Governments fail to warn of Psychosis producing drug freely available. Got some in your kitchen?

Well the title is a wee bit inflammatory, but the issue is serious.

Caffeine induced psychosis.

Now before anyone shoots me down, with the 'I drink 30 cups of coffee a day, and I'm fine' argument, I am not saying it has an effect on everyone.
Not everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic, but for the individuals with addictive personalities it could be a problem.

And so it is with caffeine, maybe not everyone will suffer from induced psychosis , but there will be people out there who are susceptible to caffeine in small amounts, and it could be bad news for them.

www.caffeineweb.com...


It is just a thought, but is tea coffee coke etc allowed in mental hospitals?
Maybe there are people in there who shouldnt be???

Sure glad I cut soda out of my diet!

I think this thread deserves adequate attention, mainly because almost everyone would prefer soda/coffee over water. The corn syrup alone made me want to quit drinking it.

I know if I drink too much caffeine especially after a certain time of day I develop really bad ass anxiety, so this does not surprise me.
But I love my coffee... I will never have more than 3 cups (max!)

I can easily see the truth behind this.
I need coffee to function in the morning but 2 big cups is my limit, any more and things can get a bit sketchy. I notice it more if I drink espresso too.

As far as caffeine in mental hospitals - it's rare you'll find anything other than decaf, for the exact reason you cite.

Some patients have an adverse effect to caffeine in combination with their medications (or it just heightens nervousness) and when you're in a closed ward, the last thing you want to deal with is an overly excited patient.

Some institutions even use Chicory as a coffee alternative.

I've only been privy to one institution that served chicory, and it's an interesting woody beverage - but I'm partial to my espressos....although after 8 shots in two hours I can get a bit lucid.

Oddly enough, a cup of regular drip coffee actually helps me relax before bed.

I guess it has more to do with individual metabolism than anything...

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I cut caffeine for health reasons a few months ago, let me tell you it is a very strong drug. Never in all my life have I been so miserable (depressed even) when going through caffeine withdraws.

I only hope I can stay on the wagon...

The amount of "ok" drugs on the market that are dangerous is a bit odd, you can by salvia in most smoke or "head" shops which has been show to produce psychotic breaks yet other "herb" that is far less harmful is illegal... (thats as far as ill post with the TC and all)

OP, lose your job at the National Enquirer? Nice headline to lure people in with. I don't see the logic of this style, which is ATS typical. Misleading headlines only rot away what little respect people have for this site. Just because the major TV news shows stoop to this level does not mean you have to. Once again I leave disappointed, pulled in by a headline that promises much and delivers very little.

please define psychosis

and when youve done that how many other things daily are in the realm of psychosis,

not just stimulants such as them you can indulge (eat/drink/etc)

the trick with psychosis while it is a very good describing term of something deviating in behaviour,
humans rearly presive the same shades of life of what is a norm to 100% ,

what someone describes as a definite psychosis can be seen as a neurosis by others or a mild form of sociopatical behaviour by a third party ,

for example

The concept of thought disorder has been criticized as being based on circular or incoherent definitions.[8] For example, thought disorder is inferred from disordered speech, however it is assumed that disordered speech arises because of disordered thought. Similarly the definition of 'Incoherence' (word salad) is that speech is incoherent. Furthermore, although thought disorder is typically associated with psychosis, similar phenomena can appear in different disorders, potentially leading to misdiagnosis—for example, in the case of incomplete yet potentially fruitful thought processes. It has been suggested that individuals with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) display language disturbances like those found in schizophrenia. A 2008 study found that children and adolescents with ASD showed significantly more illogical thinking and loose associations than control subjects. The illogical thinking was related to cognitive functioning and executive control; the loose associations were related to communication symptoms and to parent reports of stress and anxiety [9].

^ Bentall, R. (2003) Madness explained: Psychosis and Human Nature. London: Penguin Books Ltd. ISBN 0-7139-9249-2
^ Solomon M, Ozonoff S, Carter C, Caplan R (2008). "Formal thought disorder and the autism spectrum: relationship with symptoms, executive control, and anxiety". J Autism Dev Disord 38 (8): 1474–84.


so which is it, a form of mental illness or "cognitive functioning and executive control"

im not trying to bash in anyway , but when usage of mind and brain terms i urge to use them with caution

before one know it might be that one self becomes the subject of subjectiv nonsence

an other example

"stigmatization" refers to an invisible sign of disapproval which permits "insiders" to draw a line around the "outsiders" in order to demarcate the limits of inclusion in any group. The demarcation permits insiders to know who is "in" and who is "out" and allows the group to maintain its solidarity by demonstrating what happen to those who deviate from accepted norms of conduct (Falk, 2001). Stigmatization is an issue of disempowerment and social injustice (Scheyett, 2005).

schh.....

just drink the coffey
and if you dont like it
drink tea or what suits
your needs

Originally posted by InnerTruths
I know if I drink too much caffeine especially after a certain time of day I develop really bad ass anxiety, so this does not surprise me.
But I love my coffee... I will never have more than 3 cups (max!)

ass anxiety? is this a medical term? do tell more!

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psychosis is natural within our society this what makes money go around, it keeps people addicted to the concepts of society, it's in the water, food, air, in technology internet gaming cell phones twitter, tv sets.

You really need to look at the bigger picture of how the concept of society works, In order to be natural than you have to give up the grid of society and say no!

Forgot to mention:

I have noticed certain energy drinks with high caffine content, if consumed too quickly, can produce a mild to extreme mania (not always, but in some instances). I really have to monitor my intake of these types of beverages.

But then again, this is coming from the perspective of someone who actually has a documented case of schizoaffective disorder....so it may not be relevant to the majority.

I can't say I'm surprised. I had to cut certain high caffeine soda drinks (such as Red Bull) out of my diet because they were causing the most disturbing and pronounced episodes of anxiety with paranoia

What I find quite strange is that I drink very strong coffee throughout the day and that just gives me the usual caffeine kick and occasional sleepless night. Bizarre.

just drink the coffey
and if you dont like it
drink tea or what suits
your needs

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that sounds like a very sensible drug policy. ( I am dead serious) as a great man once said.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."
— Thomas Jefferson

Awesome post star n flag man ima caffine addict: ( i cannot survive without it. im 36 almost, and been drinking it since 12. folgers seems too be the stongest for me. ic annot function right at all throught he day without that one or 2 cups of coffee when waking up. cannto think straight nor act normal in a sense. until i have my coffee, others aorund me can sense something about me. i never understood what it was, maybe thinknig it sthe nicotine i smoke. i mean if this article is real! imma gunna work on cutting coffee then. i drink over a pot a day and feel i cannot survive nor function without it.
is their any real medical truth to this news in article?

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You maybe responding to the other uppers in red bull IE: taurine, glucuronolactone, caffeine, B vitamins, sucrose, and glucose

anxiety is DEF a problem with me. i seem to have it after driking that cup i shouldnt have drank. my body has a high tolerance level to apin, but it seems to get addicted to things VERY easy. nictoine is one..since started smoking feel i cannot survive nor function without it. caffiene does the same thing to me..need it to feel good. when i dont drink or smoke, i seem more laid back and normal, but those damn cracivngs kick in ya know.

we´ll ...drinking like 3 pots of coffee a day I think I should give this a look xD

I can't drink coffee, it gives me panic attacks, and I can understand for that reason it may be true. Stimulants in general are not a good idea if you have a disorder or mental health problem. Makes you see how backwards our society is...

And for years now! i had been wondering if thier was chemicals put into commercail coffees like you find in lets say marlboros* had always wondered. maybe some BPA or something, if its in recycled plastic containers.
i wonder why after all these years,its making news now?

Rome hears your concerns citizen, therefore I am issuing the following proclamation, as follows:

No citizen may drink anything but water, or eat anything but unleavened gluten free bread!

The Patricians as always may continue to consume what they want.

Penalty for citizens drinking anything but water, or eating anything but gluten free unleavened bread is death by crucifixion along the Appian Way!

Happy now?