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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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The bible is TRUTH, however mans teachings of it and interpretations of it are misleading you, for they work for the darkness and NOT the LIGHT.

Introducing the Devil:

Introduced in the third chapter of Genesis:

Eve and the Serpent become the parents of all human being in Genesis 3:14 to 3:16

Genesis; 3:20
Eve becomes the mother of all living, but it does not say that Adam also became the father of all living.

This is why Jesus calls humans the children of the devil, in John 8:44 of the New Testament.

Billions of bibles confirm that the deceptive serpent who impregnates Eve is the Lord of the Old Testament, ie Jehovah.

2nd Samuel; 24:1 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel and provoked David to number Israel.

However…. In the exact same storyline 1st Chronicles; 21:1 it now states that Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel-but it was Jehovah in 2nd Samuel; 24:1

Matthew; 4:8
The Devil offers Jesus all the kingdoms of the world,

However, 2nd Chronicles; 36:23
Thus saith Cyrus, King of Persia; all the kingdoms of the earth, hath the Lord God Jehovah of heaven given me.

The Jehovah Witnesses, the Christians and other religions have been hiding the truth about the bible… the Devil pretends to be the real God in the Old Testament, Lord Jehovah commanded the murders of hundreds of thousands of humans for worshipping the Real God from beyond this world.

Deuteronomy; 17:2
The Lord God Jehovah commands Moses and the Hebrews to kill anyone who worships the sun, the moon, or the stars of the universe.

Isaiah; 13:10
Lord God Jehovah promises this prophet one day in the future-the sun, the moon and the stars of the universe will not shed light in this world again.

Ezekiel; 32:7
Lord God Jehovah again promises this prophet that one day in the future the light of the sun, the moon and the stars will not be seen in this world ever again.

Revelation; 21:23
And the city of New Jerusalem had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the Glory of the Lord did lighten it.

What is the Lord’s Glory?

Exodus; 24:17
And the sight of the Glory of the Lord was like a devouring Fire.

Leviticus; 9:23
The Glory of the Lord was a blazing Fire that consumes the fat of animals and the Hebrews fell and screamed in terror!

The Glory of the Lord sounds kind of like a barbeque for the chosen ones in the Revelation hey?

Deuteronomy; 13:13
For any village worshipping another God; the Hebrews are commanded to put the entire town to the Torch as a burnt offering to the Lord.

Exodus; 32:9
Moses tells Lord Jehovah, turn from thy fierce wrath and Repent of this Evil against they people.

Numbers; 21:6
After Jehovah sends Serpents against the Israelites killing them; Moses makes a Bronze Serpent as per the command of Lord Jehovah.

At this point, you have to wonder if Lord God Jehovah is really the smoke and fire breathing Serpent in Disguise impersonating God.

2nd Samuel; 22:7
Lord God Jehovah is described as a Smoke and Fire breathing flying dragon with pavilions of darkness surrounding him.

Uh-oh!!! The Revelation also describes a 7 Headed Dragon that reign’s terror in this world.

Revelation; 12:3
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon having seven heads.

Lord God Jehovah as well is famous for having 7 Redemptive names…
Are you ready to know the 7 headed Dragon Devil in Disguise?

1. Jehovah-jireh, the Lord will provide. Genesis; 22:14
2. Jehovah-rapha, the Lord that healeth. Exodus; 15:26
3. Jehovah-nissi, the Lord our banner. Exodus; 17:15,16
4. Jehovah-shalom, the Lord our peace. Judges; 6:23,24
5. Jehovah-ra-ah, the Lord my shepherd, Psalm; 23:1
6. Jehovah-tsidkenu, the Lord our righteousness, Jeremiah; 23:6
7. Jehovah-shammah, the Lord is present, Ezekiel; 48:35

The churches across the whole of the world are lying to the world about the true identity of Lord God Jehovah; the churches are also manipulating the cold blooded murder of the man today known as Jesus…As a Sacrifice?

Jesus was a rebel who identified the true evil of Lord God Jehovah.
Jesus was killed for revealing the lies.
Jesus was truth.
Jesus came to this world to explain why the world has faced war and injustice since the foundation.
Jesus came to warn all of humanity that the spirit playing God with the human race was the Devil in Disguise.
Jesus was murdered for exposing the truth about the Hebrew God Jehovah.

Luke 23: 1-5
The Jews claim that Jesus is stirring up their nation with his teachings about God.

John; 19:7
Jews claim they have a law, and that Jesus must be killed for breaking their law.

Deuteronomy; 18:20
But a prophet, who speaks in the name of other Gods, must be put to Death.

People being killed were forced to a carry a SMALL CROSS that was to be placed as their own grave marker. The cross was symbolic of crossing over from the physical life to the life after. How did they really kill Jesus according to their own words in the bible?

Acts; 5:30
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts; 10:39
And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree.

Galatians; 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Deuteronomy; 21:22
And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou shall hang him on a tree:

What about the sacrifice in blood to forgive all of human sins concept?
Where did this come from?

Leviticus; 5:6
And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the Lord for his Sin which he hath Sinned, a female from the flock, a Lamb or a kid of the goats, for a Sin Offering;

The Greek writers of the New Testament converted the name Jeshuay to Jesus; which is Joshua in Greek. The word Christ is a Greek word meaning the anointed one. The real identity of Mennez Jeshuay was the spirit of truth.

John; 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him; but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

John; 16:13
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.

What was the message the spirit of truth tried to give humanity to guide them out of darkness into eternal life? The universe is not dark; but is a blue ocean swimming with eternal fountains of life, the spirit of truth received information directly from the father of the universe.

John; 7:16
Jesus answered, my teaching is not of my own, it comes from him who sent me.

John; 8:26
I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.

John; 12:49
For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it I know that his command leads to eternal life.

John; 12:46
I have come into this world as a Light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in Darkness.

Isaiah; 9:2
The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath (the light) shined.

John; 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am (the light of the world): he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the (light of life).

John; 8:23
And Jesus said to them, you are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am NOT of this World.

John; 16:28
I came From the Father and Entered this World; now I am Leaving this World and going Back to the Father.

John; 18:36
Jesus said, my kingdom is NOT of this World.

When one can see the leaf on a tree is green in the light, does the color of the leaf remain green at night? Yes! Does the shadows of darkness make the leaf look black? Yes! However, the leaf is still green!
When one looks up into the heavens by day, the universe surrounding the sun is a deep blue. When the sun is under the horizon, the universe surrounding the moon seems as pitch black. Does the universe lose the deep blue color once the sun falls below the horizon of this world? Or does the shadow of darkness from within this world cause this illusion?
The darkness is within this world…and not from beyond.
This world has faced wars and injustice since the foundation and is not the only place of life in the universe. The fountains of eternal life can be tasted in the oceans of the Universal Spirit; to get there-just follow the light.

Your spirit that created your mind and body will follow your desire after this physical illusion; choose to leave this Dungeon of Deceit.
THE PRISON OF SORROWS

The children who are deeply rooted to this world will feel threatened by truth.

The government, law enforcement, military, schools, media and churches are tools of suppression and manipulation.
BEWARE OF THEM

Psalm 43:1
Vindicate me, O God.

The vindicator will be the spirit of truth.

www.suddenreality.com...

You might want to skip the first large video, until you have watched the first 3 small ones about 15 min each, then you will have a better understanding of what the man is speaking about in the large top video.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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>The bible is TRUTH

Stopped reading there.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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I found your post incredibly interesting and have thought similarly but never looked into it. Thank you.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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your mistaken....but so are so many other people

There is no god or devil....billions of (copies) books prove nothing except there are a lot of gullible god fearing people on this rock we call home.
Dont spend your life worrying about what happens when you die...its a waste of your life. The devil was created by man to excuse the disgusting things humanity does.

If you can prove there is a god or a devil il be more than happy to listen...but in 2000 years there has been proof of neither



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by drmeola
The bible is TRUTH


Dear Drmeola,

Much like the other poster, I stopped reading there, but would like to give you the opportunity to "prove" your statement. Historical recounting of the putting together of the Bible has proven time after time that the Books according to X,Y,Z were chosen by a group of bishops, and the contents of the Bible can only be called "man made". Sadly I am not one of those followers of the Bible, so obviously my views are not going to follow yours, but just a simple amount of research pretty much proves that the contents of the Bible are pure fabrication.

Care to comment?

Edit - This is the link to the council i'm talking about: en.wikipedia.org...

Regards,
T
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posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Wow. I could do just as much "copy & paste" from the Lord of the Rings' script, and even more. My post would be just as close to reality as yours is, but definitely more fun to read. Minimal use of logic clearly demonstrates to anyone the utter nonsense featured in your post. Why won't people like you finally understand the fact that people like me do not want, need or accept the gratuitous fear and guilt those "teachings" are desperately trying to stamp on our minds. We are already fed-up with kings, lords, masters, gods, especially devils and monsters thriving all over the place and abusing us in our day to day lives. And they are real tridimensional beings, living in this realm, permanently enforcing their will and powers upon us. Are you lonely, afraid, incapable of sorting out your sad excuse for a life ? See a shrink, make some friends, watch the "Cosmos" series by Carl Sagan, get a dog. Stop wasting your limited time on this planet and ATS's even more limited space on this network with boring horror stories. Get a life, and enjoy-it.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Guys come on theres no need to insult the OP... He/she has their beliefs and they're free to have them.

Heres a different view of your "devil" More logical then what you'll find in your bible btw...

Enjoy.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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I'm so glad there is another thread that lists thousands of bible verses. And once again the person is pantomiming an intelligent discourse. Loving the creativity, seriously. But then again, my last thread got zero replies. Lame.



posted on Mar, 15 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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I understand why there are those that would knock this dude for posting what he did, but it is entirely possible that there is a grain of truth hidden somewhere in the bible.

Of course, it could also all be lies and deceit and bullsh*t but at least the OP has thought about the subject, at length it seems. I'm grateful for the chance to read an opinion on the bible that isn't from an insane 'bible-is-literal-truth' nut bar.


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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 05:02 AM
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Dear Garfee,
There may actually be some grain of truth in the Bible, yes. Purely because it is a more of a copy of previous texts, which date back thousands of years prior to the Bible, Jesus, Christianity and any other monotheist beliefs.

Where you will find the real historical truth, or the perceived truth according to those who wrote it at the time (and this is the problem with modern day religion, people forget it is perception, not fact) is by reading the Summerian translated tablets.

If you're going to believe in something, start at the beginning, not a bastardised version of it 7000 years down the line. People need to get their head out of the Bible and start to search the web and read, read, READ.

It is all there, in plain sight you just have to have the desire to go find it and open your eyes a little.

Cheers,
T

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posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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Wow I must be honest didn’t expect so many responses, very glad I did, and yes torqpoc if you or anyone else had watched the videos provided, they would find Sumerian teachings and the original 12 clay tablets of Gilgamesh the oldest writing to ever be found.

Many of you hit the nail on the head as they say, how ever some have missed the point, the bible is true, except our teaching of such has been false, for we never realized the lord of genesis is the devil, for a better understanding watch the first 3 15 min videos at the link in the original post, with this information the bible and all other writings on so called scripture take on a whole new meaning and understanding.

This is also great for the Atheist of today, as well as any who have a so called understanding of biblical principals.

www.ancienttexts.org...

Here is a link for the tablet text in there entirety, enjoy.



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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Dear Drmeola,

I am not sure what you mean by some have missed the point. The point you started off with was that the contents of the Bible are truth, that is simply not true, as you have just confirmed. It is all hand me down information from the Sumerian times, oldest historical information known.

So either I am missing your point, or your point is vague, or possibly we are agreeing but not, I simply do not know. I am always put on edge when people quote the Bible and believe it. Quote Sumerian text if you wish, that i'd believe since nothing predates it.

Care to comment or elaborate please?

Cheers,
T



posted on Mar, 16 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by drmeola
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Wow I must be honest didn’t expect so many responses, very glad I did, and yes torqpoc if you or anyone else had watched the videos provided, they would find Sumerian teachings and the original 12 clay tablets of Gilgamesh the oldest writing to ever be found.

Many of you hit the nail on the head as they say, how ever some have missed the point, the bible is true, except our teaching of such has been false, for we never realized the lord of genesis is the devil, for a better understanding watch the first 3 15 min videos at the link in the original post, with this information the bible and all other writings on so called scripture take on a whole new meaning and understanding.

This is also great for the Atheist of today, as well as any who have a so called understanding of biblical principals.

www.ancienttexts.org...

Here is a link for the tablet text in there entirety, enjoy.



Are you saying that other than that, the bible is true? I'm asking because I'd like to know what your opinion on the old leviticus classics and the odd genesis and other rules thrown in for good measure.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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Morning all first let me say I am sorry, for I was not ready to go into that much detail since my hope was that most of the answers to your questions would be found in the movies provided at the link in the OP.

Torqpoc,
Since you specifically mentioned the Sumerian text as something you would find more believable, this I agree with and the for those whom may have not read the 12 tablets it starts with the great flood and follows Gilgamesh on his journey to rebuild the cities destroyed after the flood.

Garfee,
Thank you for posting,
Ok I will try to explain what I am speaking about; again this is much easier to understand if you watch the first couple of videos on the sight, as explained in the videos if you do not understand the first 5 min of the movie you will find it hard pressed to understand the players true rolls throughout the rest.

Because of many years of brainwashing even when showing someone the truth, they still will fight against it, defend it, and blow it off as something maybe new aged. This is understandable after all we are speaking about peoples beliefs and these beliefs have been passed down to them since birth. To start at the beginning is what the videos do best to describe the players involved, for me and in this post I will start with a different approach but will return back to the beginning only because I think it will help to unveil the truth of what has happened over time to the original bible.

Let’s start with my OP, I mentioned Jesus as we refer to him today, why did the church change his name, and all I think can see that Jesus was not his original name, yet they teach us our whole life to call on his name, but they give us a false name, so who are we calling on then? And why do they not want us to know his true name?

In the OP I gave you a Greek translation to come up with the name Mennez Jeshuay, we can go even further back and we can find even other names given to the savior, but in all cases, in all scripture no matter the name given it is always shown as being (the light).

I think most will agree with these statements no matter what so named religion one has been introduced to: that he (the light) is the way, the truth, the life that the gates to heaven are narrow and only through him can we come to the father, many will call on his name but he will respond but I do not know you. These all come from scripture, so again we have several more questions to answer.

All these questions only need to be answered for those whom wish to go into deep research, but most of us are looking for the quick honest fix to a problem, so for that you need to know but a few things, and out of those only one is truly required for eternal life. In the time of passing remember nothing else but (the light) do not be fooled by those that will try and call you back, or guide you else where they are nothing more then traps to keep you here on this planet. Think nothing else but (the light) go into (the light), remember when we die our spirit leaves this body, many people have come back saying they saw the light, many remember floating above their bodies, it is at this instance we have a decision to make and the spirit will fulfill our wishes, our first thoughts when passing, if we think of being a bird we shall become, if we think of fill in the blank and that is what becomes, so with that in mind, and to avoid the trap of this planet and move beyond, think of nothing but (the light) to move your spirit into eternity.

There are three plains of existence, one is for the body as we are living in today, the other two our of spirit, with the last one being the hardest to enter for this is the eternal life that (the light) speaks about.

In this third plan of existence, one way I could explain it and please do not laugh for there is more truth in sci-fi then not, for anyone who has ever seen the character Q in the Star Trek series, he comes from the Continuum or eternal spiritual third and highest plain of existence, in this plain you can travel any place any time any where for you are and have become your own creator.
What ever your spirit wishes it is granted.

I like to think of it as kindergarten the planet we live on in these temporary bodies, Q is the final graduation. I know sounds corky, but when we deal with spirit so many things the body can not comprehend, so for today I will leave you with previous thoughts to ponder. And again encourage you to watch the videos located on the sight in the OP.

Thanks again for the interest in this thread and encourage you to look into others I have written as well.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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You need to have the truth before you have the authority to teach anything. Satan, devil, serpent, lucifer, demons, wicked, sinner, thief, murderer, idolater, adulterer, the dead, etc. are symbolic names of the flesh of man. The tribulation of this age is the flesh of man against the word, which is the light power of God. The word is the law and commandments of God and this power is killing all flesh during this age. Most flesh has already died and what's left is going to die in the end destruction that's coming soon.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by heislegend
>The bible is TRUTH

Stopped reading there.


Yeah, me also. Little do they know....I often ask the question, How many lives were taken by Satan? How many rules does Satan have for us? God's very book spells out his crimes against humanity, even if the goody goody Christian crowd manages never to see them, and if you look them up and post them, you are crazy and need help. I have been told these things many time, and for asking simple questions, and saying simple things, that any Christian should be able to prove easily. But they cannot. Like this. I was asked to leave the church when I was 15 because I wanted to know why Jesus told a lie. And he did, here is the facts:

Jesus Lied About Prayer

Jesus is quoted many times in the Bible, he says that a believer can ask for anything through prayer and receive it. He even goes so far as to say that mountains and trees can be thrown into the sea simply by praying for it. This is clearly a lie, and can be proven to be a lie by any believer. Simply pray for me to be converted to Christianity right away. Or better yet ask God to move the mountains behind my house. Jesus could make a lot of converts that way. If I’m converted today, I’ll post a public apology in this forum, and devote my life to kissing God’s ass. If I’m not converted it would only be fair for you to apologize and devote your life to kissing my butt.

Here are the quotes from Jesus that proves that he lied:

(1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22)

(2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8)

(3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

(I have seen groups of people praying for a thing they never achieved, such as the saving of a person from death. My mother went to her grave praying for me to be a Christian, never happened.)

(4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

(There is a rather large Mountain behind my home, I will watch for it to move. After all, I prayed to Jesus for it to move, and he said......)

(5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13)

(6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

(7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7)

(Think about this for a second. Suppose everyone who prays did get their way and everything they wanted. Wouldn't be much of a learning experience, would it? We are here to live, to learn, not to be coddled, or provided for in every little thing)

(8) It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16)

(9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24)
Bible quote source: New American Standard Bible
www.usccb.org...



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by heislegend
>The bible is TRUTH

Stopped reading there.


Yeah, me also. Little do they know....I often ask the question, How many lives were taken by Satan? How many rules does Satan have for us? God's very book spells out his crimes against humanity, even if the goody goody Christian crowd manages never to see them, and if you look them up and post them, you are crazy and need help. I have been told these things many time, and for asking simple questions, and saying simple things, that any Christian should be able to prove easily. But they cannot. Like this. I was asked to leave the church when I was 15 because I wanted to know why Jesus told a lie. And he did, here is the facts:

Jesus Lied About Prayer

Jesus is quoted many times in the Bible, he says that a believer can ask for anything through prayer and receive it. He even goes so far as to say that mountains and trees can be thrown into the sea simply by praying for it. This is clearly a lie, and can be proven to be a lie by any believer. Simply pray for me to be converted to Christianity right away. Or better yet ask God to move the mountains behind my house. Jesus could make a lot of converts that way. If I’m converted today, I’ll post a public apology in this forum, and devote my life to kissing God’s ass. If I’m not converted it would only be fair for you to apologize and devote your life to kissing my butt.

Here are the quotes from Jesus that proves that he lied:

(1) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22)

(2) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8)

(3) Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven. For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst. (Matthew 18:19-20)

(I have seen groups of people praying for a thing they never achieved, such as the saving of a person from death. My mother went to her grave praying for me to be a Christian, never happened.)

(4) Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him. Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours. (Mark 11:24-25)

(There is a rather large Mountain behind my home, I will watch for it to move. After all, I prayed to Jesus for it to move, and he said......)

(5) And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (Luke 11:9-13)

(6) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it. (John 14:13-14)

(7) If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you. (John 15:7)

(Think about this for a second. Suppose everyone who prays did get their way and everything they wanted. Wouldn't be much of a learning experience, would it? We are here to live, to learn, not to be coddled, or provided for in every little thing)

(8) It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you. (John 15:16)

(9) On that day you will not question me about anything. Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you. Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete. (John 16:23-24)
Bible quote source: New American Standard Bible
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It wasn't Jesus who lied. It was the Roman government who produced the new testament after they killed all the saints by the early fourth century. This is when they started the false religion of Christianity and introduced their new testiment that was put together with falsified writings by the saints. The deleted any evidence of the true gospel and he worked with his people and then added their pagan ideas that came from the Babylonians.

This means the new testament isn't even close to the truth and only by having the truth to testify to these lies, no one will ever know. That's why Christians stay deceived even though it's been over 1600 years since those lies were added to the scriptures. There are a few people like you who see some problems in the scripture but you don't have any power to change the minds of Christians. If they do change, it's because God planned for them to change as an added deception in the world. God planned for all this deception that we see today so he can work with his chosen ones without being detected.



posted on Mar, 17 2011 @ 11:14 PM
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I just spoke to god....and she told me she is now bored and has become Muslim



posted on Mar, 18 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Ok a few things this morning, again thank you all for posting, first remember Jesus is NOT his name, the name is (the light), also in order to move mountains your faith must equal that of a mustard seed, look at the story of the disciple who want to meet Jesus on the water, he took but a few steps and sunk, why? Because even being in the presence of the light, he took his eyes off of him and did not have enough faith.

Now with all that aside, the bibles truths, not the hypes are speaking to the spirit and not the flesh, once in spirit you can move that mountain in a flash, in the flesh these things take a majority of spirits of like mind to bring about and it still takes a long time.

To declare yourself anything is false, such as a Christian, Muslim or even Jew, because now you have become a part of religion and no longer live in spirit, or what was known back in the early times as the common law.

The common law of conscience is the one we are all born with, the spirit within that tries to keep us on the right path, we all know it is wrong to steal, to murder, we all want to be treated with respect and friendship, so we do unto others, we do not need a book of deceit or more so a book that because of the false way it was taught and interpreted to tell us these things.

The new testament was in fact written under the control and guidance of the Roman Rulers, this is a fact, however when one knows the truth one can see that not all things were censored if you will, the movies explain this very well.

We have but one purpose on this planet, to learn, then and to return to the light. The light is all you need to remember when the spirit is released from flesh. I once wrote a one paragraph covering the whole bible and will share it with you today.

God created all the heavens and the earth all that is seen and unseen.
God created man with a spirit, ie a soul separating him from others with his uniqueness in having such a soul.
God sends his only son to be with man and teach him the ways of truth and light, with his actions and words.
Son teaches us to be honest above all else, make our yes mean yes and no’s mean no, to treat others as we want to be treated.
Son returns to be with father so another can come to live within ourselves to guide us on this journey and to be with us always.
Spirit arrives to fill this part, residing in man as conscience to guide his path true.
Man lives in honesty, dies and returns to be with (the light)
The end.

Enjoy the day, absorb the true beauty that surrounds us all, forget about the name of the object just love it for what it IS, everything on this planet is put here for us in the flesh, once in spirit these things matter no more.

Enjoy the flight of a bird, the green of the grass, the branches of the trees, warmth of the sun, the glow of the night sky, even the rainfall cleansing and replenishing all a new, begin to look at life differently to enjoy the blessing and forgetting any trespass, sit in the moment and just BE, you are surrounded by love, every minute of every day you have but two choices, with each breath to either love or hate, there is no others, just love and see the light or hate and be filled with darkness. The light is the answer, the light is love, the light is the only way to eternal life.




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