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Ive always thought that aliens, greys, etc. were evil spirits, demons. The one thing evil spirits desire most is to have a body or to consume a body. Aliens are evil spirits who have constructed a suit like body that they can manifest in a physical manner. Im well aware and think there are other Aliens that are extra terrestrial that are on other worlds like ours, but they don't come in contact with our earth.

Originally posted by shamaniski
Ive always thought that aliens, greys, etc. were evil spirits, demons. The one thing evil spirits desire most is to have a body or to consume a body. Aliens are evil spirits who have constructed a suit like body that they can manifest in a physical manner. Im well aware and think there are other Aliens that are extra terrestrial that are on other worlds like ours, but they don't come in contact with our earth.

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Hi shamaniski,

I think even the good ones are ify , Greys are probably a given, their not the nicest beings are they? The vimanas on some of the above videos tell of visiting the moon and Mars, so, that's where all the face and Pyramids on Mars stories come from, the fallen angels. I always wondered this too. I'm learning along with you and everyone else.

There probably are Aliens on other worlds out there, the Universe is massive, you're right. I guess we won't know until the show begins on earth what any of them truly are, but trust worthy I wouldn't call them, any of them.

I believe demons are as real as your mind can perceive them. that goes for aliens, elfs and leprechauns also. I beleive we are arguing over semantics here, due to us simply not being able to grasp, that what we focus our mind on, we manifest. If you are surrounding yourself with Jesus Christ, angels and Gods love, then you do so because you manifest that into your existence. If you see lights on the skies and feel connected to offworld entities - well - then THAT is your manifestation.

What I think this all boils down to, is just difference in focus and attraction. What we are left with, in essence, are various positive and negative energies, to which we appoint meaning.

Instead of argueing whether what we are experiencing are alien entities or demons, we should be figuring out how to control those energies, as we - truly - are capable of managing our love and our fears to perfection.


Whether you love through God, through an open heart, or through a slightly bent cardboard box - you are still left with just that, the love. Not God, not your heart and perhaps especially not those cardboard boxes.



Scissorville

The problem is that if they are indeed demons playing aliens, they will cause many to go to hell, by spreading false doctrines. Even if they act like friendly spirits, what they would be doing in essence is cause doubt about the gospel, hence influencing you to throw salvation away.

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Hi Scissorville,

I believe demons are as real as your mind can perceive them. that goes for aliens, elfs and leprechauns also. I beleive we are arguing over semantics here, due to us simply not being able to grasp, that what we focus our mind on, we manifest. If you are surrounding yourself with Jesus Christ, angels and Gods love, then you do so because you manifest that into your existence. If you see lights on the skies and feel connected to offworld entities - well - then THAT is your manifestation.

I'm just kidding around when I say this but are you a Psychologist in your everyday life, you sound like one.

Your paragraph above reminds me of a movie called 'Jacobs Ladder' and the doctor in that one says something of this nature to a character in the movie " If you see demons you'll get demons, but if you see Angels you'll get angels." Great movie.

I don't think Scissorville that all the researchers in this field of Ufology, Investigators, Military, etc. are just imagining or manifesting these things. They are real to the people who are encountering them and some encounters , which I haven't brought up yet, align themselves with cattle mutilations. These cases are about them being mutilated alive. I don't think anyone wishes or envisions this kind of fate on themselves.

Over 10,000 years ago or more/less, women of earth were not manifesting the fallen angels/watchers onto themselves, which in turn caused God to Flood the earth to get rid of them, He cleaned house more than once, Bible says he did. He'll shake his etcha sketch again to change the picture he sees soon.

I agree to a certain degree about our psyche manifesting alot of things. Hypnosis proves alot of what you are saying, Dianetics says this also. You can plant things in peoples minds and you can do this to yourself also, "As you sow, also you shall reap." " Garbage in, garabage out." And so on.

I'm certainly not arguing with you, in certain respects I feel this way too. You can sometimes turn a negative into a positive simply by changing your perception of the situation. But, I'm taking the behaviours of these aliens, visitors , peoples experiences , and matching them with what God says and history says about these things and the picture starts to come together in a much different way for me at least.

Instead of argueing whether what we are experiencing are alien entities or demons, we should be figuring out how to control those energies, as we - truly - are capable of managing our love and our fears to perfection.

You are correct here about controlling energies ( love, fear) nothing can hurt you if you don't allow it to.

Whether you love through God, through an open heart, or through a slightly bent cardboard box - you are still left with just that, the love. Not God, not your heart and perhaps especially not those cardboard boxes

"God is Love" So God must come into our reality. But, love and positive energy beats the dark energy any day, you are correct Scissorville. Thanks for your positive post. DaphneApollo

Originally posted by 547000
The problem is that if they are indeed demons playing aliens, they will cause many to go to hell, by spreading false doctrines. Even if they act like friendly spirits, what they would be doing in essence is cause doubt about the gospel, hence influencing you to throw salvation away.

Hi 547000,

Exactly. This is the Game of the End Times. Satan works very hard at undoing and undermining God. They are after as many souls as possibe, they hate God's creation, they hate US. But, God will allow it to test if we love him to see which side we will choose. But, Satan loses. Haha.

Know the game and what's coming ( deceiving aliens , Satans army) Powers of the air, and you won't throw your salvation away.

Be smarter than the serpant.

Originally posted by DaphneApollo
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Hi WhizPhiz,

The real deception is believing they are anything magical or divine.

Well, they aren't divine, the alien abduction cases that I've read in the past tell me they aren't nice either, the Greys I mean. I wouldn't like to be jerked out of bed in the middle of the night and all those things done to me. That's not of God, that's sinister. Just my opinion though.

DaphneApollo

Thats not god, thats sinister????

Recently i spoke to a group of "born again christians" and when i mentioned to them, "so who killed all those innocent people in Haiti with the earthquake?", the response was "God killed them, for not believing in him".

Now i dont claim to be chrisitan, i have my own beliefs about things and i believe in a creator...end of story, but when someone tells me that hundreds of thousands of people were killed because they didnt worhip God, i say this....

THATS NOT GOD, THATS SINISTER

I'd rather NOT believe in a god who felt it was right to kill those that didnt worship him, those that didnt worship him would go to get tortured for all eternity in hell, so by killing them their free choice is removed!

THATS NOT GOD, THATS SINISTER

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I used to be a materialist before I had spiritual experiences. So a stumbling block to many is the existence of spirit. And even once they finally discover spirits are real, many cannot fathom that there are seducing spirits who tell you what you want to hear rather than what is true. That's another major stumbling block to people. Once you realize those two things can you truly understand why so much emphasis on scripture is to beware lying spirits. Many people think when Christians say UFOs might be demons and that witchcraft and ghosts are demons and demon-worship, they think they are just brainwashed fundamentalists. That's because they don't know both facts, nor have experienced either.

Originally posted by DaphneApollo

Originally posted by 547000
The problem is that if they are indeed demons playing aliens, they will cause many to go to hell, by spreading false doctrines. Even if they act like friendly spirits, what they would be doing in essence is cause doubt about the gospel, hence influencing you to throw salvation away.

Hi 547000,

Exactly. This is the Game of the End Times. Satan works very hard at undoing and undermining God. They are after as many souls as possibe, they hate God's creation, they hate US. But, God will allow it to test if we love him to see which side we will choose. But, Satan loses. Haha.

Know the game and what's coming ( deceiving aliens , Satans army) Powers of the air, and you won't throw your salvation away.

Be smarter than the serpant.

Dont you think that if its definately true that satan looses, and we "supposedly" know that, that he would just give up? Otherwise he is condemning himself to death by God...

It just doesnt add up for me i'm afraid...

Why cant people just believe their own thing? Why do people have to follow things that cant be proven 100%...follow your heart, not your brain and you'll be fine!

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Did i just hear you write and you say you are in contact with other beings???

If so have you started any threads on the subject.

Also why don't you ask your mates to come and post about the Aliens are demons thing here on ATS?

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God already pronounced his fate, but gave him leniency to roam the earth until that day when all are judged. No matter what he does at this point he's screwed. There's no undoing eternal judgment.

DaphneApollo you sound alot like The professional who was on here just days ago saying the Aliens were the Djinn in The Koran.

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You're right. And you can't convince anyone of these things by arguement. You can only know from experience. I know because of my experience that there is fundamental truth that we can't change no matter what we would like to believe or what we wish things were like. It's just like the laws of physics. You have to work in a certain framework. That is the way things are. You can't flap your arms and fly just because it's a cute idea and you can visualize yourself doing it. Spiritual stuff is the same.

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Hi jrmcleod,

Recently i spoke to a group of "born again christians" and when i mentioned to them, "so who killed all those innocent people in Haiti with the earthquake?", the response was "God killed them, for not believing in him".

You know jrmcleod, don't "born again christians" just spoil it for the rest of us. They P*** me off too o.k. Anyone and I do mean anyone can have Christ with them always and not behave like this type. We are going through earth changes at this very moment and I'm afraid it will get worse. What happened just last month in Japan will happen worldwide very soon. So, God will get more of us soon. www.poleshift2011.com...

I can't imagine that all those people don't believe in God, they are wrong for being so judgemental, just know that.

Now i dont claim to be chrisitan, i have my own beliefs about things and i believe in a creator...end of story, but when someone tells me that hundreds of thousands of people were killed because they didnt worhip God, i say this....

If you do good to others, give money to homeless people on the street, help others where you can , give your time to others , this is what Christ tells us to do isn't it. If you are doing these things, you are doing it unto him. He knows your heart and no one can judge you otherwise. "If you've done unto others , you have done unto me."

I can see you have righteous anger and that is good. "The most important things in life.....aren't Things." We all need to care more for our fellow men and women , sisters and brothers than Things.

THATS NOT GOD, THATS SINISTER

Absolutely!!!

I'd rather NOT believe in a god who felt it was right to kill those that didnt worship him, those that didnt worship him would go to get tortured for all eternity in hell, so by killing them their free choice is removed!

What I'm talking about here is not a joke, it's imperative that we all understand that our souls are at stake. This thread is about letting people know there is a plan in the works to bring the whole world into the New World Order and to recognize and piece together how that is going to play out. These individuals bringing this together worship Satan (Son of Perdition) he's already going into the fire anyway. I'm trying to get people to see the lie that's coming along with others before me, that don't be fooled by these craft that will show up. Hopefully, the eternity in Hell is only a metaphor for us whose spiritual bodies are stuck in heavy flesh and blood bodies. But, Satan can burn as far as I'm concerned, he's caused enough pain and suffering don't you think?

Dont you think that if its definately true that satan looses, and we "supposedly" know that, that he would just give up? Otherwise he is condemning himself to death by God...

He is already marked for death, he is the Son of Perdition. Why God allows it I don't know, but it's all a game and we are the Chess pieces upon the board.

It just doesnt add up for me i'm afraid...

www.theseason.org... I am not trying to push 'religion' onto you, but it seems you have questions and I would like to provide answers to those questions for you. Just read Genesis chapter 1-6 and it will answer so much for you. This person gives exhaustive explainations of all scricptures. Please take a look. You don't have to be Christian, but look at the Bible as of God and a history lesson. Chapter by Chapter and verse by verse teaching.

Why cant people just believe their own thing? Why do people have to follow things that cant be proven 100%...follow your heart, not your brain and you'll be fine!

With wisdom your heart will never lead you astray. If you don't believe it, don't follow it, just that simple. Blessings to you.

Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by DaphneApollo

 

I used to be a materialist before I had spiritual experiences. So a stumbling block to many is the existence of spirit. And even once they finally discover spirits are real, many cannot fathom that there are seducing spirits who tell you what you want to hear rather than what is true. That's another major stumbling block to people. Once you realize those two things can you truly understand why so much emphasis on scripture is to beware lying spirits. Many people think when Christians say UFOs might be demons and that witchcraft and ghosts are demons and demon-worship, they think they are just brainwashed fundamentalists. That's because they don't know both facts, nor have experienced either.

Hi 547000,

We're not fundamentalists are we? This is to keep people out of harms way. Know thy opponent and all will be well with thee. New Age tells these lies from chanelling spirits, to playing with cards, etc. they are divination and they will get your life in a whole lot of trouble, seducing spirits. Read about the "The Bell Witch" even the President of the United States , Andrew Jackson, heard her voice. They are real indeed. Watch "An American Haunting" maybe it's on Youtube. That is about the Bell Witch.

Unclean spirits are real and God isn't telling you lies just to hear himself talk.

Originally posted by Slipdig1
DaphneApollo you sound alot like The professional who was on here just days ago saying the Aliens were the Djinn in The Koran.

Just quoted myself as you seem to have missed my question? Are you the same person as this Professional.

Originally posted by Slipdig1
DaphneApollo you sound alot like The professional who was on here just days ago saying the Aliens were the Djinn in The Koran.

Hi Slipdig,

I read this thread a week or so ago and only his posts and the whole thing was "Prove me wrong" , Prove the Koran is wrong. No passages to back it up that I saw coming from that poster, I left that one alone. So, we're not the same I don't think. I don't mess with the Koran I won't give my opinion on it. I'm a believer in Yhwh, Yahaveh and Yeshua (Jesus) not Allah. God. And I give plenty to at least give you an idea what I'm talking about here.

Just saw your last question. No, I am not The Professional. My real name is Daphne. You can find my posts in the Warnings from the Benevolents pages 230 forward. Thanks.

Originally posted by shamaniski
Ive always thought that aliens, greys, etc. were evil spirits, demons. The one thing evil spirits desire most is to have a body or to consume a body. Aliens are evil spirits who have constructed a suit like body that they can manifest in a physical manner. Im well aware and think there are other Aliens that are extra terrestrial that are on other worlds like ours, but they don't come in contact with our earth.

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What if it were humans who have constructed a human body, before being born to woman, and they were in fact the Demons everyone is so afraid of? I get so tired of people always saying that ALL ETs are demons, and I know they are just justifying their own belief system, and are not posting facts at all. I have been contacted by ET for most of my life, since early childhood. My mother, a fundamentalist Christian who thought the same way you did, she completely disowned me in 1987, thinking I was in league with Satan because I saw and spoke with extraterrestrial beings. I can tell you that Demons are nothing but something made up by the Holy Roman Church, but it would do not good, will it? The very word "Demon" comes from the Greek word Daimon/Daemon, and means "guardian spirit." Also known as a Guardian Angel.
So, do you see who the Demons are now? You and I both are. Not ET.

I myself cannot answer that question, but there does seem to be a concerted effort to convince us all that anything ET or Alien is automatically a Satan/Demon/Jinn directly from the Devil to fool everyone so they all go to Hell. I guess Heaven must be getting full, so they try to turn everyone else away? I really do not know what the agenda is, but is ET did not exist, then millions are telling the same lie all the time, and thousands of photos and videos must be faked, costing billions of dollars and a vast conspiracy so big half the world is in on it. That must be why America is now broke, they spent it all in the Great UFO Cover up. I have to just laugh when a religious person says that, it really shows their lack of intelligence and learning.