A spy in your computer? Here is what to do about it

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
reply to post by spikey

 

O-KAY!

Here we go, I am giving up here now.

I looked in my drafts list and saw my draft was answered.

Then my clock was right etc - why can't anyone get this?

You seem to think I am so stupid.

I give up.

Pardon me?

Why do you think i'm thinking you're stupid?! I don't think anything of the kind, i assure you.

I rarely judge people as being stupid, especially if all i have to base this assumption of stupidity is only a couple of posts, containing a few lines of text...not much to go on you see.

Add to that, that i consider it very rude to call people stupid anyway.

I'm (i was at least) genuinely trying to help you get to the bottom of your problem, by offering suggestions as to what may be occurring in your system.

This is *NOT* to say, that i believe or believed you are/were mistaken, or are reading too much into the problem, but rather i was attempting to go through a logical process of elimination, to try to identify any other possible process that may have had the result of setting the read flag on the draft email, to 'read'.

I prefer to opt to look for more prosaic explanations to computer problems, since the every day stuff is usually to blame for operating or functioning problems, before checking out the more sinister explanations that may be responsible for what is happening.

I was simply offering possible reasons for your problem, other than the sinister reason for it that you fear is happening. (this is *NOT* to say you are incorrect in your theory, but to validate it, other alternative causes *must* be eliminated first, otherwise you run the risk of simply accepting one possibly incorrect cause without properly examining other potential causes.

But hey...i was offering you help, if you want to get on your high horse about it - you're on your own.

Good luck.

reply to post by spikey


Spikey,

I really appreciate your help.

I am not on my high horse - I am on my low horse.

It is just that no-one believes what I have seen to be true and I am getting a bit down about it - especially when people ask me if I have replied myself.

So thank you very much.

reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone


Okay. I just read all of this, and I have a question. When you say "replied to", what do you mean? Did they actually leave you a message in return? Or did the time adjustment, along with the read status of the UNsent email draft, tip you off to them having read it?

Just asking for clarification.

TheBorg
Forum Member and Moderator

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
Mods,

I was unsure where to post this - but trolls and spies are both creeps, so here goes.

I have known for some time that someone was getting into my computer and checking out all my moves. What alerted me was that my clock was always an hour slow when I logged on.

So last night I typed a message in drafts - not sent, remember, just a draft - and wow it was received!

My draft message was to the point, and I told the spy that they were pathetic and I knew they were there, and could they leave my clock on the correct time - today my clock is correct.

I also told the spy to stop wasting their time and to look for the real terrorists and killers.

Do you think that all ATS members are checked out like this?

I would like to ask the following:

What activity have you been doing online for this alleged reply, for it has attracted a/or individual/s, then i assume your doing borderline activity that has attracted attention. It not uncommon and is done far more frequent than people are aware of.

If you search your comp. you will have an accurate account of outgoing packets therefore you could find the last known proxy server and from there it requires more savvy people to help you find the "alleged" person/s.


If it would be possible a part or full section of what was written within your draft and its reply would speed things along.


edit:
Simply re do what you have been doing and fire up another draft message, leave your pc switched and connected open relevant packet tracers and email software and record it all on an encrypted external drive through a filtered firewire cable, also attach a usb stick with low end encryption with similar draft content but relevant titles to your content. A word to you, if your so called draft is related to illegal porn activity or of that nature, then i suggest you contact your lawyer, for its only a matter of time.

peace.

reply to post by TheBorg


I typed a really annoyed message in drafts.

I told them to eff off, to look for real spies and killers, and to leave me alone, and to make my clock right - that is when my clock became right for the first time for three weeks.

reply to post by tristar


I have been doing nothing - that is why I asked ATS members if they are being checked out.

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
reply to post by tristar

 

I have been doing nothing - that is why I asked ATS members if they are being checked out.

If that is the case, then you need to change all passwords, if you are doing any sort of online banking YOU MUST CHANGE PASSWORDS and look at your banking activity to see if any small, very minor transaction have occurred if so then you should contact your local police department asap. Also update your firewall, if things persist as you say, you should record your computers activity and head to the local fbi branch as your comp could very well be a part of a bot network without sound dramatic.

reply to post by TheBorg


Here is what happened.

I was annoyed about my time always being an hour early. So I decided to send a message.

I typed a stern message into drafts, and I thought - maybe.

Sure enough, my clock is suddenly right.

reply to post by tristar


Hi tri,

If you tell me how, I will post the email I sent to the a-h.

Originally posted by catwhoknowsplusone
reply to post by tristar

 

Hi tri,

If you tell me how, I will post the email I sent to the a-h.

Simply send me a u2u message from within here with the content of the draft and received reply. The actual email is of no use since there are no outgoing packets recorded.

reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone



If you were using Outlook Express, clicking on your message in Drafts
will mark it as 'Read' as per the rule in 'Tools, Options..., Read,
Mark message read after displaying for (x) second(s)'. This has
nothing to do with an e-mail message being 'Sent' and 'Received' as
most people would understand those terms.

Similar settings will apply for other e-mail clients.


Your 'suspicious' problem of the system clock being out by one hour
is fairly common - try a Google search for:

Windows XP clock is wrong by one hour

and you'll see around 190,000 results, none of which are at all spooky.

By the way - I don't *know* that you are using Windows XP or Outlook
Express, because I'm not spying on you!

reply to post by Hefficide


this is off topic but, you appear much more knowledgeable than myself so---

have you heard of the "doublemyspeed.com"? i hear their commercials on the radio and it got me thinking about the OP and how easy it is to get into one's cpu.

are you familiar with how to "speed up" a cpu, kinda like taking a hotrod, throwing out every ounce of weight; door panels, carpet, radio, etc in order to make it lighter and faster?

reply to post by rebeldog



Looks like the classic scam - 'free' download and scan, followed
by expensive 'fixes' for problems you don't really have.

Keep your money and have a search for 'CCleaner' and try that one
out - it's free. (I'd grab the 'Slim' version from 'Other Builds'.)

reply to post by rebeldog


What Fabless said!

If you learn enough, the best way to keep things running fast on a daily basis are to clear browser history regularly, as well as keeping on schedule with things like defragmenting your hard drive, running regular malware scans, and knowing what processes are running on your machine.

If you look to the right of your clock and see more than just a few icons? Chances are you've got a lot of things in resident memory that you don't need to be running all of the time. Things like messengers, Skype, webcam suites, etc. can be closed to free up resources.

~Heff

I wonder if it works in real life too?

Like handwriting a letter,
not mailing it,

yet the message reaches some intended yet meddling consciousness.

reply to post by Fabless


Estimated sales place xp at 250.000.000 +- pc's around the world. Do you honestly believe an agency would not have an access point into that and consequently to updated systems who's foundation and education of the public on how to use a particular operating was left purely by chance and upto the Microsoft Corporation (B.G.).

Minor and seemingly non critical errors are a simple window into the world. (Oh yeah, here i go cryptic again for the cryptologists of ats, members and viewers)

reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone


I left a note for my spy cos every time I log on my computer the
Desktop files have moved :/

I contacted the police , but nothing happened.

I later realised that auto arrange desktop was ticked , so I quickly jumped
off a large building for posting crap on Internet

Get a grip of yourself for gods sake.

reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone

If I had known that I would be questioned as to having half a brain by a few men, I would never have posted this.

A woman should know her limits -

reply to post by tristar



I very nearly understood what you wrote there: Do some software
applications and even the operating systems have backdoors?

Sure they do! But we can see the traffic that comes and goes, and
the real threat are the Bad Guys who simply want your money. Any
wide-spread spying by the Agencies would have been exposed long ago,
and everyone would now be using a secure Open Source OS by default.

Windows XP is more likely to be sloppy than sneaky, I would think.

I know how to turn my computer on and off--so that establishes my expertise.

Having read this thread, I see nothing about whether she is on a network or not.
Could that be the case? It seems to me that at some place in Outlook's newtwork settings that drafts can be viewed by all or not.

What kind of sense would it made for a real spy to respond to a draft message aimed at them personally?

If somebody is bugging your computer, lady, it won't be Uncle. It is either either some fraud outfit or somebody that knows you and has had access to your computer..