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The Elite Have A New and Very Devastating Weapon

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posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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reply to post by AprilSky
 


OK, firstly I find this whole thread pretty hilarious due to the lack of evidence backing up the claims.

However, I would like to clarify something about 2 waves colliding. They can cancel each other out, or they can actually gain amplitude depending on their phase.

Check here:
emergent-culture.com...

This diagram shows what happens when waves are in and out of phase/synch:
emergent-culture.com...


edit on 9-3-2011 by SecretSky because: added direct link to diagram



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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Actually when two waves do the cancellation effect they let off a third very sharp stress wave ... at least with magnetics and certain other things... I can't say anything about tectonics or etc because quite frankly I do not know but I will say that cancellation type waves and harnessing of said stress wave is a field of research of many in the search for energy innovations.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by AprilSky
reply to post by amarenell
 


Oh I forgot to say many of the quakes start out with what sounds like a bomb going off underground in the distance, not uncommon at all, not sure about in the sky though. We have had 6000 plus quakes here now.



I heard a huge sonic boom today, but it was the shuttle landing



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by AprilSky
reply to post by Aggie Man
 


Really so when you clap your hands together, one hand meeting the other with equal force ... nothing happens?

Go back to school ....


First off, the person who you quoted, Aggie Man, is probably a graduate or current student of higher education, being as how the term 'Aggie' is another term for people who attend Texas A&M University in College Station, TX. As for me, I am at the University of Texas in Austin, TX, so yeah, I'm going to back him up.

Secondly, your analogy is an aweful comparison of two seperate types of physics. You seem to be ignorant...meaning you are simply uneducated in this matter. That matter being physics and geology together as one in your ridiculous proposal.

Two clapping hands, is simply mass and inertia, where ones own two hands are thrust towards one another resulting in the cancellation of motion/inertia resulting in the sound of the 'clap'. The sound of the 'clap' is simply the two objects contacting one another at speed.

As for the physics behind an earthquake and your proposal that your single radar scan shows "two earthquakes" is a misinterpretation of data. The physics behind two equal and opposite waves passing through one another supprorts AggieMans claim of cancellation. 100% correct. The 'two earthquakes / radar scan" is NOT what you think you see. It is actually a single earthquakes epicenter, radiating out through softer rock. Where the two bend and you THINK you see two quakes intersecting, you are actually seeing what is called a protrusion, of older, harder rock into softer, newer rock/sediment in which the forces/waves created by the [single] earthquake follow the path of least resistance, much like water. The waves, curve around the harder rock and pass quickly through the softer, surrounding rock affecting either side equally, but having less of an effect upon the harder older rock intrusion itself, as well as the surface above.

Please read a book or take a college level geology course before you surmise any more 'powers that be' conspiracies.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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School didn't stick to you right? ..

So i will give you something to think of:

We have 2 cars on a collision course. One is roling at 50mph and the other one at 55 mph. When they colide, what was the speed of the collision?



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by AprilSky
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No, I have heard enough of their crap.



I know by 'crap' you meant 'knowledge'.

Kid, you and the others here who have agreed with you, are ignorant beyond words. Please, I beg you, if you qualify, go to college/secondary school. LEARN before you speak, it'll save you quite a bit of embarrassment.
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posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by AprilSky
 


If you had come to the table with a patent for such a device, or some supporting documentation - such as an article from a peer reviewed journal that supported the potential of such a device, then the questions would be directed towards the evidence presented. As it stands you've tabled a theory and, as such, it is normal and good that people would want a description of the theorized mechanism and process of earthquake generation/control.

There is nothing wrong with tabling ideas in the manner done here. It is a great way to start dialogue and discussion. But one cannot be upset when that dialogue trends towards a discussion of the science involved in such ideas.

~Heff


This...



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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You are looking at the action in reverse. The two points of diminished wave are not the origins but the terminals.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by AlexIR
reply to post by Aggie Man
 


School didn't stick to you right? ..

So i will give you something to think of:

We have 2 cars on a collision course. One is roling at 50mph and the other one at 55 mph. When they colide, what was the speed of the collision?



The speed of the collision is not important. What is important is the damage sustained and that each car will sustain the same amount of damage as the other [assuming the cars are the exact same weight and shape] and will resemble a car hitting a solid object at 52.5mph. I'm assuming you are thinking that it would rather be 105mph...but you are wrong.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by trailertrash
reply to post by AprilSky
 





You are looking at the action in reverse. The two points of diminished wave are not the origins but the terminals.


Correct.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Did you think your answer first? (sorry but i have to ask this because 99% of the answers i get are stupid as hell)

Or did you use good old google?

The 52.5 mph won't happen because one car is traveling faster than the other thus it will do more damage on impact than the other. If the cars were to travel at 50 mph each the damage will be the same for each car theoreticaly because there are many variables.

And the purpose of the reply was that if the 2 cars were to be equal and crash into eachother both of them would be smashed to bits and the forces wont nulify themselves.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Just to touch on the physics of "waves"...

A wave, earthquake wise, is a non-linear ambient force. Anything which has force carries energy. Energy, when passing through matter, causes it to MOVE.

When two powerful waves collide, sure, they stop eachother to the degree of their respective forces... but at the expense of whatever matter and energy is localized at the point of interaction. For example, if I were to scream in your left ear, it would hurt. If someone were to scream in your right ear at the same time, our voices would certainly not travel unmuffled much further than your skull, but your skull is ACHING.

It's a wonderful experiment if you feel like trying it sometime.

And a wave is not stand-alone. A wave is the result of what something else does.

Therefore, anyone who says that the analogy of clapping the hands doesn't fit, fails to realize that the arms are akin to waves in that the waves of energy pass through the arms and into the hands and CLAP! Meet at that same space.

So, for earth, waves are not what something IS. Waves are what is caused by the movement of the SOLID MASSES. The energy travels through the earth like the energy travels through your arm.

So, is it possible for two people to be standing on each side of your skull and punch your face at the same time... and for someone to be picking up pieces of your face soon thereafter? Oh, yeah. I think that everyone here would agree that no one here would stand in between the Klitschkos and test the "Forces cancel eachother out" theory.

You know...here is another experiment. Run headlong into a brick wall. The wall will put as much force back into you as you put into it. ROFL. Disclaimer : don't actually do it, you will feel stupid if you live.

So... is it possible for, IF it is true that the "elite" have acquired such technology as to cause earthquakes, that they may set two earthquakes off at the same time at places on either side of their target in order that the intercepting forces causes massive devastation? Well... is it possible for two vehicles to be going at only 30 miles per hour and end up colliding with the equivalent amount of force as if a vehicle going 60 mph hits a brick wall? Does my son remind me of Stewie? When he throws fits do I secretly dream of scoring a field goal?

These are just some of the more ridiculous questions I can't believe I have to ask a thread full of people who are bashing someone based on common sense physical realities.

As far as whether the "elite" really are setting off earthquakes... evidence, yes, would be required to prove anything, but some knowledge, wisdom, and a good imagination will lead you closer to the truth than what is "officially on record."

Records are, at best, a narrow perception of the world.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Aggie Man

Originally posted by AprilSky
OMG, this is not waves in water and believe me I experienced it and there was no canceling each other out, not before the whole place went crash!


A wave is a wave, regardless of the medium. The only difference is velocity. Furthermore, while experiencing it was tragic, it does not make you an expert on the subject; rather, a victim. Nonetheless, you could use a lesson in physics yourself.
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You are correct in assuming that the medium doesn't matter, and waves are waves. What DOES matter is the phase of the waves - whether they meet trough to trough and peak to peak, or whether they meet peak to trough. In the first case, the energy is potentiated. Not only are the troughs and peaked added to each other to double their own intensity, but that intensity is itself intensified in that the motion has to travel from a higher peak (doubled) to a lower trough (also doubled), leading to far greater destructive power.

Only in the second case, peak meeting trough, is the wave action cancelled out, when the peak and trough amplitudes are equal and opposite, and added together they cancel one another out.

That's today's "lesson in physics".



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Thank God Someone Said Something About HAARP I Was Speed Reading Through Page By Page Of This And Looking For Some One Say It, And My Friend YOU HIT IT
........Look What Happened To Japan They Got Hit With Two As Well.....



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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If I'm Not Mistaken On This They Use The Ionosphere To Bounc The Ray Back To Earth. And That Is What Causes The Earthquake.....



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by AprilSky

The elite have found a way of creating two earthquakes at once, this results in two sets of waves which run into each other, the point of interception will suffer devastation of a much greater scale than the size of either quake but the devastation will be very localized. This weapon was tested recently in Christchurch New Zealand.

Most of us understand the Richter scale and think the bigger the number the greater the devastation, however this is not true in all cases, these double quakes are far more devastating and when both are extremely shallow, they do enormous damage.

Images of resulting damage ...

www.stuff.co.nz...

Radar image of quake

images.smh.com.au...

The area showing the church, the central city business district is the targeted zone, see how the waves from the above radar image meet there.

www.ccel.co.nz...

Many parts of Christchurch were almost untouched which the target zone is almost totally destroyed.

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Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.
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Proof?



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Yes. I thought and posted. No google required. I've done the experiment in labs and with all variables eliminated, two objects at the same speed smashing into each other, impact at the same rate as a single object hitting a immovable object at the same speed.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Large, devastating, earthquakes CANNOT be CAUSED by people. Period. This thread is ridiculous.
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posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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I love how actual physics comes into question, a couple knowledgeable people come in and tear the original theory to shreds, yet people still show up an say "omg Japan got a quake too so it must be HAARP"

Unless of course that was sarcasm in which case, I apologize.

Did anyone who believes that HAARP causes every earthquake in the world consider that before the array was built there were still earthquakes happening. If I remember correctly a devastating one in the 90's in Japan...

or am I being a dis-info agent again?
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posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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You're correct! Earthquakes have happened all over the world for millions of years. It's nature and it's the earth's ol' trusty pains. Thats it. Earthquakes happen on the moons of Jupiter too causing volcanic activity, but hey, thats the far reaching scope of HAARP isn't it? LOL. This thread is FULL of ignorance.




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