Ufo's, New Age. They are not what you think they are!

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Thank you chloe4412 for your encouragement. I heard a lecture from another member though, I really thought that was strange, it was directed at all I'm sure, but, you never know. When someone comes at you, you must defend yourself. I am not a child by any means. You are quite funny. I laughed alot. Thanks to you and bless you. Daphne.

I'll think about the thread. Ok.

u2u me if I don't continue. We can talk there if you like, I appreciate the defense.

Originally posted by DaphneApollo
reply to post by chloe4412

 

Thank you chloe4412 for your encouragement. I heard a lecture from another member though, I really thought that was strange, it was directed at all I'm sure, but, you never know. When someone comes at you, you must defend yourself. I am not a child by any means. You are quite funny. I laughed alot. Thanks to you and bless you. Daphne.

I'll think about the thread. Ok.

u2u me if I don't continue. We can talk there if you like, I appreciate the defense.

Sorry, I have been away. I did'nt think you would answer me but i'm happy you did. You heard a lecture from another member, I don't think he meant it like that DaphneApollo, he was probably mad as hell too. You seem to be hurt I can see that, but don't give up alright. You have every right to defend yourself and you should. Just remember to ignore idiots in the future. And I try to be funny and cutting at the same time it keeps the jackals out of your face. Like they say, "When they get up in your grill, get in theirs."

We can't all be like Jesus, look at what they did to him, they killed him. We can love, sometimes tuff love teaches more than any other. Christian interpreted does not mean Doormat, once you turn the other cheek and are slapped on that one too, well, in my opinion, all hell will break loose. Christ tore up the money changers tables and kicked ass too. Keep this in mind. I have 20 posts now, you and me can u2u .


Make another thread, it's all good baby. Peace out.

P.S. btw; I'm from Georgia, I see you are from the deep south too. We Southern women got to stick together.
keep it real.

Satan is the deciever of all mankind. He comes with lying wonders and false miracles, ufos are his latest ploy to take us down with him. DO NOT BE FOOLED.

Originally posted by King33
Satan is the deciever of all mankind. He comes with lying wonders and false miracles, ufos are his latest ploy to take us down with him. DO NOT BE FOOLED.

Thank you, it's called the "Great Deception." Appreciate your post Brother/Sister.

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Glad to see you still around DaphneApollo. I was just monitoring a similar thread about people trying to use meditation to contact these demonic beings they think are aliens. Several people spoke up with our point of view, but for the most part it's just folks from either the alien believer camp or the alien denier camp. Anyway, may God bless you.

Originally posted by King33
Satan is the deciever of all mankind. He comes with lying wonders and false miracles, ufos are his latest ploy to take us down with him. DO NOT BE FOOLED.

Please be so kinds as to research the origin of the word "satan" and see what it means, before you go and say things like that? The word means like a job description, "adversary," like an opposing attorney in a court case. There is no being with that name. I have a good friend who is very deep into satan and Black Magick, he has studied these things for years. When he attempted to call up "satan" to make a deal with him, what he got was Set, Ruler of the Underworld, and he was not pleased being called by that title, and told my friend not to every call him again. So, to me, if there actually were such a being, he would have came then. Do your research, friend. The things you fear most are but myths made up to frighten you into submission.

Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by King33
Satan is the deciever of all mankind. He comes with lying wonders and false miracles, ufos are his latest ploy to take us down with him. DO NOT BE FOOLED.

Please be so kinds as to research the origin of the word "satan" and see what it means, before you go and say things like that? The word means like a job description, "adversary," like an opposing attorney in a court case. There is no being with that name. I have a good friend who is very deep into satan and Black Magick, he has studied these things for years. When he attempted to call up "satan" to make a deal with him, what he got was Set, Ruler of the Underworld, and he was not pleased being called by that title, and told my friend not to every call him again. So, to me, if there actually were such a being, he would have came then. Do your research, friend. The things you fear most are but myths made up to frighten you into submission.

Hi autowrench, good to connect with you. But, I must respectfully agree to disagree with you.

Satan (Hebrew: הַשָׂטָן ha-Satan), "the opposer",[1] is the title of various entities, both human and divine, who challenge the faith of humans in the Hebrew Bible.[2] In Christianity and Islam the title became a personal name, and "Satan" changed from an accuser appointed by God to test men's faith to the chief of the rebellious fallen angels ("the devil" in Christianity, "Shaitan" in Arabic, the term used by Arab Christians and Muslims).[3]

wikipedia: Satan
Great to see you again, God Bless. Perhaps King33 will have a reply also. Thanks.

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Hi wtbengineer, long time huh? Woe be to all of us, we may all soon find out one way or the other.

It's the ones who stand fast against evil and with God and Christ that will be tried and be victorious when all is said and done. Bring it on. Let the games begin. God wins.

Some will never hear the voice of truth and will fall in the pit with him.

Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by King33
Satan is the deciever of all mankind. He comes with lying wonders and false miracles, ufos are his latest ploy to take us down with him. DO NOT BE FOOLED.

Please be so kinds as to research the origin of the word "satan" and see what it means, before you go and say things like that? The word means like a job description, "adversary," like an opposing attorney in a court case. There is no being with that name. I have a good friend who is very deep into satan and Black Magick, he has studied these things for years. When he attempted to call up "satan" to make a deal with him, what he got was Set, Ruler of the Underworld, and he was not pleased being called by that title, and told my friend not to every call him again. So, to me, if there actually were such a being, he would have came then. Do your research, friend. The things you fear most are but myths made up to frighten you into submission.

Well please inform your friend i fear not satan, SET, the morning star, the lightbringer, dragon, beast, devil, lucifer or what else you prefare him or it. Peace

reply to post by DaphneApollo

Great to see you too, DaphneApollo, perhaps you can answer me a few questions? I have a had time understanding Earth religious dogma, so please bear with me.
1. If God created Satan, why would he do this?

2. On the same question, if it is true, as I have been told, that it would be impossible for God to create a stone that he could not lift, then how could he create an Angel he could not defeat in a fight?

3. If all Angels were created without Free Will, and created only to server God, then where did the free will to rebel come from?

4. Can you name you God? In Ancient times, there were many gods and Goddesses. In the KJV Holy bible alone there are 18, most of whom command that they be called "Lord." Did your god kill off these other thousands of Gods, or did they go away somewhere, or did they all meld into one big God?

5. Why is it that God needs Satan/Devil to exist? Can he not just destroy the Devil and be done with it?

6. Why is it in the first Book of Moses, Genesis, God has to create man and woman twice? Did the first models fail?

7. Why do you follow a genocidal God? In the Holy Bible, the God in there commits many acts of murder, rape, pillage, and seems to like virgins a lot. Then in the New Testament, he suddenly turns into a good guy. In Earth politics this is call "flip-flopping." Is this how it is with the biblical God, in your view?

8. There are two Goddesses in the Bible, one, Diana of the Ephesians (Acts 19:35) is called, "The Queen of Heaven." Why is the Queen of Heaven never mentioned by Christians, not in churches, and why is any Being called "Goddess" given the name "Whore of Babylon?" Every living animal on Earth is male and female, why then are all three parts of God male? Where is the Goddess in the House of the Divine?

My last question is one I asked in a recent post, could you please address it for me?
Why the Polar Opposites in Christianity?

Now bear in mind, DaphneApollo, I like you and respect you. I just would like someone who is a Christian, such as yourself, to answer me these questions? Thank you, and bless you.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH

I am so glad you posted this.

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by DaphneApollo

 

Great to see you too, DaphneApollo, perhaps you can answer me a few questions? I have a had time understanding Earth religious dogma, so please bear with me.
1. If God created Satan, why would he do this?

God created Lucifer. He is the one who exalted HIMSELF above God and was kicked out of heaven onto earth with 1/3 of the angels. He is now known as Satan.

2. On the same question, if it is true, as I have been told, that it would be impossible for God to create a stone that he could not lift, then how could he create an Angel he could not defeat in a fight?

He did defeat him. The Bible says he saw Satan fall as lightening to the earth. Luke 10:18 Michael the Arch Angel kicked him out. He fell to earth. But God didn't leave us defenseless. He sent us Jesus.

3. If all Angels were created without Free Will, and created only to server God, then where did the free will to rebel come from?

The Bible mentions NOTHING about them not having free will.

4. Can you name you God? In Ancient times, there were many gods and Goddesses. In the KJV Holy bible alone there are 18, most of whom command that they be called "Lord." Did your god kill off these other thousands of Gods, or did they go away somewhere, or did they all meld into one big God?

I am. Those other beings called gods that are being worshiped and were worshiped are creations. Not THE CREATOR.

5. Why is it that God needs Satan/Devil to exist? Can he not just destroy the Devil and be done with it?

He doesn't need him to exist. The Bible doesn't state that he needs the devil to exist.

6. Why is it in the first Book of Moses, Genesis, God has to create man and woman twice? Did the first models fail?

That is not written. There is only one account.

7. Why do you follow a genocidal God? In the Holy Bible, the God in there commits many acts of murder, rape, pillage, and seems to like virgins a lot. Then in the New Testament, he suddenly turns into a good guy. In Earth politics this is call "flip-flopping." Is this how it is with the biblical God, in your view?

Where in the Bible does God rape and pillage ? You made this up.

8. There are two Goddesses in the Bible, one, Diana of the Ephesians (Acts 19:35) is called, "The Queen of Heaven." Why is the Queen of Heaven never mentioned by Christians, not in churches, and why is any Being called "Goddess" given the name "Whore of Babylon?" Every living animal on Earth is male and female, why then are all three parts of God male? Where is the Goddess in the House of the Divine?

See my answer to number 4.

My last question is one I asked in a recent post, could you please address it for me?
Why the Polar Opposites in Christianity?

There are no polar opposites.

Now bear in mind, DaphneApollo, I like you and respect you. I just would like someone who is a Christian, such as yourself, to answer me these questions? Thank you, and bless you.

I understand your question was not addressed to me personally, but being the daughter of a late preacher I felt obligated.

Please be so kinds as to research the origin of the word "satan" and see what it means, before you go and say things like that? The word means like a job description, "adversary," like an opposing attorney in a court case. There is no being with that name. I have a good friend who is very deep into satan and Black Magick, he has studied these things for years. When he attempted to call up "satan" to make a deal with him, what he got was Set, Ruler of the Underworld, and he was not pleased being called by that title, and told my friend not to every call him again. So, to me, if there actually were such a being, he would have came then. Do your research, friend. The things you fear most are but myths made up to frighten you into submission.

That is very disturbing, but explains your other post.

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Hi autowrench, those are all great questions, to be honest with you I didn't expect this thread to come back up again, I was surprised to see it come up today. I am busy in everyday life as we all are I'm sure, but I will answer your questions thoroughly when I can tomorrow or the weekend. I like discussing these things calmly and completely as best I can. I have had all these questions myself and I understand where the wondering comes from. It's easy to doubt something you cannot see, (God) I know.

Thanks and I'm happy to discuss this with you. Bless you. Just letting you know I am not avoiding your questions. And we may still not agree but that's alright too. Daphne.

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Hi skepticconwatcher, thanks for your answers to autowrench , that was nice of you. I will discuss it too and you're welcome to join in. If I get it wrong you can correct it.

Originally posted by WhizPhiz
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I now believe Aliens to be Demons, not saviours, not creators, not gods.

True, they are not Gods, not anymore than they are demons or angels. They are creators though, just as humans are creators. They are simply intelligent life forms, the term "alien" just describes their origin. Not of this earth. The real deception is believing they are anything magical or divine.

edit on 12-3-2011 by WhizPhiz because: (no reason given)

Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. They are not 'Gods', someone finally gets it, thank you!

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But, why would the fallen angels come down unto the daughters of men to be with them?

Where does the scripture state that?

How is it, that you've come to the conclusion that the Sons of Gods are Fallen Angels?? Where exactly did you find the scripture at that STATES this is so??

my same argument as before with no reply from a previous thread

Anyways.. you know what, why is it.. that we as human on the offensive and have no logical thought and go straight for the throat and say .. THEIR demons.. and most do not even try and go for the other side.. which is ..

Benevolence....I'm sick to death of the fear mongering and no scripture to back up their theories; as I've requested before.. please provide scripture to back up this theory beside as it was in the days of Noah.

out of all the history of ancient documents of UFO's only a very few actually have these craft causing any harm or destruction, if any kind.

My quesiton is.. why can't you believe they are angels? If they were malevolent, wouldn't we be completely wipe out by now?? !!!!! Think about it..

If the demon that Jesus cast out of the man in the graveyard, as an alien, did he jump in his UFO and fly off ??

I mean .. seriously!!! What about the thread that just got posted about Mr.Stearman, the owner of Stearman Aviation, which had UFO encounter, and was at the airport in 10 mins when it should have taken him a full 60 mins to get there~!

That REALLY sounds malevolent to me~! If demons have ANYTHING do with that encounter, they would have either toasted that plane in a big giant ball of flame or rammed it with their ship ~!!

Don't you think? .........let me put this way, Demons = malevolent, Angels = Benevolent and there's no switching camps for them.. Do I think they're Angels, no, I think they are exactly what they are, ETs, nothing more and nothing less.

However, just like humans, they have a choice to be Benevolent or malevolent.. you know .. just like us human beings down here on earth.. we have a choice.. so do they.

I'll be waiting for those scriptures starting from Genesis to Revelations, in context please.

However, I also believe they can be mentally influenced by demons if they are biological species & perhaps possessed.

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Where does the scripture state that? How is it, that you've come to the conclusion that the Sons of Gods are Fallen Angels?? Where exactly did you find the scripture at that STATES this is so??

Hi, I will attempt to show you.

Genesis 6:2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."The "sons of God" are angelic beings, or angels, and their offspring are called "the Nephilim". These angelic beings, or angels saw the daughters of men were beautiful. These are the fallen angels of Jude 6, who followed Satan in his fall in the "world that was", which is the first earth age. Jude 6 reads; "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

So here we have a problem, for these offspring were not born innocent of woman, but their true parentage , came directly from the heavens. They "left their habitation, as we saw in Jude six, and began to seduce the daughters of men. We are told that there were no women in the world that was, that first earth age, for all souls existed as "sons of God". They refused to come to earth as required in our Heavenly Father's plan, through the womb of woman, but rather came and took the women as their wives.

God plan required all souls to come to earth to be born of woman, and as an innocent soul; These angels defiled God and took these earthly women as play things. So these fallen angels [the sons of God] came and produced a mixture of earthly man, and angelic being which was a monstrosity, to walk the earth. Why again did this take place?

Because Satan tried to destroy the womb of woman, and the perfect, pure blood line of man, that the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ would be born through. That Christ child would provide salvation for all souls, that would believe upon Him.

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Originally posted by darkcloak88

Originally posted by WhizPhiz
reply to post by DaphneApollo

 

I now believe Aliens to be Demons, not saviours, not creators, not gods.

True, they are not Gods, not anymore than they are demons or angels. They are creators though, just as humans are creators. They are simply intelligent life forms, the term "alien" just describes their origin. Not of this earth. The real deception is believing they are anything magical or divine.

edit on 12-3-2011 by WhizPhiz because: (no reason given)

Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. They are not 'Gods', someone finally gets it, thank you!

edit on 26-8-2011 by darkcloak88 because: (no reason given)

Just one past thread here on ATS: People are more and more questioning God and equating him as an Alien.
Could Ancient Gods Be Aliens?

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