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Once again, you do not understand either Latin or Hebrew. The etymology of the word Satan has nothing to do with Summerian culture.
Really? Once again your ignorance in Latin is apparent. Please show me where the word 'an' appears in Modern or Classical Latin in refernce to what you said.
I assume that this is your childish way of admitting that you were incorrect. Be an adult and admit when you were wrong.
Originally posted by pepsi78
I quoted your masonic fried , you can find it there.
Latin word annus is year.
Further more it can be clear, the root name AN is applied to anything that has a time line.
"An"niversria, "an"niversary , from Latin feminine of "AN"niversrius, returning yearly
No on the contrary, I was right all along.
Latin word annus is year.
Which is exactly what I posted earlier.
How were you right when you quoted a site that contradicted you when you asserted that Catholicism teaches rapture philosophy? Do you have some sort of short term memory issue? You were very wrong and then refused to show any evidence claiming it was off topic. Stop being juvenile.
You do notice that there are two 'N's in those words? The reason is they are based on the word annus, not an.
Originally posted by pepsi78
AN means year in romanian, venetian, french, Friulian, the rest bare close resemblence so I don't know what you mean. I don't know when you are going to stop this BS.
Closest to Latin
In Romanian = AN
In Italian = Anno
In Venetian =AN
In Spanish = ANO
In French = AN
In Friulian: AN
The Indo european language is the language where later Latin originated from. Language like the Romanian with a Tracian tribes (the Dacians) already speaking a close language in proximity to Latin (a Indo Europian type of language) before mixing with the roman empire. It's why for example Romanian is closest to classical latin in verb and gramar pronunciation, because Latin it's self sprang from Indo Europian Language. It is the case for others as well.
EtymologyFrom Proto-Indo-European *hₐet-nos-, from *hₐet- (“to go”). Cognate with Gothic 𐌰𐌸𐌽 (aþn, “year”), Sanskrit अटति (aṭati, “he goes”)Source
I don't care about the catholic rapture, it's off the subject anyway, it runs deep within catholic comunity, it's where it's from, it originated or spang from the catholics, if it's officialy from the curch or just from catholic community I don't really hold interest in it.
It's obvius with you, you don't know how to lose, you should learn to.
You really need to get a grasp on history. What do these languages all have in common? The all came from Latin. Meaning, prior to Latin they did not exist. Meaning the word 'an' can not have anything to do with Satan as the Etruscans and Romans used the word 'annus' to denote the elasping of time.
en.wikipedia.org...
Dacian language — possibly very close to Thracian.
You are doing it again by talking about something you know very, very little of. Indo-European language does not us the word 'an' to denote a year. Sorry, try inventing more facts, maybe others will believe you.
EtymologyFrom Proto-Indo-European *hₐet-nos-, from *hₐet- (“to go”). Cognate with Gothic 𐌰𐌸𐌽 (aþn, “year”), Sanskrit अटति (aṭati, “he goes”)Source
Opps. Did you just do something silly again? Yup. Notice the Proto-Indo-Eurpean root has nothing to do with the word 'an'.
I eagerly await your next post of nonesensical and fabricated factoids.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Dacian language — possibly very close to Thracian.
There were many Indo Europian languages, some of them even went extinct, to classify everything into the "proto Indo european root language" is silly.
Your idea of "proto indo european" is just one language.
I'm not fabricating anything, the word annus should be enough to show that the begining of the word starts with "An"nus.
en.wiktionary.org...
Even the pronunciation in latin is AN dot nus.
/ˈan.nus/
Origin:
1535–45; < Latin stupidus = stup(ēre) to be numb or stunned + -idus -id4
IT is you that are trying to prove the unprovable. Anyone can see beyond this except who does not want to see.
Originally posted by pepsi78
We have deviated so much of course, we were to debate Satan=Saturn, I have provided the evidence.
Because you had nothing to contra attack me with you instead attacked me on the word "AN" as a last line introduction to hype your view higher.
In Babylon he was called Ninib and was an agricultural deity. Saturn, called Cronus by the Greeks, was, at the dawn of the Ages of the Gods, the Protector and Sower of the Seed and his wife, Ops, (called Rhea by the Greeks) was a Harvest Helper. Saturn was one of the Seven Titans or Numina and with them, reigned supreme in the Universe. The Titans were of incredible size and strength and held power for untold ages, until they were deposed by Jupiter.
In Hindu mythology and Astrology Saturn is called Shani. Shani is embodied in the planet Saturn. Shani is the Lord of Saturday; the word "Shani" also denotes the seventh day or Saturday in most Indian languages. Shani is a Deva and son of Surya (the Hindu Sun God) and his wife Chhaya (Shadow goddess) and hence also known as Chayyaputra. He is the elder brother of Yama, the Hindu God of death, who in some scriptures corresponds to the deliverance of justice. Interestingly, Surya's two sons Shani and Yama judge. Shani gives us the results of one's deeds through one's life through appropriate punishments and rewards; Yama grants the results of one's deeds after death. source
I find it that you have failed even here.
SAT-AN. 666 Understanding Saturn is a depiction of Satan. You quote me on "what you can" and leave the rest aside, you can't quote me on everything, so you pick out things you think you have a "chance at" what a pity.
And? Dacian and Thracian have no know word 'an' or one that corresponds to the Latin word 'annus'.
en.wikipedia.org...
The Dacian language is poorly documented. Unlike ancient Thracian, or Phrygian, only one Dacian inscription is known to have survived.[7][8] In ancient literary sources, the Dacian names for a number of medicinal plants and herbs survive in ancient texts[9][10] that includes about 60 plants names with Dioscorides.[11] Dacian language is also known through about 1,150 proper names[8][12]), about 900 toponyms.[8] Finally, there are few hundreds words in modern Albanian and Romanian languages, which were often suggested to originate in ancient languages like Dacian (see List of Romanian words of possible Dacian origin).
Then maybe you should take up your issue with etymologist as they are the ones who classified them as Proto-Indo-European. I only happen to be the one pointing this out to your misguided-self.
www.dacia.org...
What language, or dialect did Geta-Dacians (namely Pelasgians, or Thracians) actually speak? And there can be no more than two answers, between which we can choose only one: either they had been using a totally different language than their future-to-be conquerors and were compelled, as a result, in learning some Latin after around 14% of old Dacian territory being conquered by the Emperor Trajan's Legions, in 106 A.D., or... the Dacian population's very native language had already proved so similar to Latin that any need to learn something "different" was unnecessary.
en.wikipedia.org...
At this moment in the internet could be found a lot of study about the fact that the tracian language and especial the dacian language was close to latin.
So do the words antagonize and anterior.
What is your point? The root word for 'annus' is not 'an'. It continues to amaze me that you still argue with people who studied Latin and have pointed this out to you again and again.
Satan was not a being the Romans believed in, the had numerous mythological figures in their pantheon but he was not one of them. Neither was he equated with Saturn in other cultures who shared a simliar mythological being as Saturn.
www.roman-colosseum.info...
Jurisdiction: He was described as being the Roman God of Harvest and Agriculture
Mythology: Mythical Family Tree or Relatives: Saturn was believed to be the God of Time, Harvest and Agriculture.
www.wordsources.info...
Harvest time in ancient Italy belonged to the god of reaping, whom the Romans called Saturn. A symbol curved like his sickle represents the planet.
No, my language inventing friend, I quote you on what is provable, recognizable and historical fact.
Originally posted by YourPopRock
reply to post by pepsi78
Just a quick question....
How tough would it be for you to get back on topic and stop spamming the thread with your borderline attempts at Latin?
www.thetipsbank.com...
anno (an.) - year
www.yuni.com...
Anno (an.) - Year
Originally posted by pepsi78
Most of the Dacian language has been lost, only a small portion of it survived.
Hardly, this proves my point.
Dacian Indo Europian Language
www.dacia.org...
What language, or dialect did Geta-Dacians (namely Pelasgians, or Thracians) actually speak? And there can be no more than two answers, between which we can choose only one: either they had been using a totally different language than their future-to-be conquerors and were compelled, as a result, in learning some Latin after around 14% of old Dacian territory being conquered by the Emperor Trajan's Legions, in 106 A.D., or... the Dacian population's very native language had already proved so similar to Latin that any need to learn something "different" was unnecessary.
Why does this article keep changing......without at all apparently getting better?
I think it's gotten better (NPOV, bit more exact), but I don't think it has gotten good.
...but I'm waiting to find more real references so I can review what led to their conclusions.
Up to date With just a few word it is not posible i supose for anybody to tell us what kind of language was dacian
At this moment in the internet could be found a lot of study about the fact that the tracian language and especial the dacian language was close to latin.
Yes anterior, has to do with time, it's translated, "into before" "previously"
translate.google.com...|en|anterior
Origin of ANTE-
Middle English, from Latin, from ante before, in front of; akin to Old English and- against, Greek anti before, against
The root word derives from AN, it's obvius.
Proof.
Romanian AN=YEAR.
I'm sorry you are wrong, the Romans got Saturn from the Greeks, the Greeks got it from the middle east, it's the same character. Same gods past on to civilisations in time.
Ohh boy good luck debunking this.
I'm not inventing anything.
Originally posted by pepsi78
Found something for you and Augustus boy.
www.thetipsbank.com...
anno (an.) - year
www.yuni.com...
Anno (an.) - Year
Oh man, you did it again! Your first source is a pure opinion piece from an anonymous author who does not site any known references. Nice try.
www.wisegeek.com...
The word anterior is a derivative of the word ante, which means “before.”
Do me a favor. Plug the word 'an' into a Latin translator and tell me what comes up? I am still waiting for you to cite a source that shows that 'an' is the root word for 'annus'.
Well then, please link something that shows how the Hebrews confused Satan (The Advesary) with the Roman god Saturn (God of the harvest), or viceversa.
Oh man, you are hysterical. Please, please, please stop and read things before you post them. Notice the . (period) after the letters 'a' and 'n'?
en.wikipedia.org...
Acronyms and initialisms are abbreviations formed from the initial components in a phrase or name
en.wikipedia.org...
A contraction of a word is made by omitting certain letters or syllables and bringing together the first and last letters or elements
In strict analysis, abbreviations should not be confused with contractions or acronyms
Originally posted by pepsi78
No it's a fact that Indo Europian langueges were close to latin because that is where Latin came from.
It is exactly what I have said.
The word Annus it's self starts with AN, this should be enough to demonstrate the connection.
As I told you Latin came from the indo european langueges "not regarding the "PROTO INDO EUROPEAN ROOT" but the langueges.
I did you will find it in my posts, they include regarding the Kabalah, deities and so on.
But just for you maybe I will do it once again.
It is clear that you have not red the posts.
Ohhh so the short meaning of annus is AN, well what a coincidence.
On second note..
What an abravation is ...contraction of a word is made by omitting certain letters or syllables and bringing together the first and last letters or elements, so it is not an abravation, so I would argue.
You may be refering to a synonym or to a acronym(another trype of abbravation) in case of this initial components in a phrase or name for example .O.K =OKAY in this case OK is the initial component, the root.
In case that the root word is AN then it is an abravation since it's the begining and the end of the word.
Genius, Proto-Indo-European and Indo-European are partically the same thing in reference to etymology.
of several hundred related languages and dialects,[4] including most major languages of Europe, the Iranian plateau, and South Asia
en.wikipedia.org...
As there is no direct evidence of Proto-Indo-European language, all knowledge of the language is derived by reconstruction from later languages using linguistic techniques such as the comparative method and the method of internal reconstruction. Relationships to other language families, including the Uralic languages, have been proposed though all such suggestions remain controversial.
You would have understood this if you read the links I provided. It does not matter that it starts with 'an'. The root language of the Indo-Eurpoan's does not have 'an' as a temporal reference. If they did you would have had a link by now. Stop stone walling and produce it if it exists.
I have indeed read your Hebrew (and other language) -butchering posts and the only thing that is crystal clear as an azure sky is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Link a source that shows that Saturn and Satan are the same diety or where that was infered historically.
The abbreviation of Mister is Mr. is that now a word too? Get a grip dude. Abbreviations of words are not
indicators of the roots words of the sylabelles used to construct them.
A contraction of a word is made by omitting certain letters or syllables and bringing together the first and last letters or elements
Here is your chance to be an adult and say, "I know what you meant and I tried to put one over on you and got caught.....again."
Originally posted by pepsi78
What languege are you refering to ? the Proto IE root ? Or the indo european languages.
I will take the time to construct my post on this once again but tomorrow as it is very late.
Yes except Mister is MR "first and last words" AN from annus is not first and last is it ?
Mister MR first and last
Annus "AS" is in this case what you want to sustain.
An abbreviation.
A contraction of a word is made by omitting certain letters or syllables and bringing together the first and last letters or elements
It is more then a shortening, you just don't want to admit it
An abbreviation (from Latin brevis, meaning short) is a shortened form of a word or phrase. Usually, but not always, it consists of a letter or group of letters taken from the word or phrase. For example, the word abbreviation can itself be represented by the abbreviation abbr., abbrv. or abbrev. (