Oh no, Yellowstone May have been awakened by the 8.8

I hate to be one of them american bashers like we've seen alot of in recent weeks.....But why is it that every time something happens somewhere on the planet, it instantly creates a talking point about the USA which on most occasions gets more S+F than the initial topic.

I've noticed it alot lately and it might explain some of the anti america threads. Whilst its human nature to think about how something will impact you personally, it just feels like some of our american members are of the viewpoint 'right, how can we turn this into news about us'. When I logged in today I thought to myself how many posts are there going to be about yellowstone off the back of Japans quake...I wasnt dissapointed. The same thing happened a few weeks back with the protests across europe. Minutes after the thread had been posted it had been hijacked about how its americas turn next etc.

I will probably get flamed for this post but seriously guys, not every piece of worldwide news has to relate to america somehow

reply to post by onetruesaxon


Don't let our media fool you, or stereotype us for that matter... Our mass media has become so bloated and ratings hungry lately I'm ashamed to call it American. IMO, our ethnocentrism is a symptom of a much larger disease. We spent our early years learning to sing it's praises and pledge allegiance to it's symbols, and, my generation at least, got a right good paddling if we didn't.

Originally posted by onetruesaxon
I will probably get flamed for this post but seriously guys, not every piece of worldwide news has to relate to america somehow

I agree, but sadly enough, a lot of the dumber of us wouldn't care UNLESS it somehow effected America, or rather, US. Unless its something sports related, which never made sense to me

Originally posted by twitchy
reply to post by onetruesaxon

 

Don't let our media fool you, or stereotype us for that matter... Our mass media has become so bloated and ratings hungry lately I'm ashamed to call it American. IMO, our ethnocentrism is a symptom of a much larger disease. We spent our early years learning to sing it's praises and pledge allegiance to it's symbols, and, my generation at least, got a right good paddling if we didn't.

Yeah, I remember I went to school with a couple kids who weren't US citizens and were only in the US because of their parents and got in trouble for refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag.

Politics in our media is very very watered down with flashy graphics, and reduces everything to a simple "us vs them" mentality, also, most of our jobs are assembly line style jobs, and stupid people are sympathized with and smart people are viewed as "arrogant"

Originally posted by onetruesaxon
I hate to be one of them american bashers like we've seen alot of in recent weeks.....But why is it that every time something happens somewhere on the planet, it instantly creates a talking point about the USA which on most occasions gets more S+F than the initial topic.

I've noticed it alot lately and it might explain some of the anti america threads. Whilst its human nature to think about how something will impact you personally, it just feels like some of our american members are of the viewpoint 'right, how can we turn this into news about us'. When I logged in today I thought to myself how many posts are there going to be about yellowstone off the back of Japans quake...I wasnt dissapointed. The same thing happened a few weeks back with the protests across europe. Minutes after the thread had been posted it had been hijacked about how its americas turn next etc.

I will probably get flamed for this post but seriously guys, not every piece of worldwide news has to relate to america somehow

It may be true in some cases, but this time I don't think this is the case. There is an ongoing topic about the Japan quakes/tsunamis, and this topic is about Yellowstone activity.
It is natural to fear the consequences in your local area when you see horrible news like that. I don't think that anyone here takes the events in Japan lightly, it is a horrible tragedy, and very sad to look at.

Edit: Personally I believe all major events affect all of us somehow.
-Uprising in Libya might bring more refugees who loot the f out of your country (Egypt), or increase oil prices
-Tsunami in Japan may also bring tsunami to U.S, Mexico.. etc
-Nuclear meltdown.. well we all know
And the list goes on, so in a way yes, all news about Japan also affect other countries.

Maybe I misunderstood your point, but I think it's ok to discuss anything we wish here on ATS.

I have been taking daily readings on my compass which is on my windowsill, it is never moved. This morning it says the needle had moved 40 degrees to the east, in essence the north is now 40 degrees north east to where it was before the earthquake. I didn't look yesterday so I don't know when this took place? I live in Scotland, north of the equator. Anyone else noted this on their compasses?
Also before the quake I noted on Thursday night that the constellation Ursa Major, The Big Bear (Big Dipper) was further north, as in it seemed to be higher in the sky to the night before? The Polaris (North Pole Star) seemed to be off centre as well.

Originally posted by kalenga
I have been taking daily readings on my compass which is on my windowsill, it is never moved. This morning it says the needle had moved 40 degrees to the east, in essence the north is now 40 degrees north east to where it was before the earthquake. I didn't look yesterday so I don't know when this took place? I live in Scotland, north of the equator. Anyone else noted this on their compasses?
Also before the quake I noted on Thursday night that the constellation Ursa Major, The Big Bear (Big Dipper) was further north, as in it seemed to be higher in the sky to the night before? The Polaris (North Pole Star) seemed to be off centre as well.

I think there would have been major panic in the world by now if there was any visible change, somebody is always looking at the sky.

There was a pole shift (as with most strong earthquakes)
www.montrealgazette.com...

Sorry, no end of the world yet, and no cataclysmic pole shift.

reply to post by ModerateSkeptic
This might be anecdotal observations but the Innuit tribes nowadays are reporting changes to the skies and seasons. The Mayans predicted what is going on right now without the aid of gadgets, scientific research etc....
I did not even say the end of the world etc.... i am just reporting what I am observing in my part of the world.
I am sitting watching inches of snow falling outside and tonight we turn our clocks forward for British Summer Time!
People who live near Yellowstone are reporting tremors and shakes but it is not being officially recognised. So their anecdotal observations are rubbish?

Old faithful.. more like old fateful.
Am I right O.P.?
Hashna Hashna Hashna.

Originally posted by Sandrokuptos

Originally posted by twitchy
reply to post by onetruesaxon

 

Don't let our media fool you, or stereotype us for that matter... Our mass media has become so bloated and ratings hungry lately I'm ashamed to call it American. IMO, our ethnocentrism is a symptom of a much larger disease. We spent our early years learning to sing it's praises and pledge allegiance to it's symbols, and, my generation at least, got a right good paddling if we didn't.

Yeah, I remember I went to school with a couple kids who weren't US citizens and were only in the US because of their parents and got in trouble for refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag.

Politics in our media is very very watered down with flashy graphics, and reduces everything to a simple "us vs them" mentality, also, most of our jobs are assembly line style jobs, and stupid people are sympathized with and smart people are viewed as "arrogant"

Same story here, I want to do something more with my life so I consider to go back to school. A friend of my (and his girlfriend) were joking about that thing. They think I've got the need to prove my self. All I want is really nothing more than get something more out of my life.

And yes, that guy DOES assembly line work (there's nothing wrong with that kind of work, but stil...)

reply to post by onetruesaxon


Totally agree. whenever there is a natural disaster there is at least one ass on here, comes along and says, "MR.BOB PREDICTED THIS 7 DAYS AGO!!!" (totally fabricated thread name) . these people didn't predict anything, there has been a huge natural disaster every year recently, sometimes twice or more.

On topic now, the seismic data at yellow stone. why not call an authority on it, like someone who works at the national park, and see what they think. they might be monotoring it, or might just tell you that it was somthing simple, like malfuntion or it being affected by something else.

reply to post by twitchy


look at the OP, there isn't any information just personal drama, The picture of a graph then offered as 'proof' contained no references, claimed it was ''LOCAL'', it wasn't.

This to you might be instantly believable, to me and others, especially those educated on such matters, it isn't, It isn't much to ask, like t&c advises, to provide some sort of proof for something that, if it were true, would of been of major worldwide significance.

Chicken little threads like these just wastes time, creates apathy, scares people unnecessarily and detracts attention from any real events happening.

Yellowstone is currently showing a NORMAL level of activity, the tremors are NORMAL for such an active area, the seismo's were showing detection or ECHOES of the JAPAN EVENT.

For realtime updates on quakes worldwide, from experts, look here:
earthquake.usgs.gov...

and here:
www.iris.edu...

reply to post by kalenga


This must be a particular phenomenon that is isolated to just you.
Myself and quite possibly many thousands of backyard astronomers seemed to not have any problem their polar alignment last night. Sureley an effect to the degree you speak of would be easily picked up.
Not sure what is up with your reading but for everyone else it is business as usual, all the stars are where they should be.

The japanese quake and Yellowstone are connected.

They are both in the Pacific ring of fire

About 90% of the world's earthquakes and 80% of the world's largest earthquakes occur along the Ring of Fire.

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The 8.8 quake in Chile February 2010 was also in this area

en.wikipedia.org...

The Pacific Ring of Fire (or sometimes just the Ring of Fire) is an area where large numbers of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions occur in the basin of the Pacific Ocean. In a 40,000 km (25,000 mi) horseshoe shape, it is associated with a nearly continuous series of oceanic trenches, volcanic arcs, and volcanic belts and/or plate movements. The Ring of Fire has 452 volcanoes and is home to over 75% of the world's active and dormant volcanoes.[1] It is sometimes called the circum-Pacific belt or the circum-Pacific seismic belt.

About 90% of the world's earthquakes and 80% of the world's largest earthquakes occur along the Ring of Fire. The next most seismic region (5–6% of earthquakes and 17% of the world's largest earthquakes) is the Alpide belt, which extends from Java to Sumatra through the Himalayas, the Mediterranean, and out into the Atlantic. The Mid-Atlantic Ridge is the third most prominent earthquake belt.[2][3]

The Ring of Fire is a direct result of plate tectonics and the movement and collisions of crustal plates.[4] The eastern section of the ring is the result of the Nazca Plate and the Cocos Plate being subducted beneath the westward moving South American Plate. The Cocos Plate is being subducted beneath the Caribbean Plate, in Central America. A portion of the Pacific Plate along with the small Juan de Fuca Plate are being subducted beneath the North American Plate. Along the northern portion the northwestward moving Pacific plate is being subducted beneath the Aleutian Islands arc. Further west the Pacific plate is being subducted along the Kamchatka Peninsula arcs on south past Japan. The southern portion is more complex with a number of smaller tectonic plates in collision with the Pacific plate from the Mariana Islands, the Philippines, Bougainville, Tonga, and New Zealand; this portion excludes Australia, since it lies in the center of its tectonic plate. Indonesia lies between the Ring of Fire along the northeastern islands adjacent to and including New Guinea and the Alpide belt along the south and west from Sumatra, Java, Bali, Flores, and Timor. The famous and very active San Andreas Fault zone of California is a transform fault which offsets a portion of the East Pacific Rise under southwestern United States and Mexico. The motion of the fault generates numerous small earthquakes, at multiple times a day, most of which are too small to be felt.[5][6] The active Queen Charlotte Fault on the west coast of the Queen Charlotte Islands, British Columbia, Canada, has generated three large earthquakes during the 20th century: a magnitude 7 event in 1929, a magnitude 8.1 occurred in 1949 (Canada's largest recorded earthquake) and a magnitude 7.4 in 1970.

reply to post by conar


The internet tells me it is NOT in the ring of fire

Yellowstone.


Ring of fire.


I could be wrong though, im kind of thick

Originally posted by kalenga
I have been taking daily readings on my compass which is on my windowsill, it is never moved. This morning it says the needle had moved 40 degrees to the east, in essence the north is now 40 degrees north east to where it was before the earthquake. I didn't look yesterday so I don't know when this took place? I live in Scotland, north of the equator. Anyone else noted this on their compasses?
Also before the quake I noted on Thursday night that the constellation Ursa Major, The Big Bear (Big Dipper) was further north, as in it seemed to be higher in the sky to the night before? The Polaris (North Pole Star) seemed to be off centre as well.

Here is confirmation for you.

Quake Moved Japans Coast 8 Feet; Shifted Earth's Axis

Reports from the National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology in Italy estimated the 8.9-magnitude quake shifted the planet on its axis by nearly 4 inches (10 centimeters).

reply to post by onetruesaxon


We are also the first to open our wallets when another country needs us. We are the first to offer money,supplies and man power. Lets not discount the hearts of us Americans.
Its only natural for someone to think of the consequences of a disaster such as the one yesterday if it were to happen here. Same as anyone on this planet who lives near a fault line or volcano. Situations like this always makes one think about the possiblilites. It doesnt mean we are thinking only of ourselves only that the disaster brings other possibilities to the forefront of ones mind. Dont worry world, no matter how much you might hate us we will still be there for you when you need us.

Back to topic, Are we able to post some up to date local graphs for yellowstone locations.

Im struggling to find any solid evidence here, I need to know if I should spend my money on a deposit for a house or for food supplies, water, oil and ash masks.

Originally posted by lordtyp0
Explain with citations please. Not seeing anything to show the Yellowstone Calderra was impacted by a quake thousands of miles away.
Unless this is just troll-mongering.

When the earth is moved 8 feet off it's axis, every geological formation is impacted

I don't get this distance thing, we are dealing with one big chunk of planet

Originally posted by pazcat
reply to post by kalenga

 

This must be a particular phenomenon that is isolated to just you.
Myself and quite possibly many thousands of backyard astronomers seemed to not have any problem their polar alignment last night. Sureley an effect to the degree you speak of would be easily picked up.
Not sure what is up with your reading but for everyone else it is business as usual, all the stars are where they should be.

CNN has reported that the earths axis has moved 8 feet