Do you ever get the feeling that...

Our history is just wrong and that we were steered off course into this bleak and dark thread of history?
Don't you get the feeling that ancient events are so fabulous and epic that they almost seem incredible or that sometime between 800BC and 200 AD something went wrong and led us where we are now?


Every time i read something about our ancestors from ancient Greece or Egypt or Rome or Babylon or Sumer i get that feeling that they were so advanced that if we were to continue on that path of history we would now be like the civilisations we see in video games or movies.

So what do you think?

All th truth of our ancestors is all written in stone.
Egyptians, sumarians, aztecs etc. Its all there.
#uck a history book, most true, but missing the key parts of history.

reply to post by AOA2012


Besides the bible and a few other choice artifacts, fragmented tablets and inscriptions on walls are far from a complete record of our ancient history. I'm not certain if I agree that something went wrong as it were, but I do get the feeling that we don't have anywhere near a complete enough picture of said history to be asserting that what we now know is 100% correct.

reply to post by AlexIR


Somewhere along the lines we started stagnating, just trying to keep the status quo. Where are the great monuments of our civilization? Office buildings and bank headquarters.

I can't say where we should be, but I do feel we've slipped off the path and are in some ways trying to avoid our own evolution. Why do we work? Money, why do we need money? Because somewhere along the lines we decided just living and being isn't enough and we need some way to separate the elite from the fodder. So now we toil.

Children spend 12 years being indoctrinated, then another 4 or more, to get out, slaves to debt, working forever to try to repay it and stay a float.

As a musician I have noticed in my life the times when I head the least is when my music, and art, took off. Unemployed, stranded in a far away town with no money, electricity, not even a phone, just a guitar. I wrote some of the best stuff of my life during those periods.

Which leads me to question just were I would be, and what type of person, if this crushing debt and monetary system wasn't thrust upon me.

How many geniuses failed to realize their ability because they are too busy working 9 to 5 and sleeping or watching TV the rest of the time?

I think you can blame the church during the dark ages. Nothing humanity needed more than burning anything that was related to Christ... That's when humans forgot that the earth revolved around the sun (ancient greeks knew this)

reply to post by SpreadLoveNotHate


You make a good point, there's nothing a few crusades can't demolish, eradicate, or burn.

reply to post by AlexIR


I agree 100%. I'm inclined to believe the theory that way back in our history we were visited by aliens, and this visitation has been molded into modern religion. The idea of beings "coming from the heavens" seems very likely to be aliens. At the time they probably would have just assumed they were "gods." I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of what you hear in greek mythology is based on interactions with ETs. All of the super powers that these "gods" had (e.g. Zeus's lightning bolt or the chariot of fire) could have been sophisticated weapons or ships that our ancestors tried to make sense of. So rather than an alien space ship with flame boosters, it was a "chariot of fire." They tried to relate the things that they saw to things that they knew. It could also explain all of the advanced knowledge that ancient cultures had about the universe. It could even explain all of the superhuman efforts it would have taken to build some of the giant pyramids and ruins we see today. Am I the only one that feels this theory makes too much sense to not be taken seriously?

I believe that there are many things that our "beloved" Gov. has either failed to tell us or are just straight up keeping hidden from us, some say the truth hurts, America has a lot of dark secrets that we can't afford to expose, for example Sept 11. Al Quida, days before the incident, destroyed thousands of poppy fields, afghanistan and iraq are number one poppy harvest countries, our government hear about them burning the fields and supposedly on Sept 9th president Bush had documents for the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq on his desk, two days later BOOM!, now there is a reason to wage war..coincidence?

I feel that if the people are aware of all the "political secrets" there are, we would have no respect for the Gov. and they fear that they will lose what control they have.

reply to post by EL1A5


They shouldn't have any control whatsoever because the Gov. works for us the people... well in theory atleast ...

reply to post by AlexIR


The way the government is supposed to work according to the constitution and the way they actually work are very different.

reply to post by seberhar


I love researching ancient mythology and I often wonder if thats case. It makes sence to me because i believe that most mythology is just exaggerated history. Why should we assume that is is all bs? We were not there so we dont know!

Isnt there a few hundred years of missing history?
apparently when we changed from the Gregorian calendar, they missed out a few hundred years of history and supposedly there is no archaeological evidence. Supposely we are living in the 17th or 18th century? Im not sure though?
heres a link, Its called the "Phantom time hypothesis"
Phantom Time Hypothesis

reply to post by Corrupted Data


interesting, that hypothesis, so maybe there is more that meets the eye when it comes to our history, someone at sometime altered our history to "hide" something, if so, what were they hiding and why did they feel the need to hide it?

reply to post by EL1A5


My hypothesis is that they are hiding something that would destabilize religion, by throwing accepted beliefs into question. If there was some sort of irrevocably true historical proof that the big three (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism respectfully) were intrinsically flawed, then I believe that a SHTF scenario would be unavoidable. Maybe they are hiding something along these lines.

Here's a favorite quote of mine: "Events turn into stories, stories turn into legends and legends into myths", so yeah mythology might very well be just exagerated history or facts explained with that day's vocabulary.

And about someone hiding some years. What do you think could they be hiding inside the Vatican Archives? ... Do you think that the lost years could be recorded on some stone hiden away in the Vatican?

On the great big picture it seems there are far too many incredible historical sights all around the globe that modern man cannot explain or theorize into a neat compartment. We've all see many documentaries of lost civilizations, incredible feats of architecture and engineering, and places where stones are placed in grand and confusing patterns. Seems like mankind (or a derivative thereof) has come and gone many times over the years.

Or, maybe then as now, those in power who hold the wealth and the knowledge made certain to have underground accommodations available for their use when TSHTF.

Unknowns from elsewhere may be the answer to The Missing Link. We learned to hit golf balls on another planet, someone may have too.

On the not so great big picture, more recent history, it seems like the sad yet true sayings of "only the strong survive" and "to the victor go the spoils" has been the deciding factor of mankinds fate.

Think about it: when people primarily lived of the land in a self-sustaining effort they worked hard and worked together for the benefit of all. Family that stuck together in clans had a better chance of survival in case of attack by a wild animal.

IMHO it was not until mankind was exposed to unacceptable behavior, perhaps even mental illness, that provided the impetus of our destruction. Those that were willing and able to injure or kill with little provocation, with no empathy, sympathy, remorse or regret were feared by others. Match up that fellow threat/reality of danger with another impaired mind, one who feels he is above others for example, and if hes clever enough to find something the murderous maniac likes and you have the worlds first Power Couple.

The clever fellow knows it sucks to work planting in the fields so he & the maniac disrupt the peace of some local clans, causing mayhem and disruption, setting fire to their shelters, making slaves of the surviving men and raping the women who later bear them little maniacs. The strong survive. To the victor go the spoils.

It doesn't take too long and it evolves into history as we know it, simplified. Thugs, murderers and villainous types lording over people who were once free to work the fields next to their brothers, sisters and uncles. they are under the whip, under the tax and pushing the plow.

And the s.o.b.'s with twisted minds and questionable values rein over mankind year after year. Their greed, lust and delusional superiority just continues while their holdings grow vast and mighty. Trusting no one they choose to inter-marry and breed amongst themselves, thinking this an acceptable way to ensure their family line maintains the iron fist.

Over time, you are left with the absolute worst people of the world all the way at the top, in charge, owning everything. Along the way they gathered land, slaves, armies, trinkets of the world - and knowledge. I'm confident that if someone in The Kings Court heard about a child in the village who exhibited a clever skill or talent they would be whisked away. Those in power were the only folks who could sponsor artisans, philosophers, those with talent and minds that were gifted. Those in power had the knowledge and only let out what they wanted others to know.

The wealth/power quickly learned how to manipulate ( politics ) to further gain what they wanted. The organized religions of the world have been a great success for the deranged at the top. And here we are, in a world where war is constantly waged and even people 'of religion' hurt and kill each other.

All the wrong people are in charge. Look at what they have done.

reply to post by LargeFries


Spot on..... spot .... on ...

I say we need to change our current ways in order for our species to survive and our grandchildren to have history to study and know about ...

I can definitely believe that there are many, many things we don't know about our past and may never truly know. Whether or not the information was destroyed on purpose or accident and whether it was by random individuals or some great powerful group... can't say. But there are definitely mysteries out there from our planets history.

It really is a fun subject to think about though, some of which have been mentioned here. The aliens/ETs involved with the Egyptians and the Vatican hiding things are my favorites to just close my eyes and imagine so many different things. Maybe one day we'll truly know.

All these civilisations are hemoginising into one global super-tribe.
It is destiny that mankind will become one, only one government, one language, one population.
In a hundred years time there will be only one.

reply to post by HeresHowItGoes


First of all we need to set our priorities straight ..

Then we can become one.