the other but given the time and mystery behind these events I am just asking questions.

Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by THEDUDE86

 

Chilling. I live in San Francisco, right next to the bay, fisherman's wharf area, and its been just a bit over a year since all the sea lions at pier 39 left. My gut always tells me to follow the animals, but, like I said, it has been over a year and still nothing. I dunno what's going to happen. All I know is that I have business here San Fran and don't plan on leaving any time soon. If something happens, I'll be here... wish me luck

I thought they came back? I love that area, spent many Sunday afternoons romping around San Fran.

Now I need to go back and finish reading this thread

It may not be what we can see that will get us, but something that we might not see, until it's to late anyway....Just be prepared.....

I was intrigued by a poster who brought up the moon aspect of the Tunguska event and found the following article. While I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed I thought the following findings might be worth looking at by the more knowledgeable ATS’ers :
“The discrepancy in the secular evolution of the
Moon longitude (the big bump) was observed in
the beginning of 20th century (1900.1920). It is a
historically old problem [7]. It has been suggested
that the Sun possibly emits scalar waves in a longrange,
i.e., zero-mass chargeless, scalar fields.
According to R. Dicke [8], the discrepancy in the
secular evolution of the Moon longitude in the
beginning of the 20th century was possibly caused
by the Moon passage through a stream of scalar
waves. Remarkably, that the period of time of the
discrepancy in the Moon longitude includes also
the year of the Tunguska event [9]. Thus one may
assume the Moon passage through a stream of Sun
scalar waves during eclipse 28 June, 1908”

meetingorganizer.copernicus.org...

Conclusion
We assert that the Tunguska event was most probably
a tectonic explosion of the kimberlite paleovolcano
caused by a gravitational phenomena
about a time of the solar eclipse 28 June, 1908, but
not an encounter of the Earth with space-bodies.

Originally posted by itsallmaya
I was intrigued by a poster who brought up the moon aspect of the Tunguska event and found the following article. While I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed I thought the following findings might be worth looking at by the more knowledgeable ATS’ers :
“The discrepancy in the secular evolution of the
Moon longitude (the big bump) was observed in
the beginning of 20th century (1900.1920). It is a
historically old problem [7]. It has been suggested
that the Sun possibly emits scalar waves in a longrange,
i.e., zero-mass chargeless, scalar fields.
According to R. Dicke [8], the discrepancy in the
secular evolution of the Moon longitude in the
beginning of the 20th century was possibly caused
by the Moon passage through a stream of scalar
waves. Remarkably, that the period of time of the
discrepancy in the Moon longitude includes also
the year of the Tunguska event [9]. Thus one may
assume the Moon passage through a stream of Sun
scalar waves during eclipse 28 June, 1908”

meetingorganizer.copernicus.org...

Conclusion
We assert that the Tunguska event was most probably
a tectonic explosion of the kimberlite paleovolcano
caused by a gravitational phenomena
about a time of the solar eclipse 28 June, 1908, but
not an encounter of the Earth with space-bodies.

now were getting somewhere.....Tectonic explosion sounds like a really good theory. Now we need some people to help figure out what the hell this means.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


not only are you wrong but other threads on here have posted what i have said. talking about earthquakes alone without Tunguska. Sorry to see your not keeping up

Originally posted by THEDUDE86

Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by THEDUDE86

 

Just my two cents but I believe that just because some earthquakes conveniently bear similarities, you cannot rationally throw in an anomaly such as the Tunguska event. There is no direct data to say that the Tunguska event had ANYTHING to do with the quakes.

A2D

I completely agree. No evidence whatsoever. That's where I need everyone on here. That's why I asked for flags to get this posted on main page. Now that it is, you don't need to flag it. I have been crazy all day with this as I just figured it out last night, then slept on it. Then I came on here and have been pretty much going all day. Please don't jump on my back for every mistake made as I was getting excited to see that it wasn't all crazy talk and ideas.

Everyone else who is slamming me realize its not about me. The data is there. Come to your own conclusions. I I did put the data up for you to objectively attack my ideas, not my grammar.

edit on 15-3-2011 by THEDUDE86 because: (no reason given)

Slow down brother, I wasn't attacking you or your grammar!

I just think we're kind of jumping to conclusions here. The "evidence" is not there at all in this case. None of these earthquakes have "Tunguska" written on them so to speak.

Tunguska was a spectacular event, I'm sure. However, to expect another similar event because we have similar earthquakes prior-to, is absurd.

I'll see if I can put it in an analogy....Okay, let's say we're using Japan's earthquake as an example. The Japanese are showing an extreme resilience and ability to cope and share and be very civil about it all. There is no looting. There is no rioting. In fact, they are standing IN LINE waiting their turn for supplies. Now let's say this event were to happen to the U.S. Are we to expect that the American people would react the same as the Japanese?

....... I highly doubt they would.....Just because two events may be similar, doesn't mean they're exact matches.

Your premise is a good one, I admit. Unfortunately it is critically flawed.

A2D

It has been suggested that the Tunguska object was a Taurid meteorite. The event did happen during the Taurid season.
In June 2002 an object exploded above the eastern Mediterranean with a force of 26 kilotons. Of course there was no debris or crater, but again this was in the Taurid window.
Not sure how this correlates with the OP's findings but I'm sure it does so better than any speculation about Tunguska having been a crashing spaceship.

Originally posted by Bigfoot73

In June 2002 an object exploded above the eastern Mediterranean with a force of 26 kilotons. Of course there was no debris or crater, but again this was in the Taurid window.

Got a link for that?

Seems like that would have made a few countries have an itchy trigger finger...

reply to post by Signals


en.wikipedia.org...

Well I just now got through this whole thread and it was very informative to say the least.
The only thing I will ad is that ever since the birds started falling out of the sky, then the massive fish kills (One very close to us here). I started getting nervous, and I don't argue the Op's statement and I don't argue the counter statements.

My only point to make here is that I think we all here at ATS (most anyways) know something is wrong and it is not good. Trust your instincts and go with that I say.

Regards, Iwinder

reply to post by RussianScientists


I remember an article from the 80's that mentioned piezo-electric phenomena in quake zones, something about the quartz in the rock getting compressed & generating sparks & or photo-electric effects.
It's a very well known phenomena, apparently.
Good idea of yours, then, to put piezo sensors in the ground, did you patent it?

reply to post by THEDUDE86


good stuff, after looking through those seismograph charts (tedious) it sort of make sense.. still, earthquakes can't be predicted.. even though that document makes me hypothesize that cali is way overdue

Originally posted by thePharaoh
oh i cant believe i missed this thread....LOOK AT THIS
On March 15, 2011 there were 1204 potentially hazardous asteroids
on the 11 of march 2011 an asteriod known as EU20 passed at a very close distance to us at 1.6 LD and was 15 m...there are many other check here
spaceweather.com...
Potentially Hazardous Asteroids (PHAs) are space rocks larger than approximately 100m that can come closer to Earth than 0.05 AU. None of the known PHAs is on a collision course with our planet, although astronomers are finding new ones all the time.
Recent & Upcoming Earth-asteroid encounters: CHECK LINK
sorry i missed you earlier...messed up right...too many things happening at once

edit on 15-3-2011 by thePharaoh because: (no reason given)

Greetings:

Good catch! That site is one of many that are monitored 24/7 by many ATS members and has great information to share. A few more are included herewith, along with a list of asteroids that you might want to check out.

If that one asteroid makes you interested, you may want to look at these you may have missed in this post and make sure to check out the apps.

Check out these great applications - they're free!

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This next app is the that one will keep you up a few nights. It boggles the mind that this is available for FREE!
(And I thought PhotoShop code was complex!) Have fun!

Hint: Simulate March 15, October 28, November 9, 2011 from various viewpoints/targets for a sense of how planets relate to each other. This is truly enlightening.

Start with Show me (the Sun) from (Voyager 2) to get a feel of what you can do. I love it!

NASA - JPL Solar System Simulator

No, it does not have 2005 YU55, Elenin, 136199 Eris, 2003 UB313 or Nibiru in the program, but that shouldn't stop you, as it didn't NASA. They're still posting orbit diagrams for astroids that have already impacted - and, theoretically, not in space - which begs the question: WTF? Oh, that's right, NASA never admitted to these asteroids, or did they, in the first place?

In a larger sense, those graphic-rich programs released to the public do not seem to have enough relevant information on objects such as: 2000 PN9, 2009 BD, 2007 TD, 2009 TM8, 2011 BP40, 2000 YA, C/2004 Q2, 2011 CQ1, 2008 TC3, 2008 TS26, 2004 FU162, 2009 VA, 2010 TD54, 2002 MN, 2011 EY11, 2005 Y47, C2002 X5, Ceres, Pallas, Vesta, Voyager and Pioneer.

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The following sites have been shown to be of significant benefit when used as directed in a conscientiously-applied program of common sense and regular professional care.

C/2010 X1 Elenin Orbit Tracker

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136199 Eris Orbit Tracker

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Space Weather Now - NOAA

Latest 3-day Space Weather Forecast

If you keep track of the various elements of the asteroids highlighted above, you will see an interesting pattern develop, some of which will be revealed in the upcoming COMETGATE-Part 2.

Hope this helps. Good hunting!

Also, if you can't live for at least a month with the water and power going off right now, please consider that the New Madrid is also "overdue" and maybe it is really time to do something about it...

May your 2011 see you embracing its highest potential.

In Peace & Light
tfw



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Dodged a Solar Bullet

Cometgate ! Elenin + 2005 YU55 + Nibiru

Surviving the American Food Crisis of 2011

The Domino Effect of February 2011 - I Had a Dream About America's Future

could it be because our solar system is moving into the galactic plane,I'm sure the forces from other bodies nearby would have an effect on our sun and as a consequence the tectonic plates,and our other planets,also as another poster mentioned the moon was very close to earth at that time,plus the suns CME a few days earlier,coincides with the quakes.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by THEDUDE86

Seriously how may times must I say that something is up here... this really is something that I have found.....Something is causing this and I don’t Necessary think it has to be that huge....Tunguska could seriously be on the way....I haven’t heard any comparison from 2012 to Tunguska and now these events which happened right before Tunguskatuguska

Humm, I have to question a lot of what you say about in this thread. I am thinking you just want a lot of flags and nothing more, because if you were really interested in finding more information about this you would have searched and found a lot of threads in this forum where several of us have been pointing to some unknown large object, or some other event causing all this increased activity in the Solar System and on Earth.


First of all, you are not the first, and will not be the last to link something from the Solar System which could be the cause for the increase activity we have seen in the whole Solar System. Several members, including myself have seen these links for years, and we have been trying to put these links together, but you are acting as if you are the first person to see these links.

For example, the following is a link I started back in 2006 under the name Muaddib.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is a more recent thread from 2010 about this.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There were other people and even members who before me were already making some links about the possibility of something from the Solar System, or from outside, which could be getting closer to the inner Solar System and be the cause for all the changes we have been experiencing, and that's without mentioning Sitchin of course.

A person which warned us back in 1997 about "something approaching us which would be of great import to all of us" was Father Malachi Martin.
www.cyberspaceorbit.com...

Here is an audio of his warning.
www.cyberspaceorbit.com...

Father Malachi Martin was a man who we know for certain "was in the know" about things most of us would like to know. He was a Vatican insider with three Phds, including in archeology, he knew over a dozen languages, and gathered information for the Vatican not to mention that he was a friend of the pope and other high ranking people within the Vatican.

Second of all, I have to question your claim about your education when you are making so many grammar mistakes. I would think someone with a masters degree would know the difference between "were" and "we're" and "of" and "have", among many other mistakes you made.

Third of all, then you just ask us to take your word for it without asking anymore about it and to just flag the heck out of this thread.

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Finally!! Thank you!

Folks, there is no correlation between Tunguska and the quake in S.F.
Does that mean that there will be no Tunguska event in the next year? No.
Does that mean that S.F. will not have an earthquake in the next year? No.
A quake in S.F. could occur on April 18th 2011, and a tunguska event could occur over 2 years later, but please OP, show me the correlation.
But you know what? You can't.

Instead, you make a wild claim and for 6 pages ask the people to "flag this thread and get it to the top of ATS". Shame on you for taking advantage of people and using the disaster in Japan to "collect" flags.

Originally posted by THEDUDE86

THAT MAKES THIS SH*T WAY MORE INTRESTING PEOPLE....SERIOUSLY, these things can come flyin out of the ort cloud like a bat out of hell at us

Ort Cloud is make believe, and not proven by any stretch of the imagination. It was invented when they needed to show how none of the Comets and Meteors that come by Earth regularly are over 6,000 years and they are always reducing for the most part.

I do agree that the Earth is in turmoil with all you mentioned and so much more you didn't. I just don't look for the reason in the same schools of thought you do... Very good post with the earthquake information!

reply to post by THEDUDE86


You do realize why they call it the ring of fire...right? Volcanism...
Tunguska...had nothing to do with the ring of fire...actually landed on the other side of the world....
...and what do meteorites...volcanos...and ambassadors have to do with each other...????...Um...nothing..Peace.