Ufo's, New Age. They are not what you think they are!

reply to post by DaphneApollo


Interesting video. Kind of one-sided don't you think?

All of the alledged "messages" from,are, by admission in the video; channeled. You have already read some of my comments on channeling, and you know that I think it BS.

Now, it was kind of 'cute' that they tried to put it into the context of a court room. I really wish the issue would enter a "real" courtroom. I already have enough evidence to prove may position. Course, it would have to a real / un-biased court, one that I doubt could be found on Earth ... too many falsely 'think' they have the real answer / truth.

As for the evidence presented in the video, it wholly lacking in evidence. The "expert witnesses" cited, none of them were actually "examined" on the witnessstand, and I heard nothing about a sworn deposition.

So, why don't you leave all the "utube" crap where it bolongs and do some real research of your own. I know the work of real research is hard. When I wanted to know if there was anything in my DNA that might point to and "off-world" connection; I had to learn the basics of molecular biology and DNA. I learned about the protocols involved in analyzing DNA. It was quite a lot of study ... took months.

There is one spot in the viodo that I want to address, and that is the issues around information transfer betweenET and Humans. Dr. Vallee talks about the nature and structure of this "information" exchange, yet, by the admission of those presenting this, all the communication / information exchange has been via channeling. Thus there is no way to know the nature or structure of this information exchange. What any of us have said to the Human Species, if anything, is wholly unknown. Either because the Human receiving the message is unale to understand what was said, or they have (un)consciously changed the content of the information. The exception to that is "official" communication, which none of you have even heard about. Most of this is classified, and buried

Currently, your only hope of hearing the truth is from one of us "renegades" who don't care about non-interference protocols, nor the wishes of any Terrestrial government. But, then, you tend to listed to those governments and label us either demons or crazies. The last thing you is think for yourselves.

Etharzi od Oma

Our source, our only source really, is the bible. The word of God, with Jesus as the essention of all our research. No jokes, and no shady talk from us. Why are you doubting our visions so much? On the one hand, you think very scientifically, but still you don't. Are you searching?

All of the alledged "messages" from,are, by admission in the video; channeled. You have already read some of my comments on channeling, and you know that I think it BS.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


If you'll notice this thread is titled UFO, New Age. etc. I am talking about two things here and so are they. The ones claiming to have Pleiadian contact are channeling this information and writing books to make money from the supposed 'messages' to humanity aren't they and people are falling for it.

Now, it was kind of 'cute' that they tried to put it into the context of a court room. I really wish the issue would enter a "real" courtroom. I already have enough evidence to prove may position. Course, it would have to a real / un-biased court, one that I doubt could be found on Earth ... too many falsely 'think' they have the real answer / truth.

This is a public forum, this could be considered a courtroom in my opinion, but the Judge is yourself. They are presenting 50+ years of evidence and writers/researchers on the very real subject of UFOs , their occupants, and yes, I do believe in both being real. Far to many sightings, far to many abductions, far to many stories bad/good coming from the abductions for it not to be real. But, discernment is a whole other thing, we have to be the judge of it and take all into account even if it doesn't mesh with your evidence which heretofore is nonexistant. I'll go with the evidence they present. If you'll notice you and yours had been invited but your in contempt because ya didn't show up. Next.

As for the evidence presented in the video, it wholly lacking in evidence. The "expert witnesses" cited, none of them were actually "examined" on the witnessstand, and I heard nothing about a sworn deposition.

The expert witnesses were the ones who were and are researchers in this field and their credentials were listed or else their evidence would be inadmissable. You cannot get a sworn deposition from entities who refuse to show up to a court date and therefore are in contempt.

When I wanted to know if there was anything in my DNA that might point to and "off-world" connection; I had to learn the basics of molecular biology and DNA. I learned about the protocols involved in analyzing DNA. It was quite a lot of study ... took months

What did you learn, you never said if your DNA is off world or not. I know about blood and those types and no other blood type has snuck in yet.

You know Phil Shneider knew about them, some of them, maybe you remember them. They weren't nice to him at all that fight he had at Dulce, New Mexico with em. Or maybe he's not enough evidence either. He's bad mouthing your space comrads. Shame on him.

Most of this is classified, and buried

Yep, and being used against us all the time in the Black Budget Projects, underground bases , Area 51, how our military suddenly knew all this technology, some of the ships are ours you know. And it is buried and will stay that way until they want to use it against us.

Currently, your only hope of hearing the truth is from one of us "renegades" who don't care about non-interference protocols

Well, all knowing space sibling, all I can say is ' The Defendant has the floor ' I give the balance of my time to AnthraAndromda. Peace. It's been real.

link to add: Scientists find extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA Notice it's a Hoax : www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by WeZet
Our source, our only source really, is the bible. The word of God, with Jesus as the essention of all our research. No jokes, and no shady talk from us. Why are you doubting our visions so much? On the one hand, you think very scientifically, but still you don't. Are you searching?

Interesting! Do do know that if you have only one view on an object, you really have no idea what it looks like, and won't until you have seen it from all angles.

To base a line of research wholly upon the Bible, or indeed any other single work, is just about the height of psudo-science. It cannot and will not work ... ever. One must search all possibilities, reduce them in the forge of the mind, and extract that "nugget of gold" contained. If this has not been done, you have failed.

Perhaps you have no jokes, no "shady" talk, but, that which you say seems to smack of ignorance, prejudice, lack of knowledge and understanding. The line you set forth is one that is far to fundamental to be of any real use in your ever more complex world. To simply state that Extraterrestrials are Demons is . . . the same as "bearing false witness", something I beleive your God told you not to do. It is also illegal in most countries on Earth . . .falls under the heading of "Hate Propaganda" (In Germany, for instance, it could get you 5 years in prison). By the way, its legal in the US ... protected by the First Ammendment . . . don't think I would like that to change, but, some of you really need to re-examine your faith, actions, thinking, and your understanding of your faith ... ya missed something!

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by DaphneApollo

Well, all knowing space sibling, all I can say is ' The Defendant has the floor ' I give the balance of my time to AnthraAndromda. Peace. It's been real.

Thank you very much (by the way; I'm trying to keep this as light hearted as I can. Unfortunately these are very real and importand issues to me, and they should be to you as well). Please don't go too far, a discussion in which all parties can come away having learned something is always good.

If you'll notice this thread is titled UFO, New Age. etc. I am talking about two things here and so are they. The ones claiming to have Pleiadian contact are channeling this information and writing books to make money from the supposed 'messages' to humanity aren't they and people are falling for it.

Yes, I did notice that. However, I'm not the one who started "ET=Demon" contraversy, I'm simply the One defending ET.

Yes, I am aware of the charletians claiming to have "channeled" an ET. I have written no books, and make no money from this (I make my money the old fashioned way ... I earn it. Software Engineer, 40 years exp. MSEE / MSCS. Plenty of hard work).

They are presenting 50+ years of evidence and writers/researchers on the very real subject of UFOs , their occupants, and yes, I do believe in both being real. Far to many sightings, far to many abductions, far to many stories bad/good coming from the abductions for it not to be real. But, discernment is a whole other thing, we have to be the judge of it and take all into account even if it doesn't mesh with your evidence which heretofore is nonexistant. I'll go with the evidence they present. If you'll notice you and yours had been invited but your in contempt because ya didn't show up

They offered NO evidence in the video, none at all. Further, all that modern ufology has to offer is more of the same ... mostly hearsay and supposition. Neitheradmissable inany real court. As for this forum being a court, perhaps, but it is no a court of law, nor is it a court that can reach any sort of binding decision ... on anything. All this is is a bunch of people voicing their opinions, at least for the most part. And, it sems, that anyone who does in fact know what they are talking about gets laughed at and driven off as some sort of undesireable. So much for your public court room.

Yes you have to take ALL into account, yet you yours and others admission, you do not take ALL data into account when judging these issues. I've not seen a Human that can actually do that. at some point, when the assertions become too strone / positive, Humans will invariably stop accepting new data, and reject all but their own pet ideas. Unfortunately, the Universe doesn't work that way.

No, actually, there has never been an "official" invite to your little court, nor, to the best of my knowledge, has there been a public one. So, how is it that we are in contempt?

The expert witnesses were the ones who were and are researchers in this field and their credentials were listed or else their evidence would be inadmissable. You cannot get a sworn deposition from entities who refuse to show up to a court date and therefore are in contempt.

Actually, I was thinking a sworn deposition from your so-called "expert witnesses". Just how are they "expert" anyway. Have they visited off-world? Have they studied the people and cultures that are off-world? No! Thus, what these Humans offer is no more and no less than hearsay and conjucture.

You know, its not that we refuse to show up, but, more like won't allow it. My people are very big on the use of proper interstellar protocols, and the observance of the rights of others (regardless of species). For the record: my mother, head of the Andromd delegation, have visited your governments many times, participated in numerous discussions, and panels (U.N. US, all of the G20 nations, etc), when she is given permission to go public she will. The thing you have to worry about in this account is the impatient ones, llike me. "Wildcard" is a nice word, and will work rather well in pulling all of yall out of yourselves, and into a better world.

What did you learn, you never said if your DNA is off world or not.

Terrestrial tests are so far inconclusive, I've only done a couple, mostly due to cost. And, while it israther anomalous, there does seem to be an indication of the real differences between Terrestrials, and at least some non-terrestrials. There will be more data soon on this.

You know Phil Shneider knew about them, some of them, maybe you remember them. They weren't nice to him at all that fight he had at Dulce, New Mexico with em. Or maybe he's not enough evidence either. He's bad mouthing your space comrads. Shame on him.

Unfortunately, there is no quantifiable, or qualifiable data in this case, only a story. Stories, no matter how true, are still only stories. I could tell you the story about how I was standing on the deck of Mother's ship, looking down on Earth from 100,000km, and told a plertha of things. Regardless of the truth, it is still only a story. Personal experience is a great teacher, but it only works for One.

Yep, and being used against us all the time in the Black Budget Projects, underground bases , Area 51, how our military suddenly knew all this technology, some of the ships are ours you know. And it is buried and will stay that way until they want to use it against us.

How the military knew what technology? Much of the technology Humans use is entirely their own. Please don't underestimate Humans, You are very intelligent and innovative.

Yep, I know about your 8 warp ships ... not very fast, but, could still reach your nearest star in less than 6 months. And, I know about your "fleet" of "space planes". Again, very impressive, even if rather slow. Your starships would have trouble reaching and sustaining warp 3 (sorry about the starTrek references, but we kind of need something in common for this), and your planes can barely reach lightspeed. It is actually all quite good, theonly real problem there is the fact that your governments have harmed all life on earth just to build it and keep it secret. This is an area where I feel you should demand truth.

Etharzi od Oma

Thank you very much (by the way; I'm trying to keep this as light hearted as I can. Unfortunately these are very real and importand issues to me, and they should be to you as well). Please don't go too far, a discussion in which all parties can come away having learned something is always good

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


I see you are serious, but , why don't you contact someone and tell them the real truth even if they look at you like you are nuts. I would think 40+ years as a Computer Programer of software would make you at least credible at least from not being unstable mentally. If you've been working this long, then obviously you're older than I am. So, with all due respect to my elders, why don't you contact Joe Jordan here : www.alienresistance.org... He has an email address to contact him. Tell your story, anonimously of course, that you feel that your 'Kind' are being maligned and that your mission is not the same as the Greys mission.

Why, I am asking this as nicely as possible, a person like yourself from out there and more advanced technologically, be coming to this Bumpkin planet where we are not up to your standards to work, live, and not have come forward before now. To work 40 years you must be at least 60. Why waste your time?

If we've not studied off worlders is that our fault for supposed ignorance, we're not advanced technologically as you've said so, what are you doing to bring this about. This is my point, you all are here to help us evolve, but aren't really doing anything.

You've said you could help with dismantaling the Nuclear reactors but that didn't help Chernobyl, nope, no help, And I believe I just heard something about the Mothman even showing up before that event took place, if that's the case and it looked alien, would that not be demonic, if it's causing it.

Humans are demanding truth, but we are usually pushed off as Kooks. I'm not trying to push you off as a kook. Speak what you feel is truth to you, only then, can understanding begin to take place.

Originally posted by WeZet
Our source, our only source really, is the bible. The word of God, with Jesus as the essention of all our research. No jokes, and no shady talk from us. Why are you doubting our visions so much? On the one hand, you think very scientifically, but still you don't. Are you searching?

Our source is the Bible, so true WeZet, but even if you've read other things, and compare the others with the Bible with an open mind they would see wouldn't they that the Bible tells the truth. They demand we see their view but do not want to look at ours at all. And how can we have an ongoing dialogue with people who won't listen and take in all information as they demand of us?

Science looks at all facts and can ususally be proven, things of God will be laughed at. This is so sad and a ploy, but I'll not fall for it. Test the fruits. If it acts like a demon, talks like a demon, it's a demon. Daphne

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


I see your point. I have to say that I (and Daphne too) do research the ET phenomenon on all levels. From abduction stories to so called channelers and ancient reports of UFO's. You name it, I reasearch it. But, and it's a big 'but', I compare it all to what the bible tells me. And when you do that, you'll see that most ET talk is false, and debunking christianity at all fronts (we want to help you because we made you, we are your benefactors, your 'God(s)' are a tale of our arrival at your planet, we created religion to help you advance etc. etc.). When you think my religion is false, it doesn't make sense indeed. But when you open yourself for Jesus, your life will change. your views will change, and all fits together.

Peace!

Originally posted by Chindogu
I am not a religious person, but my grandfather is a retired minister and one of the sharpest men I know, when I was a child I asked him what he thought about ufo's and whether he believed in aliens.
He pulled out his trusty old KJV bible and opened it to Job 1:6.

1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

After reading those passages to me he asked me the question "If Satan comes from the earth than where do the other sons of god come from?"

Just something I thought i would propose to you. Automatically assuming that they are "Demons" is selling God short. The universe is massive and so is God. Maybe the reason they haven't contacted us is because Satan resides here with his demons. They could be afraid of us.

I tend to take a more atheistic look at the world, believing more in what I can see, touch, or quantify, as opposed to taking things on faith alone. I don't begrudge you your beliefs, but if the bible is fact, than it is far more likely that evil, and demons, only exist on earth where Satan has been exiled.

That's my two cents. What do you think?

edit on 13-3-2011 by Chindogu because: spelling

Wow that is the most thought pondering I have seen on the topic, never even considered it! I have also considered that aliens are enlightened people, only because they can rearrange their molecules and go through walls, and windows, and they can read your thoughts and have advanced technology. From what i have read we were supposed to ascended a long time ago, but thanks to our government and the church we have been kept from doing so. I don't consider aliens demons I think they are what we should have become.

Interesting verses in Job, yes. But about "I think they are what we should become": I don't think so. Earth is for humanity, there is no verse that states that we should travel the stars. Remember, Jesus will come to earth again. There is also no clue that God created a more advanced species on another planet, and if he did (we indeed have failed in paradise, so I don't see why he shouldn't do it again), they surely aren't meant to experiment on us. Also, they should be without sin, for sin is something we humans got because of the whole situation in paradise. I think it's more likely that if God created other life, he did it in another universe which is in no way connected to ours. I think of it in this simple way: God is in heaven. There is a door that leads to our universe, space with it's planets (and satan is cast down onto the earth, or will be more literal), then there is another door to a completely other universe, not connected to ours. Like a painter that paints two different portraits.

Closing words: Satan is the master of deception.

Originally posted by WeZet
they surely aren't meant to experiment on us. Also, they should be without sin, for sin is something we humans got because of the whole situation in paradise.

Good point, but remember eating the "apple" gave us the ability to recognize the difference between good and evil. It was the "Tree of Knowledge". Not having done that themselves they wouldn't know that experimenting on us was wrong or not. They would have no concept of "Sin"

I must reiterate that I do not believe what I have written here. I am only using my knowledge of the bible to continue an interesting conversation on the level that the post was created.

reply to post by Chindogu


Hmm, now that you mention it, I see! Good point, but the act it self is evil, and without sin, no evil acts, right?

Originally posted by WeZet
reply to post by Chindogu

 

Hmm, now that you mention it, I see! Good point, but the act it self is evil, and without sin, no evil acts, right?

Touche. But only evil from our perspective. From their perspective...?

I like you. I can tell we will have great fun debating each other.

Not from their perspective, but then again, they are evil beings bringing the greatest deception of all time. You see, there are numorous cases of abductions report, in which the abductee calls out for Jesus, and get's free.

Ephesians 6 (New International Version, ©2011)

2 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

E.T. is nothing more than an evil attempt at keeping the real message out of the public. We're all waiting for our saviours, for first contact. Guess what? It came 2000 years ago. God came to earth, to die for us.

John 3:16-18 (New International Version, ©2011)

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

I've read a lot, a real lot, on abductions, ufology etc. But religion, is always kept aside by the big researchers. Joe Jordan (and Marzulli) know otherwise, and Mr. Jordan has collected hundrerds of abductee testimonies, that have been able to stop the abduction by calling out for Jesus. Off the record, there is a cover up in the UFO community.

As far is I know, I've never been abducted. As far as I know, I've always been a Christian. But since I know about ufo's and abductions, I've always been affraid to be abducted, to encounter evil beings. It's fear, fear and hate are the tools of the enemy. It's love and Jesus which they hate. I think it's true to say that christians are the real targets, the real enemies of our enemy. Don't be fooled, the great deception has allready begun with new age religion etc. etc.

Channelers are dealing with entities, they open a very dangerous doorway which leads to the wrong entities.

Am I telling the truth? Yes, as far as I know, I am. But don't trust me, trust the evidence, and above all, trust in God and Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by WeZet
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

I see your point. I have to say that I (and Daphne too) do research the ET phenomenon on all levels. From abduction stories to so called channelers and ancient reports of UFO's. You name it, I reasearch it. But, and it's a big 'but', I compare it all to what the bible tells me. And when you do that, you'll see that most ET talk is false, and debunking christianity at all fronts (we want to help you because we made you, we are your benefactors, your 'God(s)' are a tale of our arrival at your planet, we created religion to help you advance etc. etc.). When you think my religion is false, it doesn't make sense indeed. But when you open yourself for Jesus, your life will change. your views will change, and all fits together.

Peace!

I'll give you that most of the channeled "ET talk" is pure BS. However, those that I have talked with, those that I know (ETs) don't seem that way.

When I "converse" with these people (sorry, but, I have to think of ETs as people), I have a rather good connection with their subconscious, and all those things you speak above are simply not present. I know of no ET who thinks (s)he is a God, or thinks that of their people. Though, my contact with other species is rather limited. I only know a few Pleiadians, a couple-three Greys, and thats about it for species native to your galaxy.

Heck, I don't really know very many of my people; mother, the commander of the task force, a couple of officers and 2 - 3 pilots, and, most of them not well. Though well enough to trust and easily recognize them.

My point is, that I don't see these things in those I communicate with. But, the messages you speak of have all come through Humans, So, it would seem, to me at least, that it is the Humans distorting the message (thats very easy to do), or they have been talking to some other entity that I don't know.

There are a vast number of species jusst in this "neck of the woods", not all good, not all bad. I think it needs to be remembered, that they are, in reality, no different than Humans . . . just from a different rock.

I'll also give you that there are those ETs that would wear the label of "Demon" quite well, They don't seem to have anything at heart except for the furthering of their own agenda, and they don't care how it gets done. However, again, we need to remember that they are not truly Demons, but rather uncivilized a$$holes. (pardon my french)

I was sitting here, thinking about some of the communications I've had. And I remembered, I have had a short conversation with a Reptilian. He, did seem rather "hatful", and the SOB was about the rudest creature I've ever encountered. I was wanting to ask a question; I told him; "never mind, I'll ask my Mother". But, again, he was not a Demon. Though I'm sure he would "pass" for one in any practical application.

Oh, for what ever it is worth; I've seen plenty of Humans that could pass as a Demon as well.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


When you look at the bible as a book, written by people and imagined by people, yes. But as you know, I see the bible as the word of God. The main message in it comes from Jesus, not a human, still a human, yes, both. A supernatural being, a real ET, but not like the ET's we hear about.

You propably have no interest in it, but rebuking these entities in the name of Jesus would make a difference in both your life, and in your connection with these beings. Their message is sweet, but they are one big deception. My proof? The bible shows as much, but there are the ET abductees that came free through Christ. Fact! See my post above.

Originally posted by WeZet
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

You propably have no interest in it, but rebuking these entities in the name of Jesus would make a difference in both your life, and in your connection with these beings. Their message is sweet, but they are one big deception. My proof? The bible shows as much, but there are the ET abductees that came free through Christ. Fact! See my post above.

I've read several translations of the Bible, as well as the Zohar, and many other religious of the Hebrews and Arabs. As for the Bible being "The Word of God"; while I might not fully agree, I do see some merit in that statement. Please know, I never said I didn't beleive, at least in the fundamental tenents of your religion, however, I have issues with God, they are personal.

As for these other entities, Greys, nordics, Reptiles, etc. (all of your 'demons"), they stopped "visiting" me entirely when my mother and her escort arrived in the mid 90's. From the day she arrived in Earth orbit, all other creatures, so ever, stopped their 'visits', and have left me alone. Some won't even talk to me anymore.

So, the only real problem I have with other ET's is what they either are, or are not, doing with regards to Earth.
The Grey's and Reptoids (same government) seem to be exploiting Earth,
The Pleiadians, and Federations type sit by and watch it happen.

Neither sits well with me.

Etharzi od Oma

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Hey AnthraAndromda,

I would like to ask you a question if I may? Do you as an interstellar traveler to our earth have a message for us? Is there a particular mission, meaning, trying to avert an event that will happen to the earth?

This question is no joke, not meant to be funny or play at fun o.k. I'm serious. I have an angle to this question and it is not meant to catch you in words alright. I'm curious and trying to connect another dot that's all. Thanks.

reply to post by DaphneApollo

I would like to ask you a question if I may? Do you as an interstellar traveler to our earth have a message for us? Is there a particular mission, meaning, trying to avert an event that will happen to the earth?

A message; yeah, sort of. I tried to link it a while back ... the link didn't seem to survive the copy/paste operation (I blame ATS and "the some-what less than" nature of the technology on this website ... Dudes! Your LAMP is broken (sorry ... inside joke)). Anyway, I'll try again.

Message: www.abovetopsecret.com...
if that didn't work let me know; ATS got a bit upset at me for promoting my own site. Even after I asked if it was okay, and never received a single work back.

As for a particular mission; I don't think I have one, at least not official. Reality is I have absolutely no idea "why" I was put here, got lots of wild ideas though. Mother tells me that all will be explained, when she feels that I'm ready to understand. I have no idea what could be so difficult. But, then, I was left alone and in the care of total "alien strangers" and placed there just after birth. This one single event has provided me with 64 years of unexplainable pain. And, of course a lifetime of searching.

Three years ago or so I got to thinking about all the 2012 stuff. I hadn't given any of it much thought, Didn't realize the reality and magnetude of the "time-frame", Anyway, I started to do a little research, and realized that this was actually a date / time-frame of concern. I found that in all the prophecies that were around, a good number seemed to 'point' to the same "time' (2012). What I saw scared the water out of me! There were way too many prophets who were seeing serious events, mostly natural disasters, and all with the same "target". Still, a good skeptic should be able to get around this. Unfortunately, I'm not a skeptic. I'm someone with a very good foundation in both religion and science (lean heavily toward science).

So I computed the probabilities of "some" serious event occuring, I came out to something like 88%, With a probability like that I should be heading for Las Vegas, seems like a sound bet. But no, not me. I begged my mother stay here, near Earth, "in case the inhabitents of Earth needed help. After all, we have 7 starships, they could be avery valuable resource for Earth in recovering from what ever happens, and could possibly provide other assistance in mitigating the "pitfalls" of this time.

You need to understand, that I had the opportunity to leave Earth, and return to my home world. And, well you see where I am today ... although, Texas, isn't going to be a fond memory (too hot). I was told in very clear "language" they help would only be provided in the event of a "natural" event, as opposed to one created by Humans. And, that I would have to remain "on-world" until it was neccessary to remove me for safety, or the event period has passed. I'm not looking at early 2013 to be re-united with my people.

As for what event is likely to happen, unfortunately all of my science doesn't shed any additional light this. But, Islands moving 13 feet (or what ever it was), and causing seriously major earthquakes, tsunamis, and the like, as far as I can see, don't even constitute a "warm-up act".

The large problem here is that for us to help with these smaller(?) events, Earth must disclose everything on the UFO / ET issues (intergalactic and interstellar law prevents us from taking action as long as the "non-interferrence" accord is valid. If Earth were to be plunged into enough chaos by a natural disaster, then we could act openly, but not until...

I get frustrated with the Human species, the answers to all their questions are laying around in the open, everywhere, and, it seems, than none of you have the eyes to recognize it. There are, fortunately, some of you who do see the answers, and while your interpretation may be different than mine, I think we both get the message. (and to you, and at least a couple others in this thread ... "right-on"

Etharzi od Oma

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Hey AnthraAndromda,

I did something really stupid, I had this long post typed with videos I wanted everyone to see on here, You and WeZet and everyone else, and I posted it to the wrong thread. Well, first I edited it and deleted it. But, I have to retype it all over again. I was so mad at myself, but I will re-do it, but will be later otherwise it would have been up already. I just wanted to let you all know that I'm still here and putting things together.

I read your last response to my question, 2012 huh? It may be sooner than we think though. There's another video I will put up of someone who was abducted at young age and I wanted to see if you two matched stories, kinda . I will post that too, it's very interesting. This other persons views do not match my percieved notion of demons, I do look at all sides despite what it may look like.

I have to do other things at the moment work and home and all, very busy life, we all know about this I'm sure, but I will post soon, maybe later this evening. I will also read your thread which you linked to in your post soon. Something is about to happen on and to the earth really bad, I'm just trying to figure out who and what to trust. Hopefully there is a Rapture and we won't be here, but I don't believe in the rapture doctrine. And in that case we all need to know the scenario to play out if there isn't a Rapture.