Anybody else feel apathetic and disconnected this month?

reply to post by Tayesin


Becoming a hermit is about the only way to survive mentally and emotionally intact anymore. I don't even wanna go to the grocery store anymore because I don't want to have to pretend interest in someone else's pathetic stories. I know that sounds harsh, but really? I guess I just wanna reach out and shake 'em til their teeth rattle and some reality flows back into their brain. Wake up, FFS already!!

I know I should be ashamed for feeling the way I do, but I can't seem to work up the proper shame. I just feel like everything is all about vanity and greed. We are supposed to want all that "stuff" that everyone else has, and none of it means anything at all. Just a lot of useless, disposable crap that has zero value or meaning. AND we are supposed to be greatful that we have the opportunity to work 70 hours a week to go into debt to almost attain all that stuff!

Screw all that. I know what's important in life, and it ain't starbucks and cadillacs.Too bad I can't convince the rest of the world of that.

Aye, but i think that's partially due to quitting the ol' smokes at the start of the month in my case.

reply to post by mossme89


Yep same here. Although mine began last year, when I looked around my area and realised how destructive it was. I kind of dissociated myself from it all. And spent most of the days looking at the clouds( they are so beautiful) and listening to emotional (not emo) and meaningful music. I'd say stick with it and just admire the natural things. Such as the birds whistling and a child's laughter. In my opinion THAT'S LIFE.

reply to post by jennybee35


My inspirational quote. Thanks!

"I know what's important in life,
and it ain't starbucks and cadillacs.Too bad I can't
convince the rest of the world of that."

People really do need to put their lives into perspective.

@anyone isn't it amazing to know that there's people just like you!

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


I see what you mean. I guess when I think of leading or following, I think of it in terms of authority and authority figures. If I had a choice between giving and recieving orders, I'd choose giving in a heartbeat. But if I am forced to receive orders, I'd try to find a way out to do my own thing, assuming I don't agree with the orders being given and/or don't respect the person giving them.

Such an example would be with my principal. I do not respect her as she is a controlling, micro-managing, power hungry person. I try to avoid her and am tempted to openly defy her when she tells me to do things (I don't because I'd get in trouble, but resent her for it and find a loophole). Other people, like my music teacher, I respect him so while I still question the orders, I do what he says.

reply to post by jennybee35

You wrote my thoughts perfectly there.

I've never cared for The Indoctrinated Dream. When I was 17 I asked my Dad, "What's the meaning of life?"

He said, " You get born, you go to school. Then you finsish school, get a job. Find a girl, get married and have a couple of kids. Then you retire. Then you die and leave the house to your kids." and

Which was followed by me saying, "You're joking? There must be more to Life than just that." He slumped his shoulders and sighed.

Since then I have observed the Indoctrination program in our western culture and find it creates a mold that everyone has to fit into... there is plenty of room inside the mold for differences and personal cultures, but no opportunity for getting outside the box, breaking the mold.

I see almost everyone rushing about, speeding through life so fast they miss all the Signs and Views along the way to getting as much STUFF for themsleves and their kids that they can. What a waste of Life.

Oh well, it's dark out so I can go look at the stars and think about busting the streetlight out front to reduce the light pollution.. see more star that way

Thanks

I've been getting happier and happier and also way more spiritual.

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Sam

Its the same with me. First few months of this year I felt very optimistic and felt as if it was going to be a great year, but these last few weeks I've felt very lethargic, cant focus on work very much, Ive found myself often spacing out and staring in one spot. I've also been getting wierd pains. Ive had a strange pain in my right rib but there is nothing wrong and a strange hot pain in my knee but there is nothing wrong with that either, but I guess should get it checked out. I'll be glad when I can get back to my happy old self soon

reply to post by mossme89


I think most of us who are capable of both leading and following are like you in the sense that they follow pretty comfortably if the person in charge is competent and has a calm, confident air. And dont follow well at all if the person in charge isnt a natural leader and is hysterical, overly concerned with obedience and status, and seems insecure but makes a lot of noise to cover that up.

Im like that too. I dont mind following at all if the person knows whats up and is good at what they do. But I wont follow someone just because someone slaps a "leader" tag on them. I use my intuition and animal instincts to determine if the person is actually worth following.

I also lead, but I tend to not want to unless clearly no one else can get the job done. Im just not interested in fame, prestige, or that much responsibility, unless everything is going straight to hell if I DONT grab the wheel.

BTW, who feels better this morning? I dont want to speak too soon, but I was literally lying on the couch contemplating the end of the world last night while watching Epoch and Legion on Netflix. This morning, I feel better. Not great. But I feel relief. Which isnt what one would expect with all the suffering going on. I should feel worse, but I dont. I feel sorry for the people suffering of course, but my heart feels lighter.

I wonder if the build up of tension in the Earth is what had some of us wound up.

Update to my post yesterday on page 1:

My sister and I, on top of this disconnection type feeling...have both had migraines in the past 48hrs. Goin on day 2 for me now.
Connected?? Whatd'ya think?? Anyone else?

reply to post by starsyren


I have heard some people get earthquake migraines but I know nothing about them, Maybe google that?

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


I didn't sleep too well last night, but probably just because i was up late on the computer and had a sore knee that woke me up at 4

reply to post by sapient

I'm in upstate NY.
I thought the same thing about the benadryl and there is the usual run on cold meds this time of year but there is product on the shelf. Only the sleep med section is empty. I'll post a thread and see if anyone else has noticed, could be interesting.

I live the life of a semi recluse because being an empath I am more comfortable avoiding the distressing emotions that people unwittingly share with me, and I have even felt their physical pain at times.
I live in a quiet area on the edge of town, next to open fields, and with no passing traffic. I am retired, and internet shopping delivers everything I need.

The silence and seclusion was refreshing and calming until about a week ago. Now I sense turmoil, chaos, and tension - the air is thick with it. My dreams have always provided me with pleasant diversion during my self imposed exile, but I have had 3 disturbing dreams in the past week - not nightmares, just found myself in dangerous situations.

This tension is making me feel physically ill. So please hurry up with changing the world. I am too old to take an active part but would like to feel happiness in the air again before I die.

You're becoming overwhelmed is all.

Maslov's hierarchy of needs...

You can't deal with everything that's going on in the world, so default back to instinctual, survival mechanisms.

That means you disconnect from all the pain of the world, and become apathetic.

It happens to most sensitive individuals at some point in their lives.


Just keep it insane, and know that we're all a bit crazy.

Be good to yourself, and try to make some positive changes in your lifestyle to cope with all the pain, a deep part of you obviously feels.


Oh ya, thought this might help just a tad. This is a guy that definitely knew how to keep it insane, and he seems to have turned out all right

I more than anything have become restless to what may happen next.

I have my bouts of apathy but, I more than anything, am optimistic about my future. I have a friend who follows the same path as I and I can see in him a great apathy. An apathy so strong that it seems as if he doesn't care about anything around him.

Maybe he is ascending, I have no idea.

I do know that we are all changing and maybe apathy is what some people need right now.

Me too.

It's getting to the point where it's hard to find any new data on the web.

For instance, Project Camelot hasn't added any videos in many weeks.

I still run across something I missed earlier now and then. Like the Zeitgeist videos. But they were so disappointing! Bashing religion like that! What are they trying to prove?

Of course, I have my own church and its work. But that only gives general answers about what's going on, not specific answers. And volunteering doesn't pay the bills. My latest big find is Sheldan Nidle's updates. And he's been doing that since 2006 with me somehow missing them until now. Of course, the guys who "know the story" think Sheldan's making it all up. So that's a bummer. Are we ever going to get some data that we can tell isn't made up? I mean. I could be making this up, but what would be the point of that? I'd rather believe Sheldan. Makes life more interesting as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, when it gets like that, you just have to decide to do something. It'll probably be a bit of a slog, but it's better than just wallowing in boredom.

reply to post by CordDragonzord

You make a small but valuable point. For some, apathy is up.

For example: Say someone is going though life with everything more or less on automatic. Their immediate social environment has somehow been propping them up, but in truth their awareness level is very low. If they really had to think and act for themselves on a regular basis they'd probably hit overwhelm and go catatonic or something.

For someone like that, realizing that they are actually extremely apathetic would be a step up, a step towards the truth of their situation. So, yes: maybe some people need apathy.

I wouldn't choose it as a place to live, though. Just below it lies death, and you have to go UP just to become aware of being afraid!

reply to post by l_e_cox


Yeah, I pretty much have cast off away from social groups so I've had to deal with things by myself for a while. After the apathy and depressive states I began to get more and more involved with my own life.

I've felt this way ever since I tore my ACL back in 2008. That time in my life allowed me to slow down and live in the moment. I have since then realized what kinda world we live in. Ever since then I haven't felt like I use to.