Extreme Super Moon & Current Rise in sun Activity: Effects on earth

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Your welcome

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It's from the beeb and always came on when the channel went off air for the night. I want to say ' test chart'?
The strange little girl with her clown...

What's my prize?

I told a lot of my family and friends at dinner time yesterday to expect a really bad Tsunami and Earthquake between right now Thursday 10th March 2011 until 17th March 2011.

I woke up this morning with my family members pushing me to wake me up, to tell me that it happened. My cell phone had text messages from my mates saying "You were right mate".

One of the first thoughts that went though my mind was:

I should have placed a bet at
the bookies yesterday!!!!
I would be a multi-millionaire now!!!!

reply to post by the_denv


I told my family In Los Angeles the same thing, but its not over yet a volcano erupted and hour after the quake and japan is still shaking over 10 5+ mag quakes just in the last hour and they have been shaking for days...


quake watch thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
volcano watch thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

weather its the moon, or not the ring of fire has been active everywhere except for Los Angeles stay prepared people.

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Its completely absurd man. We all knew at ATS that this was going to happen and people have been telling everyone and trying to warn the authorities about a possible risk. They do not believe us, they do not even consider the possibility of the Moon causing a Tsunami or and Earthquake or something of that magnitude.

Its completely ABSURD


EDIT: Now we know why FEMA bought all that food with only 6 months of shelf life.

Originally posted by shadowland8
I can see it having an effect.

It won't be the end of the world, but I'm sure there'll be some disturbances, earth quakes, volcanoes etc.

edit on 11-3-2011 by shadowland8 because: (no reason given)

How about "Yellow stone" erupted: there will be nuclear winter for yrssssss as the prophecy below stated:

" And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the whole moon became as blood..."

Or may be we shld not have faith in lord jesus christ till to the end of lifespans ash to ash , dust to dust as we are.

Cross my finger...

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Close but not quite

It has been seen on the Beeb though.

So, this is potentially important:

I don't know who's noticed my earlier post with the plot of the two clusters of quakes off Oregon and Japan, from a couple days ago, in relation to the lunar cycle (moon rise, meridian, and moon set), but I've just got done adding this massive event to the plot, and I'm noticing something interesting. I can post the actual chart, if anyone wants, but what I'm seeing is this:

- on March 6, the first cluster of 4 earthquakes off the coast of Oregon began with a 4.9 when the moon was directly overhead

- on March 7, the second cluster of 3 earthquakes off the coast of Oregon began with a 5.0 within an hour of when the moon was directly overhead

- on March 8, the Oregon area was quiet, but the first cluster of almost 2 dozen earthquakes off Japan began with a 7.2 when the moon was approaching the mid-point of the Pacific plate (just a couple hours before the moon was directly overhead)

- on March 9, there was no significant activity, but a cluster of 16 quakes (aftershocks of the 7,2) seem to be suspiciously grouped within the timeframe when the moon is directly above the Pacific plate, and they are noticeably separate from the previous cluster of aftershocks which immediately followed the 7.2

- on March 10-11, the 8.9 occurred within a couple hours of the moon being directly overhead, and well within the time when the moon was directly over the Paciffic plate; this earthquake has since spawned over 80 aftershocks between 4.9 and 7.1 (with the bulk being less than 6.5), but there has been a steady drop in average magnitude following the lunar meridian, suspiciously coinciding with the setting of the moon over Japan

And, over the 5 groupings, there is an unmistakable upward trend in the average magnitude. I actually randomly showed the plot to my mother when she got up this morning and asked her, "What do you see?", and she said, "They're going up." I have to say, I agree with her.

I'm not quite sure what to make of this yet, but the pattern that's staring back at me from this plot is intriguing. We'll have to see if it continues, though, before I feel comfortable saying there's a legitimate correlation between these earthquakes and the lunar cycle.

reply to post by CLPrime


Thanks for the great research.

I havent recorded it but I have noticed exactly what you have concluded with your research and post,
by watching quakes/volcanoes as they happen and checking the lunar and solar activity that coincides.

thank you again! your research makes me feel Like I am not just seeing what I want to see.

Here is some more information I have gathered

2011 March 19th Lunar Perigee- Moon is 356 577 km from Earth
2011 March 11- 8.9 Eathquake, Japan

1993 March 8th Lunar Perigee- Moon is 356 529 km from Earth
1993 March 13th-15th- The Great Blizzard of 1993
1993 June 20th- 7.3 Earthquake, Japan

1811 Sept 2nd Lunar Perigee- Moon is 356 963 km from Earth
1811 Dec 16th- 8.1 Earthquake New Madrid

This thread should be huge now!

There needs to be some serious scientific investigations to super moons, because this is more than just a coincidence. If its not entirely the moon, i think its likely a combination of events including super moons we do not understand that effects us, because something is happening right now, and im glad to live in such interesting times, until it effects me :O

Will it only get worse? I expect more earthquakes in the days to come

Originally posted by Quasar_La-Zar
This thread should be huge now!

Yes, yes it should.

Originally posted by ledzeppelin489
Will it only get worse? I expect more earthquakes in the days to come

So do I. And I will be plotting them and seeing if they fit the lunar cycle. If they do, I'll be ready to say there's quite possibly a correlation...in which case, the 19th could certainly be interesting.

But, I want to stress that the pattern is tenuous at best at the moment. There's really not enough data to conclude one way or another. All we have is a 6-day trend for two earthquake clusters, not a comprehensive pattern beyond the scope of statistical probability.

So, for the record, here's what I've plotted so far. This includes all quakes of the Oregon and Japan clusters up to 19:45 UTC.




There are problems with the supermoon theory, though. For instance, why does this relatively small decrease in distance lead to such a marked increase in seismic activity? Also, my plot only takes the Oregon and Japan clusters into account - which, though I did this because they seemed out of place compared to other quakes, may add a significant bias. And, the pattern, itself, is debatable. How can we scientifically determine a pattern without any bias? How does this take other factors (both known and unknown) into account, which may be responsible, in whole or in part, for this seismic activity? How can we know this seismic activity is, in fact, a deviation from what naturally occurs?
I just want to make that absolutely clear: it's all subjective.

Originally posted by amcdermott20

Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
If the "SuperMoon" were such a huge effect, then there would be more of a correlation between earthquakes and weather disasters and the "perihelion" of the moon. Even a month or two "following" -- if it were caused by the moon, you would see a statistically significant relationship.

Thanks for adding a voice of reason to this thread, my only problem with your quote is the word perihelion. I believe you meant perigee, as we're talking about the time when the distance between the earth and moon are closest, not earth and sun. But starred nonetheless.

en.wikipedia.org...

Yes, you are correct -- I mean't Perigee. Just not a lot of situations where one would use these words in a sentence outside of talking of orbits and spacecraft.

Can someone get a list of all the times we've had a Supermoon (not just extreme super moons but just a normal super moon, last one AFAIK was in 2005) and get details of what happened on those days?

Just wanted to update that the moon is heading overhead central US on its way to the West coast as of 06:00PM EST. I have a feeling that if we see anymore large activity its going to happen as postulated on this thread. I found a site to show the position (sort of) of the moon over the Earth. If there are any better, please do share.

I'll be watching it head back over the Pacific Rim (hopefully not having any effect on New Madrid or Yellowstone).

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thats a great link!

great work CLPrime

dont discount the sun's activity lately either, I think i remember reading it takes about 3 days for flares & CME to reach earth.

this shows the last 3 days of suns activity it is a good show!

stereo.ssl.berkeley.edu...

Originally posted by CLPrime
So, for the record, here's what I've plotted so far. This includes all quakes of the Oregon and Japan clusters up to 19:45 UTC.

There are problems with the supermoon theory, though. For instance, why does this relatively small decrease in distance lead to such a marked increase in seismic activity? Also, my plot only takes the Oregon and Japan clusters into account - which, though I did this because they seemed out of place compared to other quakes, may add a significant bias. And, the pattern, itself, is debatable. How can we scientifically determine a pattern without any bias? How does this take other factors (both known and unknown) into account, which may be responsible, in whole or in part, for this seismic activity? How can we know this seismic activity is, in fact, a deviation from what naturally occurs?
I just want to make that absolutely clear: it's all subjective.

I don't know what that recurring oscillation at the bottom of your chart is -- High tides, maybe?

The question in, with regard to Oregon and Japan -- there is alway a High Tide somewhere in the world. And perhaps the most like "stress reliever" of a fault line might be perpendicular to the moon's gravity.

Also, when as a kid I first learned that the "high tide" is on two sides of the planet; facing the moon and exactly opposite the moon -- that's when I had a sudden "aha" moment. A question about gravity. I tried modeling in my head the "standard" theories for gravity -- and they didn't fit the idea of two tides. REALLY, with the standard model, it would make sense to only have one high tide pointed towards the moon (with the concept of Gravity as a force in itself.

Perhaps gravity is NOT the main factor in high tides and low tides -- it might have something to do with the bi-polar and semi-magnetic nature of water itself, which is a molecule with unusual properties (like, it contracts slightly as it becomes ice, and that it can get lighter as a solid than a liquid). The water itself might expand as a gross volume, or perhaps it contracts with the force of the moon at a right angle.

>> But I figure, the BEST explanation, is that Gravity is a byproduct of one force; space/time coming from the particles themselves. Massless things, do NOT add or subtract space/time -- which means it is possible to have massless matter, but ONLY if the space/time fluctuations are balanced internally. So, if gravity is a net effect of some "propulsive" force of the particle, the particles APPEAR to be attracted to one another because they are pushing on space itself -- and usually where a particle is not (as this reduces pressure and conserves energy). The strong, weak and gravity forces are merely geometric "positions" of the same force -- as well as electromagnetic merely being a "ripple" along space of contraction in the particle's field.

Any-who: my point is that GRAVITY WAVES, are never going to be "discovered" because it's really Space/Time fluctuating -- and whether it's stretched or not, the "space" particles occupy is always going to be RELATIVE to the energy and mass therein. "Stretched" space, has light that moves relatively faster -- so that it APPEARS to move at the same speed -- so any MEASUREMENT of the curvature of space, shows the same distance but can show that light is bending because space itself is "curved". The MOON, is merely a source of "pressure" on the particles that make up the earth -- and so the reaction to the gravity of the moon is much more dispersed over time -- meaning, objects don't TRACK the moon like we see with magnetic fields. The GRAVITY of the moon is felt as merely a net pressure on ALL particles of the planet -- and only the very LARGEST objects, like the earth itself and maybe the oceans and large lakes, are effected. YOU cannot feel the moon pass, because a car has more "pressure" on your space/time due to the inverse Square rule.

The idea of a molecular/electromagnetic compression/expansion due to the Magnetic FIELD of the earth being manipulated by water -- and perhaps we only get the high and low tides due to a strange circumstance of water's di-pole nature -- WELL, proof of that is going to require finding a water covered planet without a strong magnetic filed AND a large moon that shows NO TIDE.

>> OK, where is this going? Because GRAVITY is not the FORCE that current science imagines it is; the Moon does not trigger earthquakes. Our intuition, reasons that it WOULD - because we think of it like a "weak magnetic field that works on all matter." Actually, magnetism is when the flow of space/time is "organized" and it "spins" the expression of space as objects Project it outward. All particles that produce gravity have poles -- when an aggregate are organized -- you get magnetism -- BUT NO CHANGE IN GRAVITY.

Off topic - this means that gravity is about a million times more powerful than traditional models -- and that magnetism is merely what you get when SOME of that force is organized rather than diffused to non-mass particles. The ultimate STRENGTH of gravity is expressed in the STRONG nuclear force that bonds protons and neutrons together. The ENTIRE planet, sits on top of atoms in the core of our earth -- yet they feel pressure and do not collapse. The gravity is not cumulative, but a particle in the center of the planet, is going to "stabilize" it's pressure in space/time -- the strong force increases as the gravity pressure increases -- like when equilibrium is achieved in deep sea dives; a thousand atmospheres of pressure do not crush fish, because they have the same pressure INSIDE as out. That gives another clue that Gravity itself is NOT a force -- there is a medium that permeates inside the particles and "empty space" and distributes the pressure.

High pressure and high gravity, do not change molecular interactions too much. Nor would changes and fluctuations in gravity...

... it would be VERY interesting to test "how permeable" molecules are changes in "gravity" -- just as there is a certain rate that pressure changes can occur in deep sea dives.

[Back on topic/ mind wandering over]

>> As I've said in earlier Blogs, the LIKELY reason for our increased volcanic activity is because of GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE. The huge amounts of ice being melted off of Greenland and the Poles and Glaciers around the world, is going to "uncork" areas of the earth that have been compressed by tons of ice. ONE of the many "unintended consequences" of our changing of the planet.

www.astropro.com...

For those of us that include astrology in the mix of the moon's influence on the earth, the above link might be of interest.
Someone asked for a chart of Super Moons and I'll go back to this site to find it. BTW, this astrologer claims to have coined the term "Super Moon". Jus sayin......